4-MEO-MIPT - First Time - A Rare Insight into this Substance

[Aeon Psyche]

Substance: 50mg 4-MEO-MIPT
Expierence: First time
Setting: At home, alone
Gender: Male
Age: 19


The trace effects of diazepam powder remain through my perception for the day and may effect the experience slightly.
I was psychotic and furious before previously today and as I took my benzos I finally calmed downed and stopped thinking about stabbing people and found relief from my anger.
Then the problems I had kind off resolved after talking with my girl about stuff and I hope she finally understands the issues I had. But I don't want to elaborate on that further.
I mention this to explain where my mood has been today so you can paint a better picture within your mind of where I have been mentally earlier this day.

23:41 I swallowed my dose. Just chatting on msn. Doing my internet stuff Starting to feel this stuff come up in about 30 minutes. Perception is changing. Feeling a bit uncomfortable.
The more uncomfortable I feel at first, the stronger my trip will be. I can already measure the strength of my trip before I experience it.. I become more aware.
A tryptamine feeling overcomes me. But it's not a bad feeling at all. The feeling of empathy without the love.The drug penetrates deeper within my own psyche. And reveals...
What emotion I feel right now is unclear to me. Coming on stronger now. A feeling I dislike. Everything I perceive with my eyes is glowing much more than before.
00:23 Ok, I took the time to try and explain the big bang to someone and I kept staring at the screen in confusion :s I should do that while I'm sober. Haha.
01:48 now. Visuall activity is awesome. My soul is less under the influence of dimensions and so my visual perception distorts.
To many people talk to me on msn and I try to describe the effects of this drug at the same moment.
I'm in controll. No trip that makes my mind warp to further places but simply that nice trippy place. haha. I really like this stuff. Very enjoyable.
I have some nice closed eye visuals but I seem to busy with other things. The bodyfeeling is very enjoyable.
02:13 I decide to take a small break for myself and explore this substance further. Damnit. Low battery and I want some music.
Here I am again. Anyway, what I can say so far about this experience is that the trip is not mentally overwhelming but it does have a strong enough intensity to be really enjoyable.
It does not attach to the mind as much as other psychedelics would do but yet leaves you in an amazing trippy place. This is a psychedelic toy.
This is the first tryptamine that I have tried that in my opinion comes so close in effects to a phenethylamine. The 2c's I mean.
02:38 My thought patterns are really beginning to take on different shapes as they question whether or not writing this is important or all other things that this life will come down too.
I know the answers. How important is writing this? I think more and more. I did not think my trip was still increasing beyond this point. It puts things in perpective.
I think about what I can do or learn to become happier.
I try poetry for a moment but I give up. Do I have to little inspiration or is it that I can not keep up with my inspiration? The second one, definitely.
I just don't feel like it for the moment I guess.
03:03 I feel kind of hungry but decide not to eat. My stupid computer thinks it's funny to restart when I'm gone for a moment so some stuff I wrote is gone too.
I tried to meditate and only ended up tripping deeper. With no recollection of what I was trying to do.
03:50 Fuck it, Imma do my favourite thing while tripping. Watch malin's melodi :D I have beautiful insightfull ideas.
To abstract within my mind to explain with words but I figured out all the love I possibly can feel for her.
With her mind being the absolute. If I differentiate between her body and mind, her mind is the most complex. Her true self.
Even if I knew the smallest details of every little thought she has. I can only love her as much as her mind expands. And in what other way would it expand but in a good way?
I can only love her for as intelligent she is. And her beautiful body aids me. I want to double my dose but I don't know if that is safe or will possibly drive me insane.
04:19 I like this substance. Yet, I wish there was something I could do about my happiness. My temperature raised a lot. I sweat. It's supposed to be cold here now?
Technology fails on me now and then but my mind never does. My mind feels cleared up yet exhausted.
4:52 Malin makes me happy. And if my serotonine doesn't make me happy, I'll make myself happy using my mind alone. I don't need this body to aid me to love her.
Are my emotional issues resolved? Who the fuck asked that? Voices can be confusing. Sweet drug. I'm still on it and I can't wait to take it again.
5:02 Getting a little bit tired. Have I found enough lucidity? As I seek it but didn't find enough in my mushrooms. Can I go from psychotic to clearheaded now?
How is emma going to act? I'm confused. I drink water. I love water. Visuals are still present. They are as strong as I make them with my mind.
I bend half of my whole room as I perceive it. Whenever I want to by focussing. But I guess it would be more fun if it happened by itself and not by me trying to do so.
My muscles that hurted so much before from working out are barely noticable now. The pain, that is.
6:00 Getting a bit more tired. And more hungry. I am able to focus my thoughts much more in their normal behaviour again. I'm freakin sweating again?
Ok, I can compare the experience the most with a subtle dose of some 2C. So far I like 4-meo-mipt better than 5-meo-mipt.
7:08 I eat my piece of fruit (whatever it's called in english). I'm tired.
7:52 Just watched will & grace and when I'm watching the tv as if it is more interesting than my mind it tells me this trip is over.

