Jesusgreen
Bluelight Crew
Forewarning:
As with my 6-APB report, I'd like to add a word of caution to this. 5-APB is an MDA analogue, and as such it should be treated with the same caution as MDA - using it more than once a month (ideally you should use it less frequently than once a month too) is likely to lead to similar issues of serotonin receptor down-regulation, leading to loss of magic for serotonergic drugs, anxiety, depression etc.
In addition, 5-APB is more potent by weight than 6-APB, so please do not jump in at the same dose range as you'd usually use with 6-APB, or you'll likely be overwhelmed in an unpleasant way. I found 110mg to be quite strong, probably a touch more potent than 150mg of 6-APB.
Stay safe and be cautious
Background info:
Light tan fine powder 5-APB with some clumps. Smelt similar to 6-APB but stronger - this is probably due to the fact that there is a larger amount of 5-APB than 6-APB in the same weight.
My stomach was pretty empty at the time of dosing, around 2 and a half to 3 hours since my last meal.
Dose: 110mg oral, dissolved in a glass of water. Also licked up the few crumbs stuck to my finger that wouldn't come off, negligible amount probably at most 1 or 2mg, but worth mentioning.
My weight: 147lbs (67kg)
I've never tried any MDxx chemicals, and the entactogens I've tried are 6-APB (twice at 150mg and 250mg), Mephedrone (4-5 times at varying doses) and aMT (twice at 50mg and 75mg). As you'd expect, this was quite similar to 6-APB, had some similarities to aMT, and was least similar to Mephedrone of the lot.
Report:
(Warning: Times are likely to be quite inaccurate and rough!)
(Warning II: I will make a lot of comparisons to 6-APB in this report)
T+0:00: Measured out 110mg, poured it into a drink of apple juice. This seems to have been a bad idea as it didn't mix very well - so I drank the juice and then poured in water, now it mixed easily. I drank the drink rather slowly, as the taste was more bitter than 6-APB, and it took nearly 10 minutes of sipping it to finish it. (In retrospect I could have drank it much quicker but I was in the middle of an online conversation while doing it)
T+0:20: First alerts, feel like if I've taken something for sure, and feel a little edgy. I think it's mostly just the anticipation of the effects, as from what I'd heard 6-APB blows this one out of the water, so I was expecting quite a disappointment, and hoped I wouldn't be so let down.
T+0:40: I really do feel something now. Feels like the come up with this one is very slightly quicker than 6-APB, as 6-APB I didn't really notice it's presence much at all until after about an hour if I remember correctly. Touch is starting to feel a little nicer.
T+0:50: Touch is starting to feel really great, and I can feel euphoria growing. I also feel some discomfort and nausea, something that I didn't notice at all with 6-APB. I seemed to have lingering taste of 5-APB in my mouth that I couldn't get rid of and it made me feel quite queasy. I knew for a fact it wasn't going to get strong enough to make me feel like throwing up though, and I had the distinct feeling that the nausea would pass.
At this point I decided to go for a shower, as I've always heard showers are great on entactogens, but believe it or not, I've never experienced it. I know how amazing showers on other drugs can be, so I thought it'd be great.
I was not wrong.
I felt no real euphoria, but touch felt good. Then I got in the shower and the water on my body felt like I was being massaged by all of the world's most beautiful women while being serenaded by angels. It was a really wonderful feeling, and I was hit by wave after wave of uncontrollable euphoria, it really felt like touch completely controlled the euphoria at this point. If I stepped out from under the water - no high, back under - Damn this feels good!
For reference, water on my face felt the best of anything, and I really could have stayed in the shower for the whole experience, but I was soon craving music.
Before I got out, the nausea was still present, but when I washed my face, the smell of the soap somehow completely eliminated the bodyload and I felt great, able to enjoy the experience fully from then on.
T+1:10: After a nice 20 minute shower I finally got out, got dry and dressed, and put on some music. I can't remember what I put on first, but I believe it was Darude's album, Rush, as this had been great on 6-APB before.
