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58 and trying to smoke heroin for first time

I like the heart.

Well, I've read about the other options and they are all out. I'd snort it, but it's sticky tar. Mixing it with water and then snorting it sounds like a bad swimming pool incident. No. Don't want that. And I'm sure as HELL not sticking it up my butt. No needles. No butt. No water in the nose. Next?
 
No worries, I'm around… this week. There is a space on bluelight to check that reads something like, " Keep me logged in ." I used to lose my writing also when I joined, then I checked the box and was ok. Not that it's your problem. Could be something entirely different.:)

I used to cut it and snort it, with lactose powder also …. there is a way, and it lasts longer than smoking, but with tar it's just easier to throw it on the foil and smoke it; although you lose a bit in the process when smoking.
 
I think smoking is your best bet if you perfect the art of chasing the dragon very little will be wasted. Be careful doing a whole gram is most likely too much for you it could make you sick. Don't set a amount to do just smoke it in bits and wait 5-10 minutes then smoke more if you feel the need to. This is why its hard to overdose on smoking heroin because your lungs only hold so much smoke and you can gauge how much your doing instead of just loading it into a needle and shooting it in one go or snorting it all up your nose. Smoking is by far the safest way to do heroin and also hits you faster than any other ROA even intravenous but doesn't have the same risks.
 
SMOKY- yeah, my other problem is I don't have any kids to teach me how to do all this, and there are none that I can borrow. That's how to get good on a computer, get a twelve year old.

You hint that there's a way . . . What do you mean? I'm pretty dense about this.
 
Smoking truly is, as it's a better harm reduction method…. as far as spreading disease… as the actual heroin isn't up the nose.

If you are going to insulffate it, I would just freeze it briefly... then break it up with spoon and crush it (some tar harder to do this … some easier and the strength varies and is not necessarily dependent upon begin hard/soft), with lactose powder. Once crushed and mixed up pour it into a sealed container (aspirin/vitamin bottle, whatever), add some clean nickels/dimes and shake it up. Voila!

(Something is going on with me, maybe Lyrica finally leaving my system I used from Heroin withdrawal few days back. Kinda scared, I hope I answered some questions… somewhat.)
 
Smoky-
I hate to think you're not feeling well. Do you know what you can do to alleviate the problem? But then it's probably just a matter of time. Hour by hour, then minute by minute.

Keep me posted.
 
Thank you Aurelia ….

Had a little episode last night… I'm doing okay now. I'm not going to take any more withdrawal meds and see how it goes. I think the Lyrica causes some rebound mania… At least for me… No more! :)
 
aloha aurelia i wanted to throw my 2 cents in and say i have been put on suboxone for pain ! It really did not help the pain that much but it was better then nothing; additionally it has made my tolerance to oxy really high. i recently switched back to oxy and find that its taking 2 to 3 times the amount to kill the pain. if you do decide to go with subs i i have to recommend taking 2mg or less a day. less is more ! I see you are trying BTH with no pain relief or "feeling" I personally have never done H but from what i have read on here its better not to go down that rabbit hole, especially if your concerned about the price. people that try it and like it find many ways to get more H. there is one creative thing i have noticed about H is the insane ways to obtain more H. it seems in the moment of WD most will do anything to have one more go. If your looking for pain relief it seems that H will only bring more pain and in various formats. its not worth it. i hope you find some or all of this helpful. Aloha from Hawaii :)
 
Hi silas

This will be the third post I've sent you. Either I'm cursed or this site loses posts a lot.

thank you for your care. It's really a fine thing when people who have never met care about each other.

sub sounds like a good thing to avoid. I take as few oxy a day as I can thus keeping my tolerance in check.

I want to see if h kills all my body pain, and to get that feeling everybody raves about. Then that'll be it. I've gotten the impression from this site that it's not as good a painkiller as oxy. What does your pain stem from?
 
Prudentpartygirl said:
Sometimes pain can come from underuse of weak muscles/overuse of dominant ones... Causing imbalance, joint pain, etc. when corrective exercise is used - gently and proactively at first - it helps to correct the muscular/joint imbalances, thus alleviating the pain.

This is may not be your situation, but I've dealt with many people that has been helped by this. It's always worth a try:)

Outside of exercising there's physical therapy, alternative pain meds from what u have already tried while u medically fix the issue, etc.

i know that seems like I'm trying to give a cut and dry answer, and I also realize that sometimes it's NOT so cut and dry. I just wanted to share what I've experienced. I hope some of this helps!
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Thank you!
 
Aurelia said:
Hello~

My name is Aurelia and I just smoked some very black heroin for the first time in my life. I am 58 years old.

I am prescribed five 30 mg oxys a day, I take usually three or four. I've been on it for about six years. I have been disabled for six years.

I have a great deal of pain from several herniated discs, arthritis throughout my whole spine (DDD), Foraminal stenosis, a torn rotator cuff tendon after two unsuccessful surgeries, very arthritic knees, and an overlying body pain that started when I was 32.

