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4-MeO-MIPT (50mg) - First Psychoactive - "So, that's it?"

reuters

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To make it quick before you have to read the following novella on my lovely afternoon trip, I just wanted to say 2 things:
1.) This is my first experience with an illegal drug (meaning, an eventually controlled drug), even a psychedelic.
2.) I am writing this report as the clock ticks, meaning, I'm writing each entry at the time specified.

./4-MeO-MIPT -verbose --username="reuters"

(sorry, I couldn't resist)

(anyway, to continue: )

Height = 5'8
Weight = 162 lbs.
Age = 16


~ [14-2-2007 12:50:22 (AM)] ~

T+0:00 - (12:50) Ingested (parachuted) ?25mg.

T+0:10 - (13:00) No effects.

T+0:30 - (13:20) No effects.

T+0:40 - (13:30) Still, no effects. but noticed slight disturbances in homeostasis -- momentarily light-headedness, slight unbalances. I expect these to be nothing but my brain fooling myself. (Placebo effects)

T+0:50 - (13:40) Absolutely nothing, I'm beginning to feel as if I received baking soda ...

T+1:00 - (13:50) No effects.

T+1:05 - (13:55) I was urged to finish the dosage; I added and took the remaining ?25mg orally amounting to a total of 50mg ingested. Though, after ingesting the remaining powder in a solution, I quickly realized that this power was not baking soda; it has a very, very unique taste to it. It's extremely hard to explain--It's not the taste of isopropyl alcohol (for those lucky ones whom have ventured to taste this wondrous solution), nor is it the taste of honey (as one would not expect). I can say that it reminded me of a prescribed medication without the capsule. Perhaps, something given to kids who cannot swallow pills. (You do not want to take this orally; it's enough to make some squeamish people vomit. The taste, while incommunicably horrid, is something you do not want to experience.)

T+1:10 - (14:00) No effects, I'm wondering if I will even be affected by this compound.

T+1:20 - (14:10) No effects. Becoming slightly disappointed.

T+1:30 - (14:20) No effects. Still disappointed.

T+1:40 - (14:30) No effects. I'm feeling glad that I actually didn't pay any money for this.

T+2:00 - (14:50) No effects. I decide to go outside (yes in the blizzard) and take photos of plants that are covered in ice. Yes, to answer your questions, I would have done this even without the "influence" of 4-meo-mipt--if there was an influence that existed. Anyway, back to the story. Nothing at all seems to be distorted even in the slightest of ways, the snow is pearl-white and the plants, well, dead brown (honestly, what did I expect? A rain-forest?). So anyway, I come back in from being in subzero wind-chills. I warm-up, wait for my glasses to stop condensing H20, and finally return back to this chair.

T+2:10 - (15:00) No effects.

T+2:20 - (15:10) (PLATEAU) Perhaps slight effects. I'm becoming hungry (perhaps due to the fact I haven't eaten since 2 hours before the original dosage). I'm not going to say that these are effects resulting from the dosages, but I have felt this way throughout the entire "ride."
Just to describe the slight sensations:
I have this awkward feeling in the posterior palette of my mouth. Possibly pre-vomit reflex? I have nothing else to compare this to, sorry.
I have an ever-so-slight rocking sensation. I mean, extremely slight. I can't begin to explain how subtle this is. As I have said, perhaps a placebo effect?
I have slight uneasiness in my stomach. Possibly due to hunger or just perhaps an onset of this drug.

T+2:30 - (15:20) All effects seem to have dissipated. I've eaten a carmel rice cake (shut up, yes it was good) and I doubt that will hinder any effects if and when they do decide to unveil themselves.

T+2:40 - (15:30) I'm going to go lay down as instructed by a peer. I will attempt to remain prostrate for 15 or so minutes.

