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5-meo-MiPT - First Time - Mmmm research

kitchkinet

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5-meo-MiPT-first time-mmmm research

me and a friend of mine got a quarter gram of the stuff.

unfortunately we have no milligram scale so we had to improvise. we dissolved the 250mg in 25ml of water. Nott all of it dissolved even though it was a very small amount of powder (about 3 matchsticks bundled up together)

I was the first to dose. I took .5ml under the tongue and waited. meanwhile my friend was putting the rest on sugar cubes with half a milliliter each. It was September 20th and Hempfest was going on in Boston so after I dosed we headed out.

In the car on the way to the train station I started getting hot flashes accross my chest and my concentration 'changed'. I knew I felt something but some one with little experience probably would have written it off as placebo.

When we got to the parking lot I took another sugar cube and my friend took 2. This was about 40 minutes after my first dose and I was definately beginning to feel it. The come up felt a lot like mushrooms, very wavy and natural. We went out to an open field and smoked a joint. I was beginning to feel really restless and began to wander. The field reminded me of an African savannah and I began to 'sneak' accross it just for the hell of it.

We got on the train and I was feeling it pretty well. There was a marked seperation of consciousness, my thoughts lost their first person element. Also my concentraion was such that I had one internal train of thought that seemed to be completely independent of the outside world.

The train was hot and I felt very uncomfotable, boxed in. I also felt like discussing the chemical with friends for the whole ride into boston but couldn't because of the normal people.

We arrived and I was pretty confused, we had to ask for directions to get to the commons even though we had taken the route before and it was only a block away.

I was quite capable of interaction at this point and my friends who took it seemed to be acting normal although they also had the same concentration shift as I described.

I found myself thinking a LOT about the nature of the chemical. We got to the commons right at 4:20 and sparked a big joint. As we were finishing it I ate another sugar cube. The high was really comfortable, relaxed not unlike benzos with more of a mind fuck. I found myself wanting to take more every so often so I continued to redose 1 cube at a time every hour or so.

I had no visuals whatsoever and in fact this didn't feel like a 'trip', more of a sedative though I didn't feel tired at any point during the experience. My face felt a bit heavy and I was still very hot. I'm sure it would be very comfortable cuddling.

We returned to my town after several hours as it was getting dark. By this time I had taken about 5 sugar cubes over the course of 4 hours or so. I was still in a relaxed introspective place as we walked around a golf course smoking bowls, though I was noticably coming down.

We were out of cubes by this time but we still had the bottle left with some water and a good deal of powder at the bottom. I took .75ml of this expecting no results because of tolerance.

It only took about 15 minutes for this dose to set in and it was much more vissually active (though we've hypothesized that the added visuals were due to the darkness since people who only took 8mg or so also got visuals at night).

I was pretty happy with this dose but when i started to come down I was fiending for more. (each plateau lasted about 2 hours before I began coming down). I was pretty messed up at this point, my speech was slurred and my eyes had sunk about half an inch into my skull.

I put the eye dropper in the bottle and drew up 1ml of water with a noticable amount of powder floating undissolved in it. Not really thinking much about it I squirted that under my tongue and waited.

soon I was tripping very VERY hard, generic psychadelic visuals but they were very powerful (I almost lost touch with reality for a while and the cat warped time)

I was convinced I would die but I wasn't scared. I easily came to terms with my mortality and felt that in this state I was prepared for the here after. During this time me and my friends were joking about dieing like it was nothing.

there was almost no body load which I was impressed with, except that my face felt some what twisted and heavy. as I was coming down I was finally satisfied that I didn't want any more.

synopsis: you'll spend a LOT of time thinking/talking about the drug. It's an enjoyable high and it's pretty hard to get freaked out.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, I feel like I've just scratched the surface in this report (BTW this is my first trip report so be gentle)
 
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"unfortunately we have no milligram scale so we had to improvise. we dissolved the 250mg in 25ml of water. Nott all of it dissolved even though it was a very small amount of powder"

yeah okay, you did right, if you don't have a scale, dissolve it. you should have added some heat to the solution if it didn't all dissolve though.