Like with 6-APB, it sounded great, and gave me some nice rushes - I would say if 6-APB were a 10/10 for euphoria, 5-APB would be a 7/10 or 8/10 when listening to good music. It was great, but not quite as great as 6-APB in this respect.
However, once again, when touch came into the equation, it rocketed up, equalling and sometimes beating 6-APB's constant euphoria. I ended up rubbing my hands on my arms, chest and face for the best part of the experience. Enhanced tactile sensations were definitely much more present than with 6-APB.
I spent the next couple of hours playing the game League of Legends with some friends over voice chat. It isn't the sort of thing I'd normally think was appropriate for this type of experience, but the teamplay was nice.
T+3:10: I was peaking quite hard now, music causing intense rushes, now and 8/10 or 9/10, quite close to 6-APB, though still not as satisfying. Once again, when combined with touch it was comparable to 6-APB in it's euphoria, though 6-APB's euphoria was more mental and 5-APB's more physical.
I listened to some Deadmau5, Daft Punk, Swedish House Mafia. It all sounded really great, but I kept wanting to switch music as I felt like there was someone major I was missing that I should be listening to - and knew in about an hour I'd likely start to level off and begin the descent down.
At some points it suddenly felt like I was almost sober again, the euphoria disappearing, but then a change of song or touching my arms suddenly brought me right back up to a 10/10. This was very pleasant as every time I felt "Oh damn
" and then was utterly amazed when I was brought back up even higher than before.
One thing worth mentioning is even at the peak my heart-rate was elevated but nowhere near as much as with 6-APB. Same goes for body temperature. I felt like this was a lot more easy going on the body. Of course, feeling doesn't always reflect science so that doesn't necessarily suggest this is any safer.
T+4:30: Although this was around the time when the 6-APB ride smoothed out and the comedown just about started to begin, I felt the same waves of up and down as earlier, and touch would always restore it to it's full potential, I didn't feel any of the effects start to drop off at all - great!
There were no visuals, but interestingly enough, while 6-APB was visual, it felt like a stimulant rather than feeling mind-manifesting (psychedelic) in any ways, 5-APB on the other hand left me feeling quite "messy" in my head like some psychedelics with mindfuck, despite having no visuals. This messy feeling meant that although talking felt as great as on 6-APB, I often zoned out and forgot what I was saying.
T+6:00: Although I had already started to come down it felt so gradual compared to 6-APB. While I felt great until baseline with 6-APB, there was a significant feeling of loss and I really began to miss the peak - with 5-APB on the other hand I felt no such feeling, and listening to good music, rubbing my arms, and talking to people - just kept me feeling great the whole time. I also had the distinct feeling it would be easier to sleep on this once I came down fully.
T+7:00: An hour later I was still feeling great. Music sounded amazing, touch felt just as good as on the peak, and although it didn't bring me quite up to the 10/10 for euphoria, it was still hitting anywhere from 7/10 to 9/10. I asked someone for music suggestions and she suggested some nice dnb, ragga and progressive for me - leading to me discovering Neelix for the first time - who by the way: Is bloody awesome! :D (I wish I discovered him while I was still peaking though!)
T+8:00: --- At this point a small amount of alcohol is consumed, this may have affected things ---
Still feeling good but music appreciation and tactile sensations have dropped off a little - though both are required in order to fully enjoy the remaining euphoria. As with earlier, the comedown still feels extremely smooth, no missing the peak, just enjoying talking to people and having a good time.
Effects continued on at a similar level though very slowly dropping for the next couple of hours.
T+10:00: --- At this point I smoke 0.5mg of AM-2201 --- Now I feel near baseline but still with a good mood. Touch feels slightly better than normal, music still sounds really nice, but after the AM-2201 I'm starting to yawn a little, feeling nicely stoned and tired, ready to get some sleep soon.
