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5HTP for depression

Nickatina said:
Eat turkey. Seriously. Add it to your diet. It contains tryptophan (sp?) which is what 5-htp is metabolized into. It is the most natural way of getting the chemical you want. It does make a lot of people drowsy, so try eating turkey a lot for supper, maybe a sandwich with whatever other meal you may be eating. When you buy the pills, they are made completely syntheticaly.
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turkey may be the most famous tryptophan containing food, but parmesan cheese has more than twice as much tryptophan. It also has a higher tryptophan/protein ratio :)
I believe elk meat has one of the highest, if not the absolute highest percent of tryptophan of any food. Although not everyone has access to fresh elk meat ;)
 
If your all going on about tryptophan, why dont you just buy tryptophan pills?
 
It goes the other way actually. Tryptophan --> 5-htp --> 5-ht (serotonin). If you think you're low on 5-ht, and want to take a supplement to top it up, then 5-htp is the way to go. A lot of tryptophan is lost in the conversion to 5-htp (in that it's used as a normal amino acid most of the time).

See my previous post for my opinion on taking pills for depression :)
 
@ Dave

So overall would you say 5htp was better or worse for you.

If you could turn back time would you not do it?
 
It was good for pre/post-loading, but that was about it. It didn't help enough with my depression to make it worthwhile, and while I was taking it I was convincing myself that I was doing something about my problems when I actually wasn't.

I'm not upset that I did it, but I'm annoyed that I did it for so long. If I knew then what I do now, I would go see a psychologist post-haste. Oh, and not take a fuckton of MDXX in a two-month period. My word recall still hasn't recovered :p
 
Yeh man I know what your saying, MD is the worst thing for depression I swear since I done it I havent been able to feel real happiness since.

Like I remember before I did it I used to get a rush down my spine when listening to music, I havent had that since I did MDMA (about 30-40 times)
 
OMFG its been 6weeks since ive been using 5htp, and i am taking 1 5htp upon waking and 1before bed.

I honestly havent felt this good in soooooooo long, my mind feels at ease for once and I actually dont have this cloud of doubt/fear/dread above my head anymore.

I wouldnt go far as saying I feel like I used to when I was a happy care free child but there is an enormous improvement in my mood. I just dont understand how a couple of weeks ago I was concemplating killing myself via heroin overdose.

Anyone else really benefited from using 5htp?

Best of all it feels natural and pure!
 
I did at first. Tolerance builds. Keep in mind that there is a risk of early hydrolysis of 5-htp in the bloodstream at higher doses (especially if there's a lot of Vit B6 floating around) that can cause heart problems down the road.
 
5htp most definitely works for me, as does l-tryptophan.

the thing with the heart problems due to B6 does worry me though - because Iuse B-complex quite regularly as I believe it to be helpful with energy levels and nutrient absorption. So I try not to take B6 too late in the day, and 5-htp mostly only at night. There is no way I'd stop using this even if it does cause some heart problem..... without it, I seem unable to keep my happiness levels up and I'd rather die a bit younger and live happily than be miserable and die old and miserable.

Regarding St. John's Wort... it may work as an MAOI... but if it does, it can't be a strong one... I have been using it at higher-than-recommended doses now for a few months, and when I use other drugs such as tryptamines or phenethylamines or even amphetamines, I have no problems whatsoever... but St John's Wort doesn't seemall too effective for my depressive detendencies. 5-HTP and/or L-tryptophan work WAY better... way way better. Post-MDMA and such they're spiritual lifesavers... yes, I'd go that far!
 
mootantmilkshake said:
I'm pretty sure that that is the stuff my Mum tried. We found it worked pretty well, I mean, it gave her a lot of motivation to get up and do things, which was half the problem most of the time. Only thing was, the effect didn't seem to last longer than a week or so.

I've been taken Ginko Biloba for around a year and I swear it is the best thing I have ever done. I wouldn't take anything else now.
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Part about mom..placebo,obviousuly
 
bighooter someone already mentioned earlier that senior members agreed eating foods containing tryptophan is MORE EFFECTIVE than 5htp.
 
I personally dont combine 5HPT with another Anti depressent. Risk of Seratonin storm is what i've read about as far as risks, but really in reality, thats not why i dont do it. I just figure stacking things that up your seratonin isnt nessecary. Stick to the AD your doc prescribed IMO.
 
delta_9 said:
^Do you mean serotonin syndrome? Or are you actually scared this guy will come to your house and fuck you up night? ;)
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storm, syndrome, same thing, both bad ;] but i dont want that guy to come over either. In conclusion. Dont mix 5HTP, with Anti Depressants, that guy may come. :p
 
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