"By this time I had taken about 5 sugar cubes over the course of 4 hours or so"

do you even know what the dosage range is?? if you have 250 mg 5 meo mipt and you dissolved it in 25 ml then it should be 25 mg per 1 ml. a sugarcube contained 0.5 ml and you ate 5 sugar cubes. that would have been 62.5 mg of 5 meo mipt. prior to this you had 0.5 ml, so that's 12.5 mg + 62.5 = 75 mg. later you added 0.75 ml and another 1 ml so that would have been: 75 + ~17 + 25 = 117 mg of meo mipt. 8o didn't experience any visuals huh?? no body load either... eeuh, it's pretty hard to freak out?? haha, i think you're the man!! i know i can't handle such a thing. but somewhere i still think you just forgot to add another zero to the 25 ml. i guess it should have been 250 ml, right? if it isn't that, what else could it be... i certainly don't know in that case but still great to see you had a good time!! enjoyed reading it!!

also edit ur title :)
 
hahahaha, fuck yeah, i see...:\ didn't intend to make such a huge miscalculation, but hell i'm stoned, i don't even care right now=D . but still, if i'm right this time (hehe), it should have been 5 mg per sugarcube, that still is very much if you took 5 of them with another couple of good hits. that would've floored me i think. sorry for the mistake there;)
 
Near as I can tell, there was about 45 mg consumed during this trip report. That is definately a lot of 5-meo-mipt.

I'm pretty interested in this stuff, it seems like a nice, chill experience, even at high doses.
yeah okay, you did right, if you don't have a scale, dissolve it. you should have added some heat to the solution if it didn't all dissolve though.
Sure, heating it up would allow more solution to dissolve in the liquid, but wouldn't it just fall out of solution again once it cools? (Unless it becomes supersaturated....) Someone who knows a little about chemistry please correct me if I'm wrong.

Does anyone else have experience dissolving this stuff in distilled water?
 
Hmmm, I think I'll stick to 4 mg 5-MeO-MiPT orally when I get around to trying this one. That dose seems to work for most people. Personally I think the reckless dosing of this drug you demonstrated in this thread is something you should take more seriously. Thank god I have an accurate scale.
 
ehh, I'm pretty sure there are plateaus to the drug, 4mg seems to get most people high, but 12mg is completely different and 20mg is even more different from that.

btw I wouldn't normally be so reckless I just wasn't thinking straight at the time and the fact that the powder in the water was pure 5-meo didn't really register with me.
 
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you kitchkinet (I'd make this post regardless of who started this thread), but this is a prime example of why I really don't think psychedelics should ever be legal in the sense that you can go into Walgreens and buy them. I'm not saying responsible adults should be limited in any way from what they put in their body. I don't think that at all. But I think there needs to be some regulation and control on what is distributed. This uncontroled sale of psychedelics on the internet by these fly-by-night vendors is causing more problems than good I think.

>btw I wouldn't normally be so reckless I just wasn't thinking straight at
>the time and the fact that the powder in the water was pure 5-meo didn't
>really register with me.


Again not to pick on you, but that's a flimsy excuse. What in the hell did you think you were drinking? The bitter taste and the fact that you were tripping not give away the fact that your water had 5-MeO-MiPT in it? If you can't keep your shit straight, then, well....you shouldn't be using potent psychedelics like 5-MeO-MiPT. These things are not toys and should be treated with a certain amount of respect and caution, which you obviously did not demonstrate.

I'm glad you did not wind up in the hospital but I fear with 5-MeO-MiPT (on account of it extreme potency) it's only a matter of time before someone else does. And I really don't mean to pick on you kitchkinet, I am picking on your behavior and irresponsibility that you demonstrated here.

Please don't be so foolish in the future with psychedelics. You got away ok this time, but not every overdose ends on a good note. Consider yourself lucky.
 
I knew there was 5-meo in the water, I just assumed that the fluid was homogenous so I would just be taking another 8mg booster dose. I had been on the chem for about 10 hours at that point and I was pretty comfortable in the 12-15mg range.

anyway, I know I was stupid and reckless and next time we'll figure out a better way to measure doses and I'll have a sober friend put a cap on how much we take.
 
(with 6 mg, orally) "Rapid development to 45 minutes, some shakes, uneven handwriting, and hints of time slowing. Extremely erotic. Full plateau at a +3, and you took so damn much right? blowmonkey did some calculating up there, I guess that adds up, damn, you are hardcore, but please don`t do that to yourself again. we`d like to keep the hardcore people alive, I think they`re the most fun.
 
Since mgs addressed the safety issues and kitchkinet agreed with him, I won't go near that, besides saying PEOPLE.. Don't try 45mg just coz of this report! Everyone is different and you should start off as low as possible for such a new and potent drug.

Thanks for the report man, just take care!
 
Hmm, sometimes when I heat the solution to get more into it, it`ll stay in there even after it cools off again, but otherwise, why not just get it into solution and heat it up before taking your dose? that way all will dissolve, and even if it goes back to crystals, you`ll know that the dose you measured is the dose you`ll get.
 