I've reported about this stuff what I could. I hope this is helpfull to others and good night.

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[Beenhead]

Thanks for the report, please rename it properly, just post it here and Ill change it for you. It just helps people search for specific reports

good to get something this rare

 

[Xorkoth]

Wow, a bit scattered but it aided in bringing your experience to us, I think, in this case. Definitely the only report I've ever read that made this substance sound interesting.

 

[egor]

Thanks for sharing about this substance, it may not be the most earth shattering material out there, but the new substitution pattern makes it important to get all the info we can on it. Have you submited it to erowid yet/ I've seen at least 1 report of yours on there now.

 

[Ham-milton]

4-alkoxy substitutions are pretty uncommon no? Have any other 4-alkoxy-tryptamines been synthed and tasted?? I can't think of any right now.

 

[MattPsy]

Cool, 4-methoxy subbed trypts have had me interested for ages (appeals to my sense of drug design, made sense to reduce the polarity on that 4-hydroxyl group that seems almost magic on the trypts, they feel so good!), yet there's so little data on them.
Pity you took it in the headspace you did IMO, but nevermind. Thanks for the report.

 

[egor]

^^I hold a bit more hope for its diethyl and dimethyl counterparts...

 

[Jabberwocky]

^ I'd love to try 4-meo-dmt! The MIPT's have left me so far pretty unimpressed.

Here's an interesting passage from Shulgin:

The 4-methyl ether of psilocin, 4-MeO-DMT, is especially appealing, in that it is a simple homologue of psilocin and it is quite stable. But the methyl group as an ether link lacks the lability of the phosphate or acetate esters, and it cannot be easily hydrolyzed off to form psilocin. The immediate homologue is 4-MeO-DET which is completely without action either orally or by smoking at dosages up to 30 mgs. The two remaining DMT isomers are with the methoxy at the 6-position (to give 6-MeO-DMT originally thought to be a minor alkaloid in B. caapi) and at the 7-position (to give 7-MeO-DMT which was observed as a minor impurity in the preparation of 7-MeO-MIPT). Some rat studies were performed in the mid 60's on all three of these compounds. A couple of years later the 4-isomer was studied in the squirrel monkey and found to have weak central activity (size discrimination studies with rewards of grapes, underwater maze running with rewards of simply being allowed to survive). These studies suggested that it was not very potent, certainly much less potent than 5-MeO-DMT, but no trial has as yet been reported in man for any of these three isomers. If this lower potency were to hold up in human trials, it would give additional support to the positional parallels between the "4-position" of the phenethylamines, and the "5-position" of the tryptamines. That is where, indeed, the action is to be found. All of these methoxylated DMT analogues will probably be pretty easily destroyed metabolically, so some parenteral route might have to be used in exploring them. Right here, in the above preparation, 4-methoxy-N-methyltryptamine (4-MeO-NMT) has been made as a chemical intermediate, but it was not characterized, and no spotlight was put on it as a potential drug in its own rights. It is the ether that corresponds to the natural ester baeocystine, and it probably wouldn't come off gracefully, either chemically or metabolically. There is yet another mushroom analogue here. The starting material is the bare tryptamine itself, 4-MeO-T, which is the ether counterpart to norbaeocystine.

The bottom line is, that all of these intriguing compounds are largely strangers to us.