Opioids 4MGLoperamidePentoprazoleBlack Pepper Balls1spoon1grapefruit80mgCodeine 85mg methadon

[Thomas29]

I need to know if my usual 85MG Methadone Maintenance Dose I been on for more than 3 Months everyday I wanna use 4MG Loperamide with Tecta Pentoprazole and Black Pepperas PGP Inhibitors and Grapefruit with Codeine to Inhibit Cyp2d6 and Cyp3a4 and making baking soda to reduce ACIDITY hence Cimetidine would be best it inhibits two extra cyp enzymes also.... But I Ran Out Recently So I Need to know is this Dangerous and could Kill Me especially on my usual 3MG Clonazepam Dosages Per Day I got a Tolerance for it all but if it's just more likely to kill me than potentiate it tell me and i wont do it and save lope for a rainy day only.

 

[pinpoint]

wat

why would you take all of these?

 

[Jabberwocky]

literally haven't the slightest clue what you're expecting. 85mg of methadone will block out all other opiates, and I'm talking the hardcore ones.

waste of time, money and may even be dangerous. wouldn't bother. the inhibition of all the enzymes will most likely potentiate the methadone and make it more dangerous. bear in mind methadone blocks the effect of opiates, but not their respiratory depressive ones too.

 

[sekio]

Yes, it could kill you. If you do it it's best to have a sitter who can watch you and make sure you don't pass out or choke on your vomit.

 

[Thomas29]

Well if you knew anything they make Opioids last longer and arguably slightly more potent. But that's just Me and My Scientific Research and Proven Facts and Personal Experiences which is Worth Differently to Everybody that Information/Knowledge.

 

[Jabberwocky]

don't want to be rude but i think you need to do some more research on that one my friend. the methadone will block the codeine's effect in the brain but not the CNS. the loperamide will bind to more of the gut receptors, freeing up more in the brain (in basic terms), meaning POSSIBLY you could have a stronger effect from the methadone. if you want to potentiate methadone i strongly suggest using alternative methods.

 

[Thomas29]

I have been taking 85MG EVERYDAY FOR ALMOST HALF A YEAR EVERY DAY SIX MONTHS SOMETIMES I SWALLOW 120MGS ONE GO 15MG Clonazepam lot's of tolerance to Both worse I Nod out even add 0.3mg clonidine and 100mg Diphenhydramine and i use 1600mg Valerian Root if it would Kill Me why have I not Died after doing this Combination of herbs and pharmaceuticals and Illegal substances for 4 years without dying and apperently grapefruit works same way on weed as with Opioids and Weed also Inhibits CYP3A4 just like Grapefruit I AM EXTREMELY OPIATE/OPIOID TOLERANT I TAKE 85MG EVERYDAY BEEN SIX MONTHS ON THAT DOSE I SLOWLY BUILT UP TO BEEN Taking 10 mg clonazepam like a fucktard over a break up everyday I know im kickin death in the bALLS with the clonazepam and tolerance is only thing keeping my ass from being six feet under but i figured 4mg loperamide a Recommended Therapeutic Dosage for Filling Gut Receptors Allowing Methadone to Sedate Me More.


I AM LOOKING FOR PAIN RELIEF NOT A HIGH I KNOW METHADONE STOPS GIVING EUPHORIA BEYOND 60MG BUT WHAT ABOUT PAINKILLING EFFECTS OR DOES ALL IT DO IS SEDATE YOU AND MAKE U MORE SLEEPY AND Dangerously playing with fire and further addicted to the worse substance arguably equal to benzos.

 

[sekio]

Excuse me?

Making opioids more potent isn't necessarily always a good thing, it means that it's easier to overdose. So if that's too much for you, you won't be able to tell until it's too late and you're passing out.

It's well known that those other drugs potentiate narcotics but I don't see why you have to take them all at once. It seems kind of reckless. But you're the one taking them.

Methadone doesn't necessarily stop giving euphoria beyond any dosage, it's just that people usually have a pretty solid psychological tolerance to opioids by the time they get to those sort of dosages, and without taking them they would feel awful.

The pain relief does increase too. But if you want to get more pain relief this isn't the way to do it - the best way would be to investigate stuff like locally applied lidocaine, and ibuprofen (400-800mg) or naproxen (500-1000mg) to help the inflammation and pain. Generally people using all these potentiators are doing it to increase the euphoric effect.

If you pass out, or vomit and aspirate it, and die, then it's your fault not ours. Don't say we didn't warn you. Have someone to watch over you if you do this, or you are really taking a major risk.

