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4-subs-DALTs

Phener

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Can't remember did shulgin mention 4-OH-DALT or esters of etc?

Seems logical next step, if 5-meo-dalt is so soft and cudly 4-subst's could be good?
 
I read an article about an interview with Shulgin (informal, the guy wasn't a reporter and just ended up browsing his lab and chatting) and Shulgin mentioned working with stuff like DALT and MALT, so I'm assuming he's done about the same with the usual other substitutions. We'll see it all in his final book.
 
There is one vendor that I know of currently in stock with 4-AcO-DALT, so it has been done.

Id definitely like to see what info pops up about it.
 
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it's been tried upto 40mg or more i think with very very mild effects
 
Not surprising given it's a DALT. Seems like it SHOULD be alot more interesting than 5meo-dalt at the right does though.
 
maybe i react to drugs differently, i dunno... but all the 4-Ho-whatevers seem like a complete waste of time to me. Some are interesting at best and on the upside they have CEVs while the 5meos only create phosphines BUT personally I prefer the simple n,n-alkylated ones like dmt. and the 5meos atleast can come close to the euphoria of their counterparts are really potent and cheap, but the 4-hos just seem weak n dull in effects, are very unstable molecularly and are more expensive. but again this is just IMO. i think just plain DALT would b the best
 
I did. Originally I thought it was the shiznit. Then the vendor I was getting it from went bust and a year later I started ordering it from another and it was completely different-weak and lame. I thought it was just me, like my neurochem changed and i was reacting to it weird. Then I ordered some 5meoMIPT and that was what I was getting originally. I've since tried 4-ho-dipt,4-ho-met,4-ho-det aswell and didnt care for either of em
 
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Heard a whisper that I may be lucky enough to receive a sample of 4-AcO-DALT in the not too distant future - was actually going to post a thread on it myself. Will let y'all know if/when it lands. Have no idea what to expect from it thuogh, to be honest.
 
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