T+3:00 - (15:50) Though I cannot entirely deny the fact that nothing exists out of the ordinary, I can say that I feel slightly relaxed, tired if you would. On the contrary, while my body seems to be slightly tired, my mind is not at all. I do not have racing thoughts, I do not, honestly, feel any different in reference to baseline mindset up until now. I can't stress the fact that while I've never done any other major chemical compound, no matter it's legality, this is an extremely, extremely subtle one at that. For any of you that have taken Valium (as I assume most of you have), I will make my best efforts to try and compare the two. While Valium makes you extremely weak, unresponsive, and generally relaxed, this compound does do that, but on a very basic, minimal level. I was not entirely expecting an over-the-top "trip" per-say, but I will admit that I am, in a sense, afraid to have a "trip" at such lengths; but, what I'm trying to say, possibly, is that I am disappointed. I figured I'd never be the one to say that while speaking of a drug.

T+3:30 - (14:20) In my arm muscles especially, I have a feeling comparable to 1/10 that of Valium. It seems to have the muscles relaxed to where it isn't all-too noticeable unlike the extremely fast "come-up", more what I'd like to call a "train-wreck", that Valium brings. I've decided to myself that I am already in the "come-down." While I haven't had any extremely noticeable changes since the original dosage, I can assure you that something, yet subtle, exists.

T+4:00 - (14:50) While leaving this slightly disappointed, I've come to understand something about myself. I also understand that this compound is somewhat rare as a result of it's difficulty in making, and I also see that not many reports were written on this specific chemical. I've come to better understand that my body doesn't react easily drugs (this has been confirmed numerous times.) So, in my best of interests, I'm worried that this could also negate the validity of this report in respects to the effects on the general populous (the effects on the public).

CONCLUSION: Yay! I made it without killing myself or vommiting! Truely a plus indeed in regards to both aspects! In retrospect, nothing in "me" has changed. I feel the same; I felt the same. There were no concurrent disturbances in for colors, images, shapes, etc. I did notice small vibrations in vision for split seconds. If I'd concentrate on something for long enough, such as this text for example, I would notice small vibrations and extremely subtle visuals. A comparable phenomena would be when you close your eyes as you drift into sleep. The discharges of the neurons in your eyes is basically what I see. Just for the record, I knew I wouldn't, but I did not experience any augmentation of sense, hence, synestesia. I did not feel any euphoric feelings. Not even for the slightest bit. I know people will tell me, "aww it's ok, at least you didn't lose anything ... ", well I'd like to agree with that, but that aqueous solution with the MeO was HORRID. I can still taste it *spits*. I'm leaving here somewhat disappointed. I've come to better understand my body and how it reacts with drugs. I've also bettered my English grammar, no thanks to this drug (ok, perhaps that's overshooting)! Though I am pleased that this particular drug didn't send me soaring into another reality--or plummeting into a metaphoric "living-hell."

Just to put it simply, I did come to realize a small feeling of euphoria but only at T+2:20 where I've noted the PLATEAU. Given the small amount of reports circulating, this by far is the longest time taken for someone to realize the effects after taking a dosage. As I have stated previously, it could be a direct result from the fact that I am very unresponsive to medications, I don't know ... I'm not a doctor (nor do I pretend to be).

Basically here, I'm just saying, I doubt this drug has any major, or even minor potentials on harming living things. What I experienced is nothing compared to prescribed drugs, so, personally, I feel that this was nothing but a waste of time. For this being my 1st official "Psychedelic trip" (yes, notice the quotes), I can say that I'm at least happy that it didn't go wrongly.

~ [14-2-2007 17:02:34] ~

[17:25:39] I just put something in the microwave and I noticed as I pushed the buttons that the beep sounds dramatically lower to me. Also, as it finished the 3 consecutive beeps were never that low before.

As a test, I decided to listen to the frequencies on a phone as I dialed my own phone number, I realized that they do sound quite lower. As a reference, if someone was just turn down the playback rate back by 3 seconds in a movie-recording program and press play. (3 seconds is nothing dramatic) But, things like my mother's voice and my own do not seem diminished nor augmented. I can also admit that throughout this little expedition I experienced today, I did have hallucination of the ears (verb please). I heard little beeps and rings as if the telephone was ringing, but in reality it wasn't. Something I though I'd account for.

EROWID INFORMATION:
Submission ID:60736
Author Name: reuters
Title: 4-MeO-MIPT - "Is that it?"
 
