5-MeO-MiPT - 3rd time.

[Abrecan]

I have considerable experience with shrooms, lsd, 1p-lsd, and 25I-NBOMe as reference. Years of psychedelic experiences.

I have used this particular substance exactly two times before the trip I'm going to go into detail about in a moment. The first time, I did 4mg orally, the second time, 8 mg orally. The 4mg experience was very mild, but pleasant. Walking felt nice, talking even better. The second experience was considerably stronger, however, not visual besides what I can only describe as looking at the world through a fishbowl. Both times the substance kicked in quickly. Roughly 15 minutes before effects became noticeable. I thought of this at that point as a kind of mild MDMA, there were no real psychedelic affects to it. I decided to obtain a batch of it before completely writing it off, which leads us to my report.




7:32 PM.
Me and my SO each consumed 12mg of substance, dissolved in solution. We washed it down with juice to kill the rather unpleasant flavour. We decided to watch TV while waiting for it to kick in.

8:30~PM.
Neither me, nor my partner felt anything but mild anxiety. We assumed that the solution (which was temporarily exposed to extreme heat) must have deteriorated in quality, as such, we dosed another 12mg each to see if we could at least have a mild experience from the substance.

8:40~PM.
We quickly realized that this was in fact not necessary at all. We started coming up rather quickly after the re-dose. My anxiety faded as the peak came, hers worsened. Attempts to talk her down were quite difficult, as maintaining speech, and proper breathing at the same time were quite hard. I decided to put on music, as we both felt this was about to get very intense.

8:50~PM.
Almost instantly it went from that light MDMA feeling from the last two times to crazy intense visuals, enhanced kinesthetic sensations almost twice that of the strongest MDMA high I've experienced, and a giant appreciation for music. By almost instantly, I mean within less than a minute, I've never been hit this hard, or suddenly, by anything before. My mind was still sharp when I wanted it to be, although it was easy to kind of blank out my mind, and just ride the experience. At this point, I stopped checking the time for quite a while though, and my time perception was destroyed.

After 8:50PM, Before 11:00PM.
As we couldn't really do much in our new-found state, we just laid there, listening to music for a while. 15ish minutes judging by how many songs we listened to. We kind of felt sobered up after this time, but we figured it was the trip coming and going in waves as some users have reported. She was having some mild anxiety still, so we decided to have a shower before we started tripping again. What we thought would calm us some made the trip far more intense. My shower is rather large, and the sides of it are tiled with colour swirls. This proved to intensify hallucinations, and with them, psychedelic thoughts. The anxiety had faded completely though, and it was actually a very enjoyable experience. The visuals were as strong as LSD, but similar to mushrooms hallucination style if that makes sense to you all. Even with my intense trip, my partner was noticeably considerably higher than me. She couldn't even describe the visuals to me afterwards. She was seeing colours that aren't even real, and she described the world as "melting" around her. The patters swirling through my tiles seemed like extravagant pieces of art to me, I came to a realization that there is so much beauty in everyday things if you look for it, not everything is as boring, and mundane as at first glance.

The shower was probably one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had on hallucinogens, words really can't do it justice. The water was the perfect temperature, and I could distinctly feel every drop of water hitting me (or at least I thought I could). The warmth, and the water really did a lot to brighten my mood, I was ecstatic after this, as was my partner. We decided to head to our bedroom again when the end of a wave came so we didn't end up stuck in a cold shower. When we got into bed, the blanket rubbing against our bodies put both of us into a very sensual mood. We got touchy-feely, and ended up making love. It was such a passionate, easy session. The substance was easy to achieve erection, and orgasm on. By the end of it, I was seeing a rainbow aura around everything, and felt so much love for her. I don't often verbally express my feelings, but we sat there and talked about our love for one another for probably 45 minutes. It was nice to be able to express myself so easily, and it most definitely brought us closer together.

11:00~PM.
It was shortly after 11 when we were done talking, and we were noticeably coming down at this point. Each wave brought us less, and less of the high back. We both found ourselves a little bit sad that it was going away, but had no real urge to does again either. We decided to eat some food, quite delicious.

12:00~AM.
My SO decided she wanted to sleep, I decided I wanted to go look at some of the things in our home, and just observe their beauty, and reflect on the evening/night. I was still having mild visuals, but no other effects. I had mild gastro intestinal pressure, but it didn't really bother me.

2:00~AM.
Visuals gone, went to bed. Great difficulty sleeping.

8:00AM.
Alarm went off, me and my SO got up with no difficulty. Both woke up feeling pretty great. No hangover, general warm glow for the rest of the day.



