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5-MeO-MIPT - first time - Wierd, but very cool, 2-phase trip!

Skrilla

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Allright, I'll start this by saying that I never write trip reports, I'm not good at writing them, and I don't like doing it.

But, since there's so few published on this compound, I felt obligated to write this one up. So I'll give it my best. This is my first trip report that I've actually posted, so bear with me.

Anyway, the compound of course is 5-MeO-MiPT. My dosage - 6mg, followed by another 6mg an hour later.

It took about an hour to come on after the first dose, but when it did - I felt very sure that I hadn't taken enough, and that another dose was most definitely necessary, so I took another 6mg. I've heard that wanting to redose is somewhat common with this chemical, and I definitely agree. However, I wouldn't find it "addictive", in that I don't think I'd want to do it all that often.

Qualitatively, I would have to strongly agree with the reports that have described it as a "tryptamine-roll". But, to add my own little bit of descriptiveness to it, I'll say that it initally reminded me of a low dose of a benzodiazapine. I say this because it made my face feel "softer". Sorry, that's the only way I can describe it - that's what benzo's do to me, and that's what this did. I found music appreciation to be greatly enhanced, and also a definite enhancement of emotions. Listening to my favorite song, Landslide by Stevie Nicks, actually brought tears to my eyes. However this is a very emotional song for me anyway, so I don't know how much of it was the drug... but the song DOESN'T normally bring tears to my eyes.

It seemed to pretty much plateau after about an hour and a half, to a very comfortable "something". That "something" is very hard to describe. I would say it reminded me of a low dose of MDMA, with it's body-buzz, and tactile enhancement. But it lacked the "fucked-upness" that usually comes with a full on MDMA "roll".

Visually - I was actually kind of surprised. I've heard some say that this compound has absolutely no visual component at all - I disagree. I am now an hour and 40 minutes into the experience, and as I look around my room, it occasionally looks kind of like there's smoke everywhere, or looking off at the wall I see a "haze" drifting by. I mean the visuals are most definitely NOT the main attraction here - they're suttle, but they do exist. There's definitely some color enhancement as well. I keep looking back at that same wall where I saw the "haze" earlier, and now it's even stranger - when I stare at it, something moves, very slightly shifting, just enough to make me stare at it more. This is quite hard to describe, but this compound is definitely doing more visually than I had expected. Almost no trails when I wave my hand across my field of vision, however (my standard "am I tripping?" test).

Now back to the body high. This drug almost teases you - I mean it's quite comfortable and pleasant, but you just wish it would get a *little* stronger, more overwhelming, or something. But it doesn't. I think this is exactly why people have felt compelled to redose so frequently. I will most likely explore this one further, but I have a feeling that higher dosages aren't going to bring the desired "stronger" or more overwhelming effects. But even if they don't - I still rather like this chemical. It's very relaxing, comfortable, and thoroughly enjoyable. I think this would be a nice drug for social settings, as it really isn't even like tripping at all - I would sooner call it a roll than I would a trip. Although it is most definitely niether one, it has components of both.

I think whoever it was that described this as a "tryptamine-roll" put it very well, that's exactly what it is.

There is definitley some time distortion going on though... The last half-hour seemed like well over an hour. It is now exactly 2 hours after I took my first dose. I'm going to go lay back on the couch, relax, and have a cigarette...

Wow, that was pretty impressive. I laid back on the couch and just relaxed, and when I did, my jaw started rapidly shaking like it used to when I did MDMA. It was quite pleasant... that one one of my favorite parts about MDMA, how it would make my jaw shake with energy as waves of euphoria ran through me. Now this wasn't near as strong as MDMA, but it VERY MUCH remided me of it, and I did get waves of something running through me...
As I was doing this, my eyes were closed - but things got very interesting when I opened my eyes. Right after I opened my eyes, I saw LOTS of color on the ceiling, like a million little color dots floating above me. They quickly vanished, but the ceiling still looked REAL fuckin' wierd.

