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4-methyl methamphetamine

wungchow

wungchow

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I've noticed that certain stimulants (mainly pyrovalerone) have a methyl group at the 4 position on the aromatic ring, which doesn't seem to affect the stimulant properties that much. I'm wondering if 4-methyl or 4-ethyl amphetamines would have the same effects as the parent drug, while providing a novel structure that would circumvent the CSA (if only for a little while.)
 
my guess would be that a paramethyl group would mainly change the dopamine (reuptake inhibitioning) and serotonin releasing effects of methamphetamine.
but id bet that 4-methyl on any pea-based stimulant wouldnt better its properties.
btw, are there any references for other 4-methyl stimulants than pyrovalerone and its 3c sidechain analogue (MPPP)?
 
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don't quote me on this, but i'm remembering right, para-methyl amp is either very neurotoxic or cardiotoxic, i dunno if the n-methyl would share that but i'd be willing to bet
 
A neurotoxic STP? Just a guess.

Pyrovalerone is quite a step removed from amphetamine. the Methylenedioxy substituent for example does little to MDPV other than make it look nice (I think) whilst it drastically changes MDMA/MDA
 
bydefinition said:
3-methylmethamphetamine is better than 4-methylmethamphetamine
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According to some Russian experimenters, 3-methylamphetamine is shite in comparison. Unless you back things up with references in future, your posts are going to be treated as trolling (I've not forgotten what several people PMed me with about your 2-benzylpiperidine comments)
 
I'll have a sample soon, anyone has experience with this compund? no much info about dosage, effects, any advice would be great.
 
Isn't 4-MA supposed to cause long lasting serotonin depletion and personality changes (despite the experience being uneventful or even moderately pleasant)? In any case you couldn't pay me a fortune to eat it, I will never touch my 4-MA and I am not likely to eat 2-MA either but that is a whole other story.
 
Isn't 4-MA supposed to cause long lasting serotonin depletion and personality changes (despite the experience being uneventful or even moderately pleasant)?
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This is what seems to be the case, but based on collected anecdotes from recreational users in Eastern Europe, not specific research.

ebola
 
Tried it some days ago, not as powerful (mg) as i thought, 100mg oral produces a nice and clean stimulation, more similar to 4-FA/FMA than 4-MMC, 150mg oral produces good and more euphoric effects, not as euphoric as 4-MMC at 200mg, let's say 150mg 4-MMA = 200mg 4-MMC, I thought that the different in dosage mg would be the same os other betaketones, IMO 100mg MDMA is like 200mg bk-MDMA, the same with 4-FMC and 4-FMA. One day before testing 4-MMA I take some MDAI + 2-FA, and three days before test 4-MMA I take MDMA, may I should have waited unless a week for my 4-MMA test.

I also take 10mg nasal for allergy test, and didn't hurt so much as mephedrone or 4-MEC

I'll wait 7-10 days from now with no serotonin releasers drugs, and then I'll go for 200mg.
 
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