You really should be talking with your doctor about ways to get pain relief rather than trying to potentiate your narcotics on your own.

 

[Jabberwocky]

uhhhh... I'm going to step back here because i honestly have no idea what you're expecting.. and actually grapefruit makes codeine less effective because it stops it being metabolised into morphine, you need a cyp2d inducer in order to get more results..... but you're on methadone anyway so it's irrelevant.

if you're on methadone at high doses (60-70+) and not getting adequate pain relief then you need to up the dose of methadone frankly, or add in some kind of other pain reliever such as an NSAID or perhaps talk to your doctor about lyrica or gabapentin. but even then thats a terrible idea considering the dose of clonazepam you're on too. christ.

 

[Thomas29]

synthetix


I Done My Research the Codeine is to Potentiate the Methadone and I know it wont do shit since Methadone is a CYP2D6 Inhibitor stopping Codeine from Turning as much into Morphine but I still got Cravings and Withdrawal Like hot and cold sweats im trying to compensate until they up My Dose since im Prescribed Temazepam 30 mg each night and 1mg clonazepam a night they are very cautious in upping my dose and the most they give is 120mg max my buddy has take homes if i ever need extra from Tolerance to the everyday same dose.


I DO NOT WANT TO EVER HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT VERY FIRST FEELING OF SNORTING OXY OR POPPING 4 PERCS AND THE RAGING CRAVING FOR THAT HIGH Methadone is Not gonna Cure But AT LEAST TAKE OFF THE EDGE they say you just gotta keep rising the dose which makes sense since for 4 years i was snorting 36mg to 56mg of Hydormorphone if you do the equivalence that is Equivalent to like 5 oxy 80s a day more i think 8 or some. shit was crazy intense i stopped getting high and it only lasts 6-8 hours so I got on Methadone so i can sleep and Welfare pays for it so i dont gotta spend money on Illegal pills daily.


Now stop treating me like a FUCKTARD AND TEACH ME SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW MR. PROFFESSOR. Not Trying to Atogonize or anything or flame heh just joking around all chill vibes here. Like Per MG Hydromorphone is second strongest in weight to Fentanyl and I heard when injecting it's quickest acting opiod quicker rush then Heroin even. But I was Insulffating i only inject after like 48 hours after my last methadone drink since that is ONLY WAY TO CUT THROUGH THE METHADONE RECEPTOR RECEPTOR HOG I ONLY I.V. USED ONCE AND HAD AN EXPERIENCED USER DO IT WITH A CLEAN SYRINGE BOUGHT HE IS GONNA SHOW ME HOW TO FLAG AND DO IT FOR ME ONE MORE TIME AND THEN CO-PILOT WHILE I LEARN FOR FIRST TIME HOW TO I.V. BECAUSE I HEARD OF HORROR STORIES WHERE PEOPLE GO INTO WITHDRAWAL FROM BEING KIDNAPPED FOR EXAMPLE 3 DAYS OF MISSING METHADONE DOSING THEY TAKE YOU OFF THE PROGRAM AND THIS ONE THREAD I READ OF A GUY WHO KEPT PUKING UP HIS METHADONE AND COULDN'T KEEP IT DOWN AND GET OUT OF WITHDRAWALS SO HE RESORTED TO INJECT MICRON FILTERED METHADONE BAD AS FUCK FOR THE VEINS BUT WAS ONLY WAY in case of EMERGENCY IM A BOY SCOUT I'D LIKE to be PRepared when if i get a Flew and I cant drink my drink without puking that day i can do shot of hydromorphone as long i got 4 days before pee testing if not i got other meds to help for pain from ibuprofen and tylenol to believe it or not Valium can Help Muscle Sprain Pain or Muscle Pain in general like from withdrawals.




synthetix


i will teach you A Fact Methadone HOGS AND FILLS THE OPIOID/OPIATE RECEPTORS SO TIGHTLY Oxy and low doses of hydro can not break through so it does not Block per say like Suboxone Literally stops them from being able to touch the Recepters there is people who Inject Heroin on 85mg while on the drink 6 hours Later Rush is not as intense by like 50% the high is weaker by that much they say but everyone is different people absorb 55% to like 93% of Methadone the 85mg people shooting up might only be absorbing 42mg really not exactly A high blocking dose you understand NO DO YOUR RESEARCH THAT TAKES HOURS BY THE WAY READING NOT JUST TALKING SHIT OR LISTENING TO OTHER JUNK HEADS KNOWLEDGE YOU NEED TO THINK FOR YOURSELF.



