Opioids 4 Months Clean - Tolerance Break (Is it enough?)

[teological]

Hello guys, please do not flame me for creating another tolerance thread...but I could not find a good thread with regards to long tolerance breaks and the effects expected from opiates after its completion. I have NEVER been on a tolerance break that lasted more than two months. From the first time I tried opiates, I have never stopped for long periods...this time I have completed a four month tolerance break.

Used to easily handle 200mg+ of morphine in tablet form at once. Was mainly a once a week user but before I quit, I used daily for about two months. Now I am ready to use on occasions.

What do you guys think my tolerance will be like? Will the euphoria be similiar to when I FIRST started years ago (shivering in euphoria)? Is it worth it to take a LONGER break, say 6 months?

I am planning on using about 100mg of morphine (with the XR surpassed by melting in water and letting it sit overnight). As you can tell I am very exited and want some answers, NOW LOL. I can wait it out longer if the tolerance drop rate speeds up the longer you wait or something....

 

[Venrak]

It would be quite optimistic to say that 100mg will bring back the feelings of the first time(s). This type of chasing the pinnacle of experiences is one of the most common roads to addiction.

If you were at the pint of needing a tolerance break, your use was more than occasional, and you run the risk of falling back into the same pattern of use, eventually putting you back at square one; for this to be sustainable, you need to effect some clear modifications to your usage and stick to them. Actually define when and how much you are going to use.

Best of luck, and if you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask

 

[The Dope Man]

opiate tolerance never goes down unfortuniatley. after useing 2-4 times your tolerance will be exactley where it was 4 months ago.

morphine has a bad oral BA. try plugging it for 2-3x the high from the same dose

 

[tricomb]

200mg morphine ER? or IR?

Yes it's worth it to take a longer break. Everyone's body is different so some people will be rocked after a 4 month break, in fact it's often dangerous when people dose for the first time after a long break, it's how a lot of people overdose especially when shooting it. But I'm going to say no, it's not long enough to be "shivering in euphoria" and I doubt it will ever be like the first time you dosed.

 

[Bambooshoot]

IMO yeah, that's defiantly long enough as it's well out of your system. But unfortunately it will never be like that first *rush*, that's not saying you can't come pretty damn close under the right circumstances. As Tri pointed out there is a high potential for overdosing so start small and work your way up.
If you are not expecting too much you will probably be pleasantly surprised as apposed to thinking it's going to be amazing and getting disappointed.

 

[Znegative]

What I've found from my personal experience is that yes, after a month+ break, my tolerance to opiates does go down. But it seems to only stay low for about one day, and each time thereafter it seems to multiply as far as how much of opiate "X" I need to feel that 'glow'. You've gone four months. I don't mean to be preachy, but why start again? It's often very hard for people who have lost control with substances in the past to go back to using the same exact type of drug, but in a responsible way. I say wait longer, as it will be to your advantage either way. If you were to give it another two months, your tolerance would continue to drop, and just maybe you might find something else that fulfills you just as much without jeopardizing your life/money/relationships. I don't mean to say that it's impossible to return to occasional use, but for many it is, so keep it in mind.

 

[tokenname]

Hello guys, please do not flame me for creating another tolerance thread...but I could not find a good thread with regards to long tolerance breaks and the effects expected from opiates after its completion. I have NEVER been on a tolerance break that lasted more than two months. From the first time I tried opiates, I have never stopped for long periods...this time I have completed a four month tolerance break.

Used to easily handle 200mg+ of morphine in tablet form at once. Was mainly a once a week user but before I quit, I used daily for about two months. Now I am ready to use on occasions.

What do you guys think my tolerance will be like? Will the euphoria be similiar to when I FIRST started years ago (shivering in euphoria)? Is it worth it to take a LONGER break, say 6 months?