T+11:00: Around now, give or take 30-60 minutes I end up heading to bed. I enjoy laying in bed stoned for a while. I'm not sure if it's the fact I used AM-2201 over weed, or if it's the 5-APB over 6-APB, but this really made the comedown much nicer and made it very easy to sleep - whereas smoking weed at the tail end of 6-APB led to my heart going crazy, me feeling a little dysphoric, and having even more trouble sleeping than I was before.
Days After: No hangover at all other than feeling a little tired the next day. No depression or anxiety or any problems like that. Also unlike 6-APB I didn't get a case of the shits! :D I suspect larger doses would have a hangover of some kind of course.
Summary:
Overall I really enjoyed my experience with 5-APB. Feels like a great drug particularly if used to connect with friends or loved ones. Music, talking and touch feel great - especially touch, if you're looking for something to improve tactile sensation then this was a real winner in my book.
Great time with no real problems on the comedown, and by getting stoned I found it very easy to sleep. No hangover at this dose.
Short comparison to 6-APB:
It's hard for me to say which I liked better. Right now if someone gave me the choice between the two I'd take 5-APB simply because the comedown can be quite rough on me with 6-APB and I enjoyed that 5-APB could feel just as good in the right setting without leaving with such a negative impact.
I feel like 6-APB is probably the winner when it comes to taking it in a club or at a concert/rave - anywhere with loud music and lots to talk about, while 5-APB would be better suited for a night in with a loved one, with lots of cuddling and kissing. It was much easier to achieve an erection on 5-APB than on 6-APB for me too so this, coupled with the awesome body high, would make for some great sex.
Euphoria without outside stimulation:
6-APB 9/10
5-APB 5/10
Music appreciation:
6-APB 9/10
5-APB 8/10
Empathy:
6-APB 7/10
5-APB 8/10
Talkativeness:
6-APB 10/10
5-APB 8/10
Body High/Tactile Sensation:
6-APB 6/10
5-APB 10/10
Hope you enjoyed reading. Feel free to post questions/comments!
As with my 6-APB report, I'd like to add a word of caution to this. 5-APB is an MDA analogue, and as such it should be treated with the same caution as MDA - using it more than once a month (ideally you should use it less frequently than once a month too) is likely to lead to similar issues of serotonin receptor down-regulation, leading to loss of magic for serotonergic drugs, anxiety, depression etc.
In addition, 5-APB is more potent by weight than 6-APB, so please do not jump in at the same dose range as you'd usually use with 6-APB, or you'll likely be overwhelmed in an unpleasant way. I found 110mg to be quite strong, probably a touch more potent than 150mg of 6-APB.
Stay safe and be cautious
Background info:
Light tan fine powder 5-APB with some clumps. Smelt similar to 6-APB but stronger - this is probably due to the fact that there is a larger amount of 5-APB than 6-APB in the same weight.
My stomach was pretty empty at the time of dosing, around 2 and a half to 3 hours since my last meal.
Dose: 110mg oral, dissolved in a glass of water. Also licked up the few crumbs stuck to my finger that wouldn't come off, negligible amount probably at most 1 or 2mg, but worth mentioning.
My weight: 147lbs (67kg)
I've never tried any MDxx chemicals, and the entactogens I've tried are 6-APB (twice at 150mg and 250mg), Mephedrone (4-5 times at varying doses) and aMT (twice at 50mg and 75mg). As you'd expect, this was quite similar to 6-APB, had some similarities to aMT, and was least similar to Mephedrone of the lot.
Report:
(Warning: Times are likely to be quite inaccurate and rough!)
(Warning II: I will make a lot of comparisons to 6-APB in this report)
T+0:00: Measured out 110mg, poured it into a drink of apple juice. This seems to have been a bad idea as it didn't mix very well - so I drank the juice and then poured in water, now it mixed easily. I drank the drink rather slowly, as the taste was more bitter than 6-APB, and it took nearly 10 minutes of sipping it to finish it. (In retrospect I could have drank it much quicker but I was in the middle of an online conversation while doing it)
T+0:20: First alerts, feel like if I've taken something for sure, and feel a little edgy. I think it's mostly just the anticipation of the effects, as from what I'd heard 6-APB blows this one out of the water, so I was expecting quite a disappointment, and hoped I wouldn't be so let down.