I'm now at the two and a half hour point, I'm still at the plateau - but I feel it is very gradually going to drop off from here - at least the body part. It's almost as if the "roll" part is dying off, but the trippiness is still here, and possibly stronger. The ceiling looks even wierder than it did before, and so do other things. Looking at the ceiling, it almost reminds me of how it looked when I insufflated DMT - but few have done that, so few would know exactly what I'm talking about. I recall one trip report I read that said something like, at this point "it got wierd, like Ayahuasca wierd". I now know exactly what he was talking about. It's as if the body roll ends, and the trip begins. The ceiling looks *real* wierd. It reminds me so much of what the ceiling looked like when I insufflated DMT - VERY colorful, but you'd really have to try it to know what I'm talking about. The body buzz is almost totally gone, no more jaw shaking whatsoever.

I don't want to make this report too much longer, as it's long enough already, so I'll pretty much finish it off now. I have a feeling the rest of the experience is going to be the wierd DMT like visual effects (which are VERY cool by the way) probably trailing off after a while...

All in all, I find this to be a VERY interesting compound - I wasn't sure if I would be able to say this, until I got into the very distictly different "second phase" of the trip, which I found extremely interesting, and strikingly similiar to insufflated DMT.

I am definitely going to be exploring this one further...
 
Finally a report on this one that spawns some personal interest in me. I was kind of turned off by the redosing effect that it seems to have, but it sounds like you may have figured out where that stems from. Its starting to sound a little more promising as long as you don't try to make it into what it won't be. Thanks for the good report.
 
I was kind of turned off by the redosing effect that it seems to have, but it sounds like you may have figured out where that stems from. Its starting to sound a little more promising as long as you don't try to make it into what it won't be

You put it EXACTLY right - as long as you don't try to make it into what it won't be - I don't think you'll be let down at all.
I think those that have redosed so frequently were trying to "roll harder" like you do if you haven't taken enough MDMA - but I decided to just be happy and enjoy what I was experiencing, and I thoroughly did so.

Just appreciate what it has to offer, enjoy the "tryptamine roll" while it lasts, because it drops off rather quickly and turns into the "wierd" part - which is ALSO very enjoyable, just in an entirely different way.

This is one of the most DISTINCT "2-Phase" drugs I've ever encountered, in that there's a definite rolling like part, and then it entirely switches over to the trippy part.
 
Nice report.. It wasn't bad at all.

Skrilla said:
This is one of the most DISTINCT "2-Phase" drugs I've ever encountered, in that there's a definite rolling like part, and then it entirely switches over to the trippy part.

AMT does the same, I love it.. :)
 
I'd have to agree that this is a two-phase drug, but for me, it definitely had the "must redose" effect and I ended up taking a lot more than I planned.

Things get really weird after a few hours, with disconnected visuals that remind me of anti-cholinergics like Benadryl and Marezine, without the edge that comes with those substances.

The visual intensity of this drug is astounding, at least at the level that I took, but, as Skrilla stated, it starts as a roll with tryptamine-type alerts and then fully progresses into something quite odd.

The only other substances that I can think of that have this two-phase effect are AMT and 4-AcO-MiPT. I wonder if MiPT would have this effect as well?

Anyway, nice trip report Skrilla, this is definitely a worthwhile chemical.

I tried it with 4-AcO-MiPT and I definitely do not recommend it, they don't play well together, and I experienced a vast amount of physical distress and visual hallucinations still going now (about 1 1/2 to 2 weeks later). I think the magic of this compound lies in using it by itself. It is definitely a complete psychedelic on its own.
 
it definitely had the "must redose" effect and I ended up taking a lot more than I planned.

LOL, I had a feeling you'd take it all the same night :)

I'm definitely going to explore that dose next time I try this compound... I had a feeling something very wierd could come of higher doses, as wierd as it was at 12mg!
 
MagickalKat777 said:
Things get really weird after a few hours, with disconnected visuals that remind me of anti-cholinergics like Benadryl and Marezine, without the edge that comes with those substances.

The visual intensity of this drug is astounding, at least at the level that I took, but, as Skrilla stated, it starts as a roll with tryptamine-type alerts and then fully progresses into something quite odd.