IF NOBODY HELPS ME I HOPE BLUE-LIGHT.org IS COOL WITH THE REPUTATION OF LETTING THERE FORUM USER POSTERS DROP DEAD LIKE FLIES FROM LACK OF FUCKIN ADVICE DUE TO IGNORANT PRICKS WOOPS I JUST WENT OUT OF HAND I MEAN Absent Minded Individuals who are to Good to Provide Knowledge on a PETTY SUBJECT Or What ever people think.

 

[Jabberwocky]

ummmm... i'm not treating you like a fucktard at all. you're just becoming hostile towards my responses. and you're now changing the fact that you want pain relief to euphoria? i have absolutely no idea anymore.

when i went to rehab i was taking around 1.5 grams to 2 grams of oxycontin a day for around 6-7 months. 80mg of methadone wasn't enough to hold me whatsoever, it didn't have the euphoric properties of oxycontin in the slightest if thats what you're looking for. no amount of methadone will. from what you're saying it just seems as though you're very intoxicated on the plethora of substances you're on and still looking for a fix. i'm sorry about that, but nothing will starve that off apart from time and patience.

thomas you're now talking about HEROIN not codeine and lopermide, they're essentially like comparing mike tyson and a beginner boxer in non opiate talk. i understand the pharmodynamics of methadone very well.

and actually, oxy can break through both methadone and subutex very easily in high doses. please don't underestimate how powerful that drug is, once again i speak from experience.

i understand what you're going through as i've done it myself. but please if you're on methadone and high doses of benzos (i was in the exact same situation, apart from i was contained in a mental institution essentially), please please hold off trying to get higher.

like i said, i think you're just very intoxicated on the substances you're consuming and should call it a night. please do not take any more drugs.

 

[Thomas29]

I AM ASKING FOR ADVICE SO I DON'T POTENTIATE THIS IS A HARM-REDUCTION WEBSITE NOT A MOMMY AND DADDY SHOULD I DO THIS WEBSITE? But if you really think it's just to dangerous with absolutely no benefit even for pain or sedation cause i got insomnia issues but if it will put me to slepe forever i will stay away just GIVE ME ADVICE not just dont do it explain with scientific knowlede i understand why it would be so dangerous and or dumb.

 

[Jabberwocky]

yes. please. just put them all down, they won't help you sleep, in fact they could put you to sleep permanently if you were to mix them. i've tried explaining with scientific knowledge as to why they most likely won't be beneficial towards anything, but you don't seem to be listening to what i'm saying.

don't take anything else tonight. what i suggest is getting under the blankets and getting some shut eye because i'm sure you'll be able to sleep. maybe not instantly, but soon.

 

[Thomas29]

is a grapefruit my usual dosage of benzos and 4mg loperamide gonna make me a vomit and die if i lie on my side on my bed and watch a movie will i survive if i puke since im on my side or am i still fucked i can get a sitter if neccessarry.

 

[Jabberwocky]

okay now that we're adding benzos into the equation DO NOT MIX THEM WITH GRAPEFRUIT JUICE. YOU COULD DIE VERY EASILY.

what have you taken so far?

 

[Thomas29]

Like i said i been doing this mix everyday for four years huge tolerance to BENZOS AND OPIOIDS only new thing is Adding Loperamde is it pointless i know it's dangerous as fuck if it were to cross the blood brain barrier.

 

[Jabberwocky]

leave the loperamide out.

 

[Thomas29]

im just smoking weed on my methadone and usual benzos..... lol. I just wanna get Rid of Cravings for Opioids otherwise whats the Point of being on methadone like you said it's dangerous as fuck i agree stayed away for four years until i got on it. Like I have took 100-110 mg and that has got rid of the cravings my friend sells me his take homes but it will take me another 6 Months for my Clinic to get me there.

 

[Thomas29]

Yeah I was thinking that i should keep Loperamide for Emergency missed doses or some since it can fuck with the heart cause parkinsons and is unpredictable when crossing the blood brain barrier and i read people have died on it can anyone elaborate what else they took or what to type in the search function like Loperamide Overdose Blue User Memorials???

 

[Jabberwocky]

unfortunately my friend the cravings will never truly be satisfied with methadone if you want my honest opinion - they will be after a period of time.

i would personally keep the loperamide in case you run out of methadone or for some other reason to at least stave away some of the withdrawals. loperamide doesn't cross the blood brain barrier (well, actually, it does but it gets pushed out due to a complicated mechanism) however it still does effect the respiratory rate and can depress breathing further. if you're on benzos and methadone it's generally not a good idea.

have you tried subutex if you're going down the maintenance route by the way? i found that it was much more suitable for cravings etc. at a dose of 4-6mg.