T+0:40: I really do feel something now. Feels like the come up with this one is very slightly quicker than 6-APB, as 6-APB I didn't really notice it's presence much at all until after about an hour if I remember correctly. Touch is starting to feel a little nicer.
T+0:50: Touch is starting to feel really great, and I can feel euphoria growing. I also feel some discomfort and nausea, something that I didn't notice at all with 6-APB. I seemed to have lingering taste of 5-APB in my mouth that I couldn't get rid of and it made me feel quite queasy. I knew for a fact it wasn't going to get strong enough to make me feel like throwing up though, and I had the distinct feeling that the nausea would pass.
At this point I decided to go for a shower, as I've always heard showers are great on entactogens, but believe it or not, I've never experienced it. I know how amazing showers on other drugs can be, so I thought it'd be great.
I was not wrong.
I felt no real euphoria, but touch felt good. Then I got in the shower and the water on my body felt like I was being massaged by all of the world's most beautiful women while being serenaded by angels. It was a really wonderful feeling, and I was hit by wave after wave of uncontrollable euphoria, it really felt like touch completely controlled the euphoria at this point. If I stepped out from under the water - no high, back under - Damn this feels good!
For reference, water on my face felt the best of anything, and I really could have stayed in the shower for the whole experience, but I was soon craving music.
Before I got out, the nausea was still present, but when I washed my face, the smell of the soap somehow completely eliminated the bodyload and I felt great, able to enjoy the experience fully from then on.
T+1:10: After a nice 20 minute shower I finally got out, got dry and dressed, and put on some music. I can't remember what I put on first, but I believe it was Darude's album, Rush, as this had been great on 6-APB before.
Like with 6-APB, it sounded great, and gave me some nice rushes - I would say if 6-APB were a 10/10 for euphoria, 5-APB would be a 7/10 or 8/10 when listening to good music. It was great, but not quite as great as 6-APB in this respect.
However, once again, when touch came into the equation, it rocketed up, equalling and sometimes beating 6-APB's constant euphoria. I ended up rubbing my hands on my arms, chest and face for the best part of the experience. Enhanced tactile sensations were definitely much more present than with 6-APB.
I spent the next couple of hours playing the game League of Legends with some friends over voice chat. It isn't the sort of thing I'd normally think was appropriate for this type of experience, but the teamplay was nice.
T+3:10: I was peaking quite hard now, music causing intense rushes, now and 8/10 or 9/10, quite close to 6-APB, though still not as satisfying. Once again, when combined with touch it was comparable to 6-APB in it's euphoria, though 6-APB's euphoria was more mental and 5-APB's more physical.
I listened to some Deadmau5, Daft Punk, Swedish House Mafia. It all sounded really great, but I kept wanting to switch music as I felt like there was someone major I was missing that I should be listening to - and knew in about an hour I'd likely start to level off and begin the descent down.
At some points it suddenly felt like I was almost sober again, the euphoria disappearing, but then a change of song or touching my arms suddenly brought me right back up to a 10/10. This was very pleasant as every time I felt "Oh damn
" and then was utterly amazed when I was brought back up even higher than before.One thing worth mentioning is even at the peak my heart-rate was elevated but nowhere near as much as with 6-APB. Same goes for body temperature. I felt like this was a lot more easy going on the body. Of course, feeling doesn't always reflect science so that doesn't necessarily suggest this is any safer.
T+4:30: Although this was around the time when the 6-APB ride smoothed out and the comedown just about started to begin, I felt the same waves of up and down as earlier, and touch would always restore it to it's full potential, I didn't feel any of the effects start to drop off at all - great!