I definitely found nothing special about this in low doses, but high doses were quite enjoyable, surprisingly so. I'd definitely rate this among my top 3 substances, it felt so clean to me, and despite my initial debilitation when peaking, I was relatively clear mentally throughout. I actually really joyed the extended peak due to my re-dose as well. Next time, I plan on dosing 40mg orally at once to see how it magnifies the effects. I fully expect this to be an exponentially stronger experience, and probably take away my ability to gain anything from it socially. I have plenty to waste though, so I feel it's going to be worth it to sate my curiosity. Sorry if this is poorly written, I'm writing this at 2 in the morning, and will likely proof read, and edit it later.

 

[Innerpeace]

I have considerable experience with shrooms, lsd, 1p-lsd, and 25I-NBOMe as reference. Years of psychedelic experiences.

I have used this particular substance exactly two times before the trip I'm going to go into detail about in a moment. The first time, I did 4mg orally, the second time, 8 mg orally. The 4mg experience was very mild, but pleasant. Walking felt nice, talking even better. The second experience was considerably stronger, however, not visual besides what I can only describe as looking at the world through a fishbowl. Both times the substance kicked in quickly. Roughly 15 minutes before effects became noticeable. I thought of this at that point as a kind of mild MDMA, there were no real psychedelic affects to it. I decided to obtain a batch of it before completely writing it off, which leads us to my report.




7:32 PM.
Me and my SO each consumed 12mg of substance, dissolved in solution. We washed it down with juice to kill the rather unpleasant flavour. We decided to watch TV while waiting for it to kick in.

8:30~PM.
Neither me, nor my partner felt anything but mild anxiety. We assumed that the solution (which was temporarily exposed to extreme heat) must have deteriorated in quality, as such, we dosed another 12mg each to see if we could at least have a mild experience from the substance.

8:40~PM.
We quickly realized that this was in fact not necessary at all. We started coming up rather quickly after the re-dose. My anxiety faded as the peak came, hers worsened. Attempts to talk her down were quite difficult, as maintaining speech, and proper breathing at the same time were quite hard. I decided to put on music, as we both felt this was about to get very intense.

8:50~PM.
Almost instantly it went from that light MDMA feeling from the last two times to crazy intense visuals, enhanced kinesthetic sensations almost twice that of the strongest MDMA high I've experienced, and a giant appreciation for music. By almost instantly, I mean within less than a minute, I've never been hit this hard, or suddenly, by anything before. My mind was still sharp when I wanted it to be, although it was easy to kind of blank out my mind, and just ride the experience. At this point, I stopped checking the time for quite a while though, and my time perception was destroyed.

After 8:50PM, Before 11:00PM.
As we couldn't really do much in our new-found state, we just laid there, listening to music for a while. 15ish minutes judging by how many songs we listened to. We kind of felt sobered up after this time, but we figured it was the trip coming and going in waves as some users have reported. She was having some mild anxiety still, so we decided to have a shower before we started tripping again. What we thought would calm us some made the trip far more intense. My shower is rather large, and the sides of it are tiled with colour swirls. This proved to intensify hallucinations, and with them, psychedelic thoughts. The anxiety had faded completely though, and it was actually a very enjoyable experience. The visuals were as strong as LSD, but similar to mushrooms hallucination style if that makes sense to you all. Even with my intense trip, my partner was noticeably considerably higher than me. She couldn't even describe the visuals to me afterwards. She was seeing colours that aren't even real, and she described the world as "melting" around her. The patters swirling through my tiles seemed like extravagant pieces of art to me, I came to a realization that there is so much beauty in everyday things if you look for it, not everything is as boring, and mundane as at first glance.

The shower was probably one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had on hallucinogens, words really can't do it justice. The water was the perfect temperature, and I could distinctly feel every drop of water hitting me (or at least I thought I could). The warmth, and the water really did a lot to brighten my mood, I was ecstatic after this, as was my partner. We decided to head to our bedroom again when the end of a wave came so we didn't end up stuck in a cold shower. When we got into bed, the blanket rubbing against our bodies put both of us into a very sensual mood. We got touchy-feely, and ended up making love. It was such a passionate, easy session. The substance was easy to achieve erection, and orgasm on. By the end of it, I was seeing a rainbow aura around everything, and felt so much love for her. I don't often verbally express my feelings, but we sat there and talked about our love for one another for probably 45 minutes. It was nice to be able to express myself so easily, and it most definitely brought us closer together.

11:00~PM.
It was shortly after 11 when we were done talking, and we were noticeably coming down at this point. Each wave brought us less, and less of the high back. We both found ourselves a little bit sad that it was going away, but had no real urge to does again either. We decided to eat some food, quite delicious.

12:00~AM.
My SO decided she wanted to sleep, I decided I wanted to go look at some of the things in our home, and just observe their beauty, and reflect on the evening/night. I was still having mild visuals, but no other effects. I had mild gastro intestinal pressure, but it didn't really bother me.