I don't think it's good for the chemical to be heating and cooling it every time you want to measure it. I had tons of problems trying to get 5-meo-mipt into solution, and finally i just bought a tanita 1210 on ebay. It was a great move.
 
Anomie said:
finally i just bought a tanita 1210 on ebay. It was a great move.

I have the same scale and I don't think it is very good for 5-MeO-MiPT though. A dose is 2 to 6 mg. The scale is accurate to only 2 mg. You are never gonna get an accurate measurement of a chemical that potent if you weigh out one dose with this scale.

I have the same problem...I can't wait to sample 5-MeO-MiPT but I won't use my scale to weigh a single dose because I want it to be accurate, and the fact that so many have problems getting it into solution has kept me from trying it. I am hunting for a friend with a more accurate scale for this one.
 
Waaaaaaaaait a minute? Ok, i'll admit, i'm stoned, really stoned, on this ("rare") hydroponic nice pretty cannabus that is for some reason much more stimulating than any marijuana i've ever smoked - whatever this is its different, first, stimulating, motivating, psychedelic, then, nice and then an hour or so later, sedating/relaxing... Anyway, are you all going by the "bible" Tihkal? Hey I think Shulgin is the shit, oh yes, what a great man, but... -

(i think a teacher once told me on a rare attentive school moment using but first in a sentence is wrong..but i still wanted to) I think as we most know, sometimes shulgin's range for a dose, isn't always accruate for everyone.

I have had some 5-meo-mipt for a while now. My scale isn't near 2mg. This is a chem I just "pour a 'lil on the table and lick it. When we smoke it, which is my preferred way, we just "pour a 'lil or even a lil lil more into a small bowl made of stone. Tip it down so when it melts it wont pour anywhere but on the stone. Its one of those chems where, 4mg gives you a "buzz", 20mg might be a 'lil psychedelic, maybe 40mg would be like ...smoking it :) I think i was unhappy with the licked off the table oral dosages that when i smoked it and was blown away, i preferred that, and i've smoked it while on 2c-i, Iprocin.. Seems to be a great way to end a trip or spice up a weak trip on another substance.

This stuff seems, well, like whatever dosages Shulgin tried, maybe they got bored and went on to new chemicals.. never tried more than 12mg (or whatever it says in Tihkal). Since I didnt experience any real side effects at all on oral doses..it had really, just a nice body buzz and just the weird thinking - but barely. I would think larger oral doses would be fun, since at least to me there was never any physical effects i've ever had on this stuff.

Now i'm not saying just do what i did - don't. Actually, you dont know if i used a friends scale before hand and tested out doses like this with a super accurate scale (i'm not telling, haha), so if you have a 1mg/less scale available, sure, i'd say starting with 6-12mg and going up little by little, even if you reach 30mg 40mg whatever, and you dont have side effects, why not - if you don't mind being guinea pigs and of course suffer the consequences, just as shulgin did with the however many 200 or whatever drugs he invented :) He's old, he's sure not dead yet either, and seems to be pretty active. But, of course, maybe out of all the stuff he's tried, maybe, by chance, 5-meo-mipt could be all of a sudden deadly over 41mg or something, hey i suppose it COULD happen...

Thats my opinion, i just think most of you were taking what was in Tihkal too seriously, i sure dont see its "potency".. sure its active at 2mg or whatever. But maybe it takes 10-15 times that to get psychedelic. Also IF you dont get bad side effects, what would be the reason to stop increasing dose?

Alright there's my stoned rant, but thats mostly my experience with this one. =D
 
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Of course, everything i said above was all from a dream, none of it real - i forgot to add that. Also, drugs 'r bad man, the teacher told me that. So don't do anything i said in this dream.

"Man, this is the best weed man" - some guy said that to me today, wierd man.

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^^^

Hey now, you shouldn't assume i just did that after first getting the chem.

What if I had already played around with dosages from 2mg to 30mg orally/smoked too! (measured on a GOOD scale that unfortunately isn't mine hehe) and knew what the effects were and what size a "lil on the table" could be around. So, after playing around with this particular chem, i realised, its one that "I" feel ok to just pour a 'lil on whatever. For ME, its one of "those" easy chemical toys. Just me now, well ok, and all my friends who used it too - but of course do not do as i do before you first try measured amounts -- not saying its such a great chemical or anything (i do like smoking it though). For "ME" and my friends, it sure is not what I would call "potent", just from our experience, from the small amount i got from one source.
 
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