maybe i react to drugs differently, i dunno... but all the 4-Ho-whatevers seem like a complete waste of time to me. Some are interesting at best and on the upside they have CEVs while the 5meos only create phosphines BUT personally I prefer the simple n,n-alkylated ones like dmt. and the 5meos atleast can come close to the euphoria of their counterparts are really potent and cheap, but the 4-hos just seem weak n dull in effects, are very unstable molecularly and are more expensive. but again this is just IMO. i think just plain DALT would b the best