I am planning on using about 100mg of morphine (with the XR surpassed by melting in water and letting it sit overnight). As you can tell I am very exited and want some answers, NOW LOL. I can wait it out longer if the tolerance drop rate speeds up the longer you wait or something....

if it's been 4 months..
why jump back into morphine?
if you're insistent on using an opiate only occasionally..
knowing you couldn't keep morphine to occasional use before..
why not go w/something a little easier to kick?
maybe save yourself some trouble?

just because the monkey's off your back..
doesn't mean the circus has left town.
~george carlin

good luck.

 

[beengerman]

just because the monkey's off your back..
doesn't mean the circus has left town.

that's perfect.

 

[teological]

Thanks for the reply guys. This was sort of a planned tolerance break. Like I do not want to quit, because the opiates is basically the only thing I look forward to in my life and I can't imagine how pointless and lonely I would be without the thought of what I will do the next time I will be high.

I am thinking of waiting until new years now, but I really miss them... do not know If I will make it. I get so excited at the possibility of feeling a strong euphoria...

 

[beengerman]

New Years would be a good break. would give you more time to think about everything.

 

[tokenname]

... but I really miss them... do not know If I will make it. I get so excited at the possibility of feeling a strong euphoria...

i totally get that.

i miss it way too much.
it's how i know i can't go back..
or it would be game over for me.


better luck to you.

 

[Opanaking]

I would be careful with chipping. It's easy to end up right back where you were before. However if you do have some self control and limited access it could be fun. If i were you I would find a different hobby, something else that makes you happy. If it's only been 4 months and you already want to start getting high again then it sounds like your not busy enough. Even if you were just getting high once a week before, it can easily progress to the point where your addicted. Remember the old saying "Just one more time" I just want to get high again then I wont want to do it again. It sounds like to me you still have some recovering to do. Your going to be so pissed at your self when you wake up one day in withdrawal and have to go through the whole process all over again.

 

[chubbs]

I have taken hydrocodone daily for years. at a $30-$40/day habit, plus other recreationals...I have to find creative ways to come up with money. A few weeks ago I got to a point where I told myself "I have to slow down, start cutting back big time." (same for beer) Well, basically, I guess just the thought of 'slowing down' made me pick it back up even more on both counts. I'm finding where 20 pills will only last me that afternoon/evening until lunch the next day and if I happen to have a couple beers left over from the night before, I will have that for breakfast with 2 or 3 hydros.
---so Yes, if you plan on getting back on them just go ahead and get back on that bandwagon now LOL

 

[Coveman]

I have taken hydrocodone daily for years. at a $30-$40/day habit, plus other recreationals...I have to find creative ways to come up with money. A few weeks ago I got to a point where I told myself "I have to slow down, start cutting back big time." (same for beer) Well, basically, I guess just the thought of 'slowing down' made me pick it back up even more on both counts. I'm finding where 20 pills will only last me that afternoon/evening until lunch the next day and if I happen to have a couple beers left over from the night before, I will have that for breakfast with 2 or 3 hydros.
---so Yes, if you plan on getting back on them just go ahead and get back on that bandwagon now LOL

Im sorry but this has to be the most unhelpful post ive seen in awhile.

As to the OP: I don't think no matter how long you wait you're never going to feel the same as you did the first time.
Id like to congratulate you on your 4 months clean and I say if you can last 4 months then whats another 4 months and so fore. Your life might be 'boring' for a while but atleast you'll have your health and your money.

NP: Life is only as boring as you make it. If you don't put in the effort to make life enjoyable without the use of chemicals then you cant complain about it. Although, with that being said I know where you're coming from.

 

[BiggDirty01]

This thread seems to be getting further and further away from what the OP asked, so guys let's try and stay on topic...

OP, if you have the discipline to take a 4 month break (and haven't chipped at all in that period of time) then I think you are safe to use at your own discretion without feeling like a typical opioid addict (speaking from my own experience here).