The only other substances that I can think of that have this two-phase effect are AMT and 4-AcO-MiPT. I wonder if MiPT would have this effect as well?

I've never tried the anti-cholinergics, but 5-meo-mipt has given me one of the few true hallucinations that I've ever had, I looked over and saw this girl sitting on a couch, where the entertainent stand is. It was a fleeting image, but happened none the less.

I also agree with your visual observations. Last weekend I spent the first, "rolly," part laying down in complete darkness just enjoying music. Then as I felt the trippy stage setting in I got up and turned on the lights. WOW... I'm starting to really like this two stage effect, the only other one that has this effect for me is 4-aco-dipt.
 
5-meo-mipt has given me one of the few true hallucinations that I've ever had

Wow, you guys are making me really want to explore this one further. MDMA is the only thing I've had TRUE hallucinations on (several times).

From my small dose, I can definitely believe true hallucination could be had with this one at higher doses - it's just THAT wierd.
 
I had a few true hallucinations myself, but I wouldn't call them fun, lol

To me, there's not much more amazing than a full-scale, TRUE hallucination. Bewilders the mind!
 
This one continues to amaze me everytime I try it. Thanks again Skrilla for giving such an accurate depiction of what it does that it got me curious enough to try it. This is definatly becoming one of my favorites.

I'm actually starting to become more of a fan of the after trip. Its really a unique trip if you take a fairly substantial dose to begin with.
 
the FOxy i got, gave the same effects, only it made me feel like i was BURNING UP most of the time, i took 3 showers in a 5 hour period cause of it LOL,,

other then that, GREAT post !
 
I'm actually starting to become more of a fan of the after trip. Its really a unique trip if you take a fairly substantial dose to begin with.


I definitely agree - I recently took a higher dose (~26mg). This time I actually fell asleep during the "rolling" part, and when I woke up I felt REAL strange, and soon started into the second "trip" phase. It was quite interesting...
 
No, 5-MeO-DIPT is "foxy", 5-MeO-MIPT is something else..


I don't think he was saying foxy was 5-Meo-Mipt, I think he was saying that the foxy he got gave similiar effects to 5-Meo-Mipt, although I could be wrong.
 
Well, people having similar effects from both doesn't surprise me, since they are related, other than body load. 5-MeO-DiPT has a horrible body load.
 
MagickalKat777 said:
I wonder if MiPT would have this effect as well?


MiPT had only one "phase" for me at 24mg orally...boring. It comes on in an hour. I was bored for a good 4 hours or so, and slowly came down over the evening. A full report is at erowid if anyone is interested.

While I have yet to try vaporizing MiPT (which I plan to do), orally I was pretty bored. And I never dreamed one could be bored in a psychedelic. There was a slightly interesting introspective quality to it. I think (with oral dosing anyway) that this one might be good at low levels (10mg to 15mg) in a creative group session (say a band working on some songs and deciding on how they want the songs to be mixed) or perhaps for a group of intellectuals to debate/discuss the hot topic of the day. But unless the key with MiPT is rapid introduction into the BBB (by smoking or IV injection), I really think this one is a dud. I had no negative effects, and I've nothing against trying it again but all in all it was pretty boring.

As for 5-MeO-MiPT, I've not tried it yet but it sounds best to me when vaporized going by TIHKAL. I wish I knew why all the MiPT commercially available is the base, which all of the 5-MeO-MiPT comercially available is the hcl salt. I've heard a few folks say the hcl of 5-MeO-MiPT vaporized just fine, but with a much higher BP obviously the base would be ideal for smoking. I wish it was commercially released that way.
 
morninggloryseed said:
MiPT had only one "phase" for me at 24mg orally...boring.

Are you sure this is an adequate dose? I thought people were testing this in the 30mg to 50mg range, and some were getting some interesting effects ( which of course they described as "shroom-like"... 8) )...

Anyway the effects of 5-meo-MiPT in this report sound very fascinating. Hopefully it will encourage others to try it and write about it so I don't have to be the lab rat ;)
 
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