5-MAPB makes me feel normal instead of getting me high

[dopamimetic]

Some context: I have been off any drugs for around 2 years now, before I went through a deep, dark dissociative and opioid addiction and felt like shit after quitting, not just the withdrawal shitty but unable to focus, oversleeping/often tired or then restless and nervous, anxiety all days long. It got better the first few weeks to months after quitting but then stuck on that level. I was also on venlafaxine for many years and quit that one too. So it's quite hard to pin down what caused my issues.

Now recently I found a leftover baggie of 5-MAPB, originating from a reliable source. I've done many drugs but for some reason never MDMA or other empathogens but dabbled a bit with 4,4'-dimethylaminorex which was a beautiful high. I decided to break with my sobriety and dosed a bit of the 5-MAPB. As I am living with my gf and didn't want to look too obviously drugged I decided to do low dosages and snorted maybe 25mg, wait for 45mins and snort the next bump until I would get a threshold high. This never came, I just continued to snort bumps throughout the day, it gave me a faint come-up but I never went actually high. But stuff felt good, so I continued dosing and this is where stuff gets a bit weird. I must have done at least 200mg a day.

This drug seems to make me feel finally normal again. While on the stuff it didn't really feel like much but it was certainly active and I craved for more. Instead I spent hours in front of my computer in a flow like state, absorbing information like I couldn't for the last years. No more tiredness, no anxiety, not manic like many mood elevating drugs but just invincible against negative emotions and thoughts. I felt perfectly normal, not altered in any way. I woke up earlier and earlier on these days, like 6-7am instead of 11am and felt fully awake but in a very calm way instead of being hungover. No negative thoughts at all. Just a nice day like every day should be.

I only really realized this when I run out and stuff continued, a bit less pronounced, for 1-2 days and then I was back to baseline. And oh boy how does this suck. I know that 5-MAPB is a serotonin releaser and shouldn't be used on multiple days in a row, but there was no comedown at all, stuff just faded away. And then I realized how much this had been active indeed. But again, I never felt high, no jaw clenching, no dilated pupils or desire to hug anyone etc. My gf didn't notice anything either. Yet the anxiety relief was on par with a low dose of a benzo without the sedative bits. Rather I'd say this shit was a stim so calm that it can't even really be called a stim.

Now of course I want more. SSRIs aren't really an option, they sucked and never really worked besides some initial hypomania. More 5-MAPB isn't an option either, I know stuff would go downhill if I'd continue and there's a good chance for RCs to get seized here anyways. Many pharmaceuticals are OTC here but unfortunately no MAO inhibitors.

Anybody having a clue about what was going on?

 

[Liser]

Seems AHDH :O

 

[raising_da_piggy]

This seems like an exact correct fit for six a.p.b .I came across this in a very small pellet, again ; felt normal , not high, able, motor functions all well and good no paranoia. A smooth transition and one bought on energy and a train journey later I found my self buy'ing blue cathinone in an adult shop. it seems normal then as be it true that I like "blue" pills as I think etizolam works for normal ethnogenic extension...and perhaps going on to say and become transfixed with positive adornment of the nitrazapam experience..But then where would we be if the "red"devil pill is there on mass for our psychonauts of the cosmos.. see as though the definition of amphetamine is thus ; ( a derivative of ) a synthetic drug which has a stimulant action on the brain, the very notion of the definition of 'drug' now bares an atomic weight as being; any substance , mineral , vegetable or animal, used as the basis or as an ingredient in medical preparations, ( the moleculer weight now shrouded to the princible..) perhaps this be the subjective!
And now the latter being the objective;
, a poison , a potion , a narcotic coursing addiction....and on this note ; penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself.
President Jimmy Carter, October 2, 1977.
A pellet,I shit you not.

 

[raising_da_piggy]

Oh and just to add...you say you were on effexer right? Then you quit . Could you just clarify why ? And do you want to get back on it ? I am currently on effexer . It saved my life, I would not want to come off it . I can imagine your brain grows new path ways ,And perhaps your happyness is catered for now but i want to keep on growing pathways as my tendencies need this to fight my sort of depresion .what are your feelings about this particular snri regards..ex etard .

 

[Phobos]

Some context: I have been off any drugs for around 2 years now, before I went through a deep, dark dissociative and opioid addiction and felt like shit after quitting, not just the withdrawal shitty but unable to focus, oversleeping/often tired or then restless and nervous, anxiety all days long. It got better the first few weeks to months after quitting but then stuck on that level. I was also on venlafaxine for many years and quit that one too. So it's quite hard to pin down what caused my issues.

Now recently I found a leftover baggie of 5-MAPB, originating from a reliable source. I've done many drugs but for some reason never MDMA or other empathogens but dabbled a bit with 4,4'-dimethylaminorex which was a beautiful high. I decided to break with my sobriety and dosed a bit of the 5-MAPB. As I am living with my gf and didn't want to look too obviously drugged I decided to do low dosages and snorted maybe 25mg, wait for 45mins and snort the next bump until I would get a threshold high. This never came, I just continued to snort bumps throughout the day, it gave me a faint come-up but I never went actually high. But stuff felt good, so I continued dosing and this is where stuff gets a bit weird. I must have done at least 200mg a day.

This drug seems to make me feel finally normal again. While on the stuff it didn't really feel like much but it was certainly active and I craved for more. Instead I spent hours in front of my computer in a flow like state, absorbing information like I couldn't for the last years. No more tiredness, no anxiety, not manic like many mood elevating drugs but just invincible against negative emotions and thoughts. I felt perfectly normal, not altered in any way. I woke up earlier and earlier on these days, like 6-7am instead of 11am and felt fully awake but in a very calm way instead of being hungover. No negative thoughts at all. Just a nice day like every day should be.

I only really realized this when I run out and stuff continued, a bit less pronounced, for 1-2 days and then I was back to baseline. And oh boy how does this suck. I know that 5-MAPB is a serotonin releaser and shouldn't be used on multiple days in a row, but there was no comedown at all, stuff just faded away. And then I realized how much this had been active indeed. But again, I never felt high, no jaw clenching, no dilated pupils or desire to hug anyone etc. My gf didn't notice anything either. Yet the anxiety relief was on par with a low dose of a benzo without the sedative bits. Rather I'd say this shit was a stim so calm that it can't even really be called a stim.

Now of course I want more. SSRIs aren't really an option, they sucked and never really worked besides some initial hypomania. More 5-MAPB isn't an option either, I know stuff would go downhill if I'd continue and there's a good chance for RCs to get seized here anyways. Many pharmaceuticals are OTC here but unfortunately no MAO inhibitors.

Anybody having a clue about what was going on?

I think that you need to get a big enough initial dose with serotonin heavy SNDRA (or Serotonin-Norepinephrine-Dopamine Releasing Agent) drugs like MDMA or 5-MAPB, or the roll never starts.

I am unsure why exactly, but my experience is that, after the first dose, you have 45 to 60 minutes to redose and get higher, and then you can only prolong the experience after that, but you cannot get higher.
The specific amount of time might be different with different drugs and different people, but you get my point.


I will also add that at least some Benzofurans have a strong enough affinity for the 5HT2B receptor that you really cannot use them daily without reshaping your heart valves.
So please look into that before considering using them more than a few times per year.