Just understand that tolerance can catch up with you after just a few doses, so don't be surprised if you find yourself taking around the same quantity of morphine in a day or two if you resume occasional dosing. And definitely do not try using the same dosage in your first attempt that you used to use as that is the leading cause of OD amongst opiate addicts.

 

[teological]

This thread seems to be getting further and further away from what the OP asked, so guys let's try and stay on topic...

OP, if you have the discipline to take a 4 month break (and haven't chipped at all in that period of time) then I think you are safe to use at your own discretion without feeling like a typical opioid addict (speaking from my own experience here).

Just understand that tolerance can catch up with you after just a few doses, so don't be surprised if you find yourself taking around the same quantity of morphine in a day or two if you resume occasional dosing. And definitely do not try using the same dosage in your first attempt that you used to use as that is the leading cause of OD amongst opiate addicts.

Guys, thanks for all the supportive advice. It seems that we can all relate to each other in some way or another...however, I do not really believe I have a problem as the opiates do not get in the way of anything important in my life, they are a motivation, a something-to look forward to. BigDirty hit the nail on the head...

I took four months off for TOLERANCE only and was wondering if I took, say 6 months off, if it would make a big difference or if I should start dosing again. I did it once a week for quite some time (span of years).

 

[chase_in_56ace]

I have taken hydrocodone daily for years. at a $30-$40/day habit, plus other recreationals...I have to find creative ways to come up with money. A few weeks ago I got to a point where I told myself "I have to slow down, start cutting back big time." (same for beer) Well, basically, I guess just the thought of 'slowing down' made me pick it back up even more on both counts. I'm finding where 20 pills will only last me that afternoon/evening until lunch the next day and if I happen to have a couple beers left over from the night before, I will have that for breakfast with 2 or 3 hydros.
---so Yes, if you plan on getting back on them just go ahead and get back on that bandwagon now LOL

Bro I'm sorry but you're in no position to be giving ANY form of advice after blatantly starting your reply basically saying "I've been destroying my liver with $40/day of hydrocodone for years, but here's my advice.." At least you're washing those bad boys down with a sizeable daily alcohol habit. Honestly brother this is a harm reduction forum. Whenever I read your posts I find myself shaking my head in disbelief. Seriously, nobody's perfect, but how about dropping the class clown act and getting some help for yourself?

 

[tokenname]

^^
i didn't think he was giving advice, tbh.
but there's lots of lessons in there.

-addiction can breed creativity.
-but it's also super-expensive.
-just the thought of cutting back on your
d.o.c. can be more than triggering..
-sometimes it's better to skip breakfast.

my liver hurts just reading it though.
apap is poison..so is alcohol.
together they're twice as deadly..if not more.

Seriously, nobody's perfect, but how about ... getting some help for yourself?

+1

 

[teological]

I dosed about two hours ago. I was very excited, four months clean, no chipping and ready to start occasional use. I decided to go to my old favourite, Codeine. I CWE 400mg. Take antacids and then down the solution.

In 11 minutes (was timing on watch) I felt the first little wave of euphoria. That was about it. MASSIVE DISSAPOINTMENT. From then on I just had Nausea and felt like vomiting, no euphoria present. Now I just feel bloody groggy...damn it! Might need to get the stronger stuff from now on cos this was SHIT.

 

[A Weird Glow]

What I've found from my personal experience is that yes, after a month+ break, my tolerance to opiates does go down. But it seems to only stay low for about one day, and each time thereafter it seems to multiply as far as how much of opiate "X" I need to feel that 'glow'. You've gone four months. I don't mean to be preachy, but why start again? It's often very hard for people who have lost control with substances in the past to go back to using the same exact type of drug, but in a responsible way. I say wait longer, as it will be to your advantage either way. If you were to give it another two months, your tolerance would continue to drop, and just maybe you might find something else that fulfills you just as much without jeopardizing your life/money/relationships. I don't mean to say that it's impossible to return to occasional use, but for many it is, so keep it in mind.

This right here.