2:00~AM.
Visuals gone, went to bed. Great difficulty sleeping.

8:00AM.
Alarm went off, me and my SO got up with no difficulty. Both woke up feeling pretty great. No hangover, general warm glow for the rest of the day.



I definitely found nothing special about this in low doses, but high doses were quite enjoyable, surprisingly so. I'd definitely rate this among my top 3 substances, it felt so clean to me, and despite my initial debilitation when peaking, I was relatively clear mentally throughout. I actually really joyed the extended peak due to my re-dose as well. Next time, I plan on dosing 40mg orally at once to see how it magnifies the effects. I fully expect this to be an exponentially stronger experience, and probably take away my ability to gain anything from it socially. I have plenty to waste though, so I feel it's going to be worth it to sate my curiosity. Sorry if this is poorly written, I'm writing this at 2 in the morning, and will likely proof read, and edit it later.

Ive seen it said somewhere before that this feels similar to mdma. I know it hits the same receptors for 5-h1a or whatever. sounds like a great time with your SO.

If this was 12 mgs no chance in hell logic says jump tpo 40 mgs. You just said from 8-12 it was 3x's wat stronger or something. maybe 20 mgs next time and see what that does- no more than that. Take your time . ive seen trip reports on this stuff where people say the body load was too much. Moreover, glad you commu7nicated nicely with your so , girls love when you communicate well with them and really does bond you closer

 

[nasir~]

I like moxy(that's how they call it, right?) quite a lot too. For me it feels pretty much as you described. Low doses do feel somewhat similar to mdma (_similar_ means it shares some characteristics with it, not that it substitutes for it,of course ). Jumping right to _40_(!)mg. might (_very_ likely will) not only feel very uncomfortable but also is outright dangerous! It has got a steep dose-response curve.
Titrate up slowly, by maybe 20% to 50% _maximum_!
I got best results when I staggered my dose(s) over a time period of 60 -150 minutes. By taking it that way I could take a higher total dose with relatively low bodyload. Then the trip was strong but very enjoyable!
Take care

 

[Kaleida]

Thanks for sharing this. I'm planning to be trying 5-MeO-MiPT some time in the relatively near future and I am interested particularly in working my way up to the kinds of doses you describe. What you experienced seems to match what I have heard before in that high doses can be surprisingly free of body tension once it peaks and shockingly psychedelic at times.

I wanted to note, a shower is definitely a wonderful way to make a trip more intense! I've gone from almost nothing to complete hallucination in seconds before just from taking a big bong hit and then jumping in the shower while coming up on many tryptamines. I often use it as a way to gauge how intense the trip can become because the way it enhances my closed eye visuals is usually of a similar degree to listening to music with headphones on. And of course the water does feel amazing and helps tremendously with anxious feelings and somatic effects....

 

[Abrecan]

I like moxy(that's how they call it, right?) quite a lot too. For me it feels pretty much as you described. Low doses do feel somewhat similar to mdma (_similar_ means it shares some characteristics with it, not that it substitutes for it,of course ). Jumping right to _40_(!)mg. might (_very_ likely will) not only feel very uncomfortable but also is outright dangerous! It has got a steep dose-response curve.
Titrate up slowly, by maybe 20% to 50% _maximum_!
I got best results when I staggered my dose(s) over a time period of 60 -150 minutes. By taking it that way I could take a higher total dose with relatively low bodyload. Then the trip was strong but very enjoyable!
Take care

I understand that titrating is smarter, and safer. I've taken almost a sheet of LSD at once though, so I'm relatively certain I can handle the effects of 40mg all at once. As with the sheet, I wholly expect it to be an uncomfortable, yet great learning experiance as long as I go into it mentally prepared for some struggles.



Thank you for the tip on staggering doses though, I'll have to try it.

 

[Solipsis]

A very bad argument, I don't know if you've considered but taking tens of standard doses of most other drugs is not generally safe at all. LSD is an exception in this regard really.

5-MeO-MiPT is pretty stimulating and affects other receptors than LSD, namely 5HT1A - but that does not even necessarily explain all 5-MeO tryptamine side effects.
Actually 5-MeO tryptamines don't have such a reputation for being safe, and overdoses of 5-MeO-MiPT are considered terribly uncomfortable, also you should expect it to be hard on the heart and bloodvessels. Don't try replicating MDMA effects before you get yourself hurt.

Glad you understand that titrating is safer.. did you also know the dose-response curve is rarely linear meaning that a twofold increase in dose does not necessarily mean a twofold increase in effect but often more? Considering 10 mg is enough for most and your partner had a difficult time.. be careful with it. Don't make easy comparisons and assumptions, because I don't imagine it's worth the risk fooling around with.