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Trip Reports Moderator: M!$ter-ED
5-MEO-DiPT + Oxycontin + Cannabis -- First Time Combination -- Foxycontin
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Well, in another thread where someone was discussing driving on experimental drugs, this particular moderator went so far as to ban discussion of the driving aspect of the report and told people they could only make positive comments, and censored posts to enforce this.
This has come up several times. The moderator in question may not have gone so far as to say "Driving on powerful drugs is COOL!" but I think that if you're forbidding people from making negative remarks about actions that recklessly endanger innocent people's lives and thanking people for making posts about such activities... that's pretty much condoning.
If the moderators dont want these trip reports to be subject to discussion, then why even have an interactive forum? Just let the people send the reports to Erowid and then nobody can make any comments at all. The very fact that this IS a *discussion* forum means that these reports and all their content are open to discussion. If someone reports doing something horribly unethical such as driving while hallucinating, committing acts of violence against people, date rape, etc... well, those kind of posts definately deserve negative responses and such responses should be allowed. If the only moderator approved responses are along the lines of "Thanks for your report. Lovely use of adjectives describing the splatter of your victim's blood! Please post another soon!" then that's pretty fucked up.
It's one thing if people are just trying to be disruptive out of boredom, replying to reports with comments like "ha ha u did excstacy, u'r a stupid rave fag lol!" that's one thing. Thats uncalled for and unconstructive abusiveness. On the other hand, if someone is posting about something they did that recklessly and/or callously endangered or harmed innocent people... or if someone is encouraging people to do outrageously stupid and dangerous things... well, that definately should be up for discussion, and depending on the seriousness of the activity involved, those discussions should certainly be allowed to get pretty heated. In this particular incident, we had someone take an unknown dose of an experimental psychedelic along with a powerful narcotic, then get in a car KNOWING he was hallucinating and incapacitated... for no reason more than a selfish desire to go to a record store. That's reprehensible. That is not someone who deserves to be defended or thanked for anything, no matter how well written their report was (and this one was no literary masterpiece).
I think the policies of the Trip Reports forum need to undergo some SERIOUS review.
This has come up several times. The moderator in question may not have gone so far as to say "Driving on powerful drugs is COOL!" but I think that if you're forbidding people from making negative remarks about actions that recklessly endanger innocent people's lives and thanking people for making posts about such activities... that's pretty much condoning.
If the moderators dont want these trip reports to be subject to discussion, then why even have an interactive forum? Just let the people send the reports to Erowid and then nobody can make any comments at all. The very fact that this IS a *discussion* forum means that these reports and all their content are open to discussion. If someone reports doing something horribly unethical such as driving while hallucinating, committing acts of violence against people, date rape, etc... well, those kind of posts definately deserve negative responses and such responses should be allowed. If the only moderator approved responses are along the lines of "Thanks for your report. Lovely use of adjectives describing the splatter of your victim's blood! Please post another soon!" then that's pretty fucked up.
It's one thing if people are just trying to be disruptive out of boredom, replying to reports with comments like "ha ha u did excstacy, u'r a stupid rave fag lol!" that's one thing. Thats uncalled for and unconstructive abusiveness. On the other hand, if someone is posting about something they did that recklessly and/or callously endangered or harmed innocent people... or if someone is encouraging people to do outrageously stupid and dangerous things... well, that definately should be up for discussion, and depending on the seriousness of the activity involved, those discussions should certainly be allowed to get pretty heated. In this particular incident, we had someone take an unknown dose of an experimental psychedelic along with a powerful narcotic, then get in a car KNOWING he was hallucinating and incapacitated... for no reason more than a selfish desire to go to a record store. That's reprehensible. That is not someone who deserves to be defended or thanked for anything, no matter how well written their report was (and this one was no literary masterpiece).
I think the policies of the Trip Reports forum need to undergo some SERIOUS review.
*=Regulator=*
Bluelighter
In this particular thread all Catch-22 did was thank the user for his post. Just because the actions of the poster were stupid does not mean he should be discouraged from telling others about them. All catch-22 did was achknowledge the sharing of an experience. It is not the moderator's job to apply a subjective morality judegement to every post that appears. There are countless examples of users writing of experiences that many would consider to be morally wrong. There is no need for moderators to reply to these with "thanks for posting, but in my subjective opinion as defined by my own individual belief set what you did was morally wrong" or the like.
In this case the thread facilitated discussion of the dangers of driving while affected by drugs so it contributed to the body of knowledge contained on Bluelight.
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In this case the thread facilitated discussion of the dangers of driving while affected by drugs so it contributed to the body of knowledge contained on Bluelight.
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negrogesic
Bluelight Crew
Offtopic post removed.
Take it to private boys.
[ 20 September 2002: Message edited by: Splatt ]
Take it to private boys.
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Shneed: Neurogesic obviously lacks the capability of being convinced, so I had no intention of trying to convince him. The flames were purely punitive. Also, I don't care what you or anybody else thinks.
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Splatt
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This thread has become a offtopic flame war, and this forum does not tolerate it. The point has been made, driving under the influence of drugs is by no means smart. But you can only make the same point so many times, then the war between a few people continued, so I've closed it. If you have any queries or comments e-mail me and we can discuss it privately.
Ximot
Bluelighter
it must be interesting to combine a powerful opiate with a psychedelic. I suppose you get the dreams you would with the opiate but they'd be way more waking dreams, OE dreams rather than CE dreams, and kind of trip-enhanced. Must try that sort of thing with a nice cup of freshly brewed Kratom tea one day (staying at home, not driving, obviously).