• 🇳🇿 🇲🇲 🇯🇵 🇨🇳 🇦🇺 🇦🇶 🇮🇳
    Australian & Asian
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • AADD Moderators: Tronica

40-H Furanone = GHB???

J

JipTravolta

Bluelighter
Joined
Oct 18, 2001
Messages
145
Location
Sydney, Australia
Everyone out there in NSW, I recommend you pick up a copy of 3dWorld
In the Drug essential guide, there is a little paragraph about Sextacy, and the two different substances being marketed as such. The first of course, is mdma and viagra, while the second (the reporter says) is a 'herbal' aphrodisiac currently unscheduled and being sold online and in health food shops.
It's chemical name is 40-H Furanone (if I remember correctly), and apparently it metabolises itself into GHB in the body. It is supposed to be used as a sex aid because it improves the bodies production of something (I forget) etc etc, but what I really wanna know is, anybody else know anything about this?
Pick up a copy of 3d and check it out.
 
2(3H) Furanone di-hydro is the name of GBL... so it may be relative of GBL... but that would mean the analogue laws would cover it as well. maybe 'they' just havent caught on yet???
M
 
If they haven't caught up it would only be a matter of time now......
I guess time will tell.
 
Hmmm... I don't think it would be 40-H.. Maybe it's 4H...
It's too late to go into details, but I have no doubt some boffin will able to shed a bit more light on it.
 
I guess I'm that boffin ;)
This subject has been raised here a couple of weeks ago.
4-OH -2- furanone is SIMILAR to GBL which as mentioned is 2-dihydro furanone. GBL of course metabolises into GHB, and the same is thought to happen with 4-OH-2-furanone
sextacy.gif

sextacy -New rave drug?
Sextacy
 
How recent is the article? Did it appear about the same time as our thread or just after? I'm wondering if they're getting easy stories out of us...
BigTrancer ;)
 
Well it had to happen sometime. And let's face it, there is so much factual fat here that should be sent to a wider audience.
But it would be nice to see someone shine the BL badge and give us a mention occasionally ;)
If one law was passed regarding mass media, it should be that all statements require to be referenced. Just a little line on the bottom would be nice; mmm...nothing like a line on the bottom :D
 
That way we could see how thoroughly the journalist actually researched the article (if all the information for an article was taken from multiple sources or a single source, and/or if the sources were authoritative). That's in a broader sense, I mean. It would be good to be able to figure out if the person reporting the story and/or expressing an opinion really knows what they're talking about, or if they pasted the article from somewhere else for an easy buck. And, the people who contributed the information would get credit.
BigTrancer :)
 
Cheers guys, thanks for clearing that up! phase_dancer, your the brainiest boffin on bluelight (mmm, alliteration). I guess the only thing to do now is hit up my local health food shop for some imports before it gets scheduled. Could be very useful for comedown sex now my supply of 1.4b has dried up. Don't think I'd take it pre-clubbing though.
Very interesting indeed, I wonder if that 'horny goat weed'aphrodisiac that's been marketed heaps lately is related to GBL/HB etc...
 
So could I just confirm..
if one were to injest the 40-H Furanone or whatever, it would have the same or similar effects to GHB?
 
^^^
The answer would be: Eventually, yes. It would take a while (just like 1,4 butanediol does) for it to be converted into GHB then GABA, so it would work. I'm thinking that it would also affect you for longer due to it having to be metabolised through a few different steps.
 
mutant, I think you could assume it would, but until someone does the work and establishes that this or something else is the metabolic path, then it can't be confirmed. I guess taking it would give some indications. It's quite possible 4-OH-2-furanone isn't metabolised into GBL. Maybe it is metabolised into another active "GHB like" compound.
Most analogue compounds mentioned by "synaptic pioneers" are less active than GHB itself, and others produce physical discomfort, although 4-OH-valerate and trans-4-OH-crotonic acid are reported to be more potent than GHB. There are many variations possible around the 3D shape of the GHB molecule, some of which could be very potent.
http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/mab.dabd.html
http://rhodium.ws/chemistry/4-methyl-ghb.html
(see bioassay 1/2 way down page)
Until things such as metabolic pathways are known, caution should always be applied to any G related compounds, even those sold in health shops.
 
Just a suggestion but perhaps one of us should email the person concerned and let them know to include a 'line at the bottom' to thank BL. I'm sure they source more than just bluelight though, to do any less would be shoddy journalism!
I'll put my hand up to email them as tactfully as poss.
I'd say the fact that not all the intricacies are included (like for the abovementioned article) is due to the assumed attention spans and scientific knowledge of the mag's demographic...but that's just a guess.
I seriously doubt it's about quick stories and easy bucks...again, just a guess.
Since most stories/ threads on BL originate elsewhere the link/credit often bybasses BL, which i agree, it probably shouldn't.
I'm off to find Frankie now.
[ 07 November 2002: Message edited by: Milkybar ]
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top