There were no visuals, but interestingly enough, while 6-APB was visual, it felt like a stimulant rather than feeling mind-manifesting (psychedelic) in any ways, 5-APB on the other hand left me feeling quite "messy" in my head like some psychedelics with mindfuck, despite having no visuals. This messy feeling meant that although talking felt as great as on 6-APB, I often zoned out and forgot what I was saying.
T+6:00: Although I had already started to come down it felt so gradual compared to 6-APB. While I felt great until baseline with 6-APB, there was a significant feeling of loss and I really began to miss the peak - with 5-APB on the other hand I felt no such feeling, and listening to good music, rubbing my arms, and talking to people - just kept me feeling great the whole time. I also had the distinct feeling it would be easier to sleep on this once I came down fully.
T+7:00: An hour later I was still feeling great. Music sounded amazing, touch felt just as good as on the peak, and although it didn't bring me quite up to the 10/10 for euphoria, it was still hitting anywhere from 7/10 to 9/10. I asked someone for music suggestions and she suggested some nice dnb, ragga and progressive for me - leading to me discovering Neelix for the first time - who by the way: Is bloody awesome! :D (I wish I discovered him while I was still peaking though!)
T+8:00: --- At this point a small amount of alcohol is consumed, this may have affected things ---
Still feeling good but music appreciation and tactile sensations have dropped off a little - though both are required in order to fully enjoy the remaining euphoria. As with earlier, the comedown still feels extremely smooth, no missing the peak, just enjoying talking to people and having a good time.
Effects continued on at a similar level though very slowly dropping for the next couple of hours.
T+10:00: --- At this point I smoke 0.5mg of AM-2201 --- Now I feel near baseline but still with a good mood. Touch feels slightly better than normal, music still sounds really nice, but after the AM-2201 I'm starting to yawn a little, feeling nicely stoned and tired, ready to get some sleep soon.
T+11:00: Around now, give or take 30-60 minutes I end up heading to bed. I enjoy laying in bed stoned for a while. I'm not sure if it's the fact I used AM-2201 over weed, or if it's the 5-APB over 6-APB, but this really made the comedown much nicer and made it very easy to sleep - whereas smoking weed at the tail end of 6-APB led to my heart going crazy, me feeling a little dysphoric, and having even more trouble sleeping than I was before.
Days After: No hangover at all other than feeling a little tired the next day. No depression or anxiety or any problems like that. Also unlike 6-APB I didn't get a case of the shits! :D I suspect larger doses would have a hangover of some kind of course.
Summary:
Overall I really enjoyed my experience with 5-APB. Feels like a great drug particularly if used to connect with friends or loved ones. Music, talking and touch feel great - especially touch, if you're looking for something to improve tactile sensation then this was a real winner in my book.
Great time with no real problems on the comedown, and by getting stoned I found it very easy to sleep. No hangover at this dose.
Short comparison to 6-APB:
It's hard for me to say which I liked better. Right now if someone gave me the choice between the two I'd take 5-APB simply because the comedown can be quite rough on me with 6-APB and I enjoyed that 5-APB could feel just as good in the right setting without leaving with such a negative impact.
I feel like 6-APB is probably the winner when it comes to taking it in a club or at a concert/rave - anywhere with loud music and lots to talk about, while 5-APB would be better suited for a night in with a loved one, with lots of cuddling and kissing. It was much easier to achieve an erection on 5-APB than on 6-APB for me too so this, coupled with the awesome body high, would make for some great sex.
Euphoria without outside stimulation:
6-APB 9/10
5-APB 5/10
Music appreciation:
6-APB 9/10
5-APB 8/10
Empathy:
6-APB 7/10
5-APB 8/10
Talkativeness:
6-APB 10/10
5-APB 8/10
Body High/Tactile Sensation:
6-APB 6/10
5-APB 10/10
Hope you enjoyed reading. Feel free to post questions/comments!
