Tryptamines 5-MeO-aMT

[Mobin]

Will hopefully be getting some 5-MeO-aMT. I know the reputation is almost as bad as Datura but I feel most of these bad reports are from inexperienced and wreckless users. Plus, careful people probably stop too soon before the mental effects start to counter the negative physical effects like how 40-50 ug LSD had just annoying effects ime. I was planning to titrate in 500 ug increments. Then when a charcater is established or 2.5 mg (whichever comes first), titrate even slower and/ or performing 3 trials before increasing dosage.

Any other precautions besides boiler plate like 3rd party analysis, abolutely no other psychoactives including caffeine and even sugar, maintaining as much of a control as possible (same duration of fasting, time of day, set/ setting)?

I feel if I were careful enough I could write a short book about this rarely properly researched psychedelic.

Also, this will be fumarate form. Any ideas of shelf life? I hope it's also ethanol soluble. Storing in ethanol would increase shelf life, right? Too many questions, I deeply appreciate any help!

 

[Pfafffed]

Shelf life of a 5-methoxy substituted tryptamine stored in a sealed container in a cool, dry, sealed place should be long. Storing in ethanol would likely make it degrade more quickly, as even anhydrous ethanol will likely quickly absorb atmospheric water, I would think. I don't think it want to be sorting salts in a solution if stability is what you're after, but hey I'm no chemist.

Good luck with the material. I hope you're right. I've had some in storage for over 20 years and have never tried it. Every time I get curious, I start thinking about
A) how uniformly negative reports were
B) how much sense it makes that it putting a 5-methoxy group onto aMT would be awful and dangerous. 5-MeO-DMT and aMT are some of the only psychedelic tryptamines that have toxic drug interactions, both with other serotonergic drugs.

 

[Mobin]

Thanks for the info! I'll still use volumetric then just 20 mg at a time. The first 20 mg will enough for the first like 9 trials lol. I really hope I can get around to it. It will be well documented if I do. Is there any reason to believe the fumarate form wouldn't be soluble in 151 or grain alcohol? I'll have to use my magnifying glasses to be somewhat sure I guess.

 

[Achten]

I have used and enjoyed 5meo-amt quite some times. Nowadays i just don't have enough time to trip 16hours so it has been a while. I have the HCL and mainly used it in party settings. I also shared with 2friends who still do it once or twice a year.

I worked my way up from 0,1mg (love it as a microdose) to 2,5mg. For me and my friends, 2,25mg was the perfect party dose. At 2,5mg the bodyload became a bit top much for careless dancing. At 2,25mg we combined with 4homet/mushrooms/al-lad at T+6h.

Don't know anything about the fumarate.

 

[Didgital]

I've only one friend friend who enjoyed it, and I know 2 people that took it and were never the same again. So tread carefully. I think your plan is good and wish you the best. I would avoid mixing it with anything else.

 

[Innerpeace]

Is 5 meo amt toxic as amt?

 

[Pfafffed]

Is 5 meo amt toxic as amt?

I'm not sure what you're asking here. We don't know much about the potential short or long term effects of most research chemicals. The research is spotty or completely missing. We can usually only speculate.

What do you mean by toxic? You can certainly have a fatal overdose on aMT, but that's not unusual and I only know of 1-2 instances. Combinations with serotonergic drugs can be dangerous, but that's also true for many cough syrups. Long term effects are unknown and subject to lots of variables (dose, frequency, etc.)

 

[Achten]

Is 5 meo amt toxic as amt?

Post above me explains it Well.

I would like to add that for me personally, aMT feels cleaner and less "heavy" on the body, at comparable doses (X10 what a 5meoamt dose would be). Feeling cleaner says nothing about toxicity though.

If you refer to the MAO properties i would consider them both equally strong in their MAOI effects.
Never combine them with any releasers of mono amines.

 

[Mobin]

Almost all the summary/ retrospectives on Erowid seem positive but there's lots of horror stories as well lol.

 

[Pfafffed]

It sounds like it's quite dose sensitive, which can lead to some unhappy times for pioneers of the drug. Being misrepresented as LSD certainly can't have helped it either.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Have you experience with aMT? My experience with this substances that some place them the highest regions while for others feel its effects are far below acceptable ground.

The last group I am part of, so I would never consider taking the 5-meo version.
Even the aMT still lays somewhere. Smelly, yellowed and untouched for 30 years.

Titration especially if its your first try, and no experience with aMT or even Psilocybine seems very reasonable. The effects of aMT reminded me mostly of akin to the mindset bodyload of Psylocybine, but stretched beyond my limit. And with little psychedelic or emphatogenic effects.

 

[Generation *DMT*]

Do you really mean 5methoxy-nn-dMT?

 

[Mobin]

I loved aMT and wish I could get it in usa. I think it was white powder not completely crystalline I'm no chem major tho. Light bodyload with clean euphoria and unique visuals and headspace. Not pushy like mdxx but definitely better than 2C-B no puffy feeling if that makes sense.

 

[Pfafffed]

I had such high hopes for aMT, but alas I responded to it just like MDMA and the benzofuran serotonin releasers. I just don't enjoy them.

 

[Mobin]

You don't enjoy mdma? Maybe you take too much. I didn't enjoy 6-APB at all tho

 

[emkee_reinvented]

I had such high hopes for aMT, but alas I responded to it just like MDMA and the benzofuran serotonin releasers. I just don't enjoy them.

Thats what you always read, for some its like some kinda MDMA like Serotonin/ emphatogen.
MDMA, bk-MDMA and 6-APB/ 5-MAPB. Loved all those, Pfaffed you might be lucky you didnt like this class of drugs,
as they are very fiendish for some if they do.

aMT didnt have the slightest resemblance with none of them. For me it felt almost like Psilocybine, bodyload/ mind wise. But bared any psychedelic effect's, no CEV/ OEV noticed. Oeh and it lasts and lasts. Which with Mushrooms you know despite the time dilation, it works about 5 hours.

Do you really mean 5methoxy-nn-dMT?

5-meo-aMT

 

[izo]

I had 5meo-amt once at around 2-2.5mg compared to countless times i had amt. All in all i liked it even a Bit more than Amt. Its a good Bit stronger than Amt but i didnt feel any Bad Symptoms from it. Many reported an upset stomach for example. I like to compare 5meo-amt to amt like i compare hydrohydromorphone to morphine strenght wise.

 

[fastandbulbous]

5-MeOAMT can be a bit rough on the stomach (& GI tract), but as had been said, about on a par with psilocybin (though much, much longer acting), with slightly different visuals. I found 2mg to be right for me as any higher and my guts detracted from any positive effect.