The reason I tried heroin today was that oxycodone will make you over sensitive to painful stimuli, and even make things that normally wouldn't really hurt, painful. My pain level is so high now that I want to get away from the oxy, but it's the only thing that works for the serious pain that I have from my broken body. I'm trying to find a serious pain reliever that doesn't have that side effect. Suboxone might work, but I haven't tried it yet.

We got half a gram of black and did the Chase the Dragon method of smoking it. Nothing happened, and boy is it horrible tasting! I am doing only a little at a time to see what works. There's still some left, so I'll have it as well.

I've never been addicted to anything in my life except my husband of twenty four years, who is now in his eighth year of metastasized prostate cancer. He has a pain medicine for cancer patients called Fentora, a fizzy that goes between cheek and gum and gets rid of all pain instantly. One 600mcg is about the same as fifty mg of oxy. I can't get those because though my pain is worse than his, I don't have cancer, so I don't count. My pain doc won't give me any more oxycodone because the DEA is all over the doctors here, looking for over prescribers. So I keep my tolerance down and only take all five in a day if I have a lot to do.

I have a huge aversion to needles so shooting it is out of the question.

Now that you know me, I'll post a topic about this situation with a bunch of questions.


Thank you for reading this.
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Have you tried Fentanyl patches for pain relief? It´s way stronger than heroin and a lot safer to use.
There are patches as from 25 mcg to over 130 mcg (I guess mcg stands for microgram).
It has been proved to help those with chronic severe pain.
When I had surgery to implant metal in my knee, I had that prescribed to me when morphine was not working at all, not even in greater dosages. Talk to your doctor about that.
Heroin might help you now, but it´s going to be a living nightmare for you in the near future, if you continue.
Good luck!
 
Aurelia said:
Hi Prudent~

Ive been through all manner of physical therapy for my knees first then my shoulder, to no avail. I will be starting it again to strengthen the muscles in my back; I already know how to do that from working in health clubs, but they have the machines I need.

And any exercise I involve myself with is very painful and then after sitting for a while, as in driving home, when I stand up again, it's just astounding misery. I've been trying to walk, but it's been hotter than blazes here and I'm not a morning person. I did, however, recently experience a short episode of happiness, a feeling of organization, and motivation, all things I lack because of pain and depression. I attribute it to the short time that I was feeling good enough to walk three or four times a week. Alas, it went away because I've not been walking.

I can hear you asking about a swimming pool. That's out. I can't tolerate the painful shock of the water. I know there are places where the water is warm, but even getting in and out of the shower is a shock. This is caused by the oxycodone making me over-sensitive to just about any stimuli, but again, it's the only thing that works for the pain. I am just up the creek without a paddle.

I appreciate your concern, and am very happy you wrote. Thank you so much. I hope to hear from you more.

Oh and I'm on Cymbalta and Abilify for depression, and the Cymbalta is supposed to kill pain. It's kept the suicidal ideation at bay, but did nothing for the pain.

I watched a thing on Natl Geographic tv about stress. I believe stress is the biggest cause of my problems, besides the arthritis. My husband, you see, is going on eight years with terminal prostate cancer and it's getting worse. We didn't have life insurance when he was diagnosed, but he did everything he could to get it about two years ago. I'll have a little money when he goes, but I'll also have 24 years worth of detritus accumulated from a very wonderful marriage. I have no friends or family if I need help; I'm going to be on my own. As a health club owner, you'd be interested in that show. It was or is, on netflix and is called something like Stress: the silent killer. You and everybody out there who's reading this and is in pain and overwhelming depression really ought to watch it. You could offer your clients special courses in relaxation, something that eludes me.

Why are you on thus site, if I may ask?
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First, to answer your question of why I'm here... I'm here because I have a somewhat (and I say somewhat only because it isn't a daily thing... nor is it something I crave or think about when not in a "trigger" situation) cocaine habit (habit, because when I drink - the "trigger" - I go directly to cocaine use... and when I start, I CANNOT seem to stop. It's gotten worse as time has gone on. I have always known about BL from google searches... searching for everything from "cocaine addiction" to "what is normal or acceptable cocaine use" to "how to come down" or "is alcohol safe with cocaine". Basically all searches involving "cocaine". Quotes are for emphasis if you haven't figured out lol ;-)

Now to your pain and exercise... you say there was a brief relief from pain when you were walking. Obviously walking seems to have helped. Have you thought about hiring someone to facilitate exercise and foster your ability to do so? I don't mean to say exercise is the only way, but upon reading that it seemed to help, I wonder why that is no longer an option...
 
WAY over my head, Captain. Sorry. Thank you for your patience.

Read in Drug Discussion about my heroin experiment. It's pretty odd.

And I had sent you a pm about reading your stuff only to just now learn we greens can't send them. So I read part of it but I had sort of a hard time following it, then I lost the two other links. I thought they were in blogs, but can't find them. Maybe you can send them again?
 
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