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Of aaaaaaalllllllllll the psychoactives in the world, you chose 4-MeO-MiPT to start with, one which even the most experienced posters here can't make up their minds on?

Why in the celestial spheres of heaven did you decide to start with this one??? :D

Good report though, thanks. We do need more reports on this one.
 
Good review of a commonly un-reviewed substance.

I know reuters in real life, and his next psychedelic journey will be farrr from baseline. ;)

I'm glad you at least gained some ground in experiencing another mindset. Hopefully this can prepare you for next time.

-bickoma
 
Thanks for the report. Better luck next time. If you want to have a hell of an experience with a methylisopropyl tryptamine, try 4-ho-mipt instead:)
 
bad start choice imo, start with something impressive and euphoric like mushrooms, lsd or mescaline.

Mdma is good too, but its not really a trip, but it will be if its your first time because first time is very intense!!

I have had the classics and alot of wierd research chems and all i can say is they dont really have anything on the classics.

Bar, 2-ce and AMT had its moments.

Good Luck!
 
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Excellent report, my friend! Thanks for evaluating such a rare compound. Looks like this one is turning out to be a dud.

Report triaged.
 
Er, actually, I just triaged it now. And just because I want to spread the love, here is the message I left for the reviewer (the one who publishes the report):

Xorkoth 8 seconds ago said:
*Please read this all. Thanks!*

:-)~

This was a very good and funny report. Uncommon and distinct writing style. It makes me really like the author and gives me a good impression of who he is as a person. I would say it was totally amazing, worthy of top honors, if it weren't about a total dud experience. But the fact that it is so engaging and interesting despite really speaks to its quality. I actually really thought about the grade I gave it. I think it should get 2 stars, not 3, but definitely 2.

Oh, also, it requires some de-tagging from Bluelight tags.

Thanks for listening! Have a great life! I love you!

-Xorkoth
 
thirty-three said:
are you on any anti-depressant or anti-psychotic medication?

thirty-three: no, I am not, and was not, taking anti-depressant of anti-psychotic medications.
Though it was my first time, I do realize that taking third-party medications while experimenting with a compound can hinder some or all of the effects--I guess, in the classic case, it could even synergystically enhance them. (Xanax + Alcohol = 8o)

Thank you all for your wonderful comments. And it's safe to say that this compound is relitavely weak, or at least, isn't amplified in the higher dosages.

My question for the experts here, I've read about four reports on this compound, all of which basically stating the same thing--it's a waste. I did notice that most people took a dosage in the ballpark of 15mg--the highest recorded of course being about 26mg. What I'm asking is do you think that it is my body that, in a sense, rejected this chemical and as a result, it had little effect? Now I did take the entire 50mg, and people's reports seem to convey much stronger side-effects even at low dosages.

My reasoning behind asking is that a friend and myself are planning to experiment with a more powerful, yet classic, psychoactive. I know that I should take the usual dosages for a first-timer, but in the long-run, do you think that I just have a tolerance for some drugs?

--reuters
 
^ It is doubts and questions like this that made me ask why you picked this as your intro to other drugs.

I wasn't making fun of you. Its not a good idea to start with an obsecure compond.

No one will be able to tell you if it was your body that rejected it or if it is just the compound, since no one knows anything about 4-MeO-MiPT. I would say it was the compound, not your body, but then again this is based on less than 10 other reports in existence on this stuff, so you can never be sure.
 
While it is not a good idea to start with a very unknown substance as they may be wildly unpredictable, the one you chose seems to quite benign and not very active (going by the few reports out there). So that was actually a decent choice to experience a mildly altered borderline psychedelic mindstate. A good taster/preparation for a venture deeper into the realm with a different psychedelic (though nothing can prepare one for a full-blown psychedelic experience... it will almost certainly be "WOW! I never thought it would be like thiiiiiis!!")

Be careful, these drugs aren't toys, and since you're very young, so I'd suggest you don't rush it.
 
I am postulating that perhaps since this chemical is so subtle and you have very little experience with altered states, you were just unable to determine what the effects were. A small alteration of thought can be hard to detect. But the more experience you have with altered states, the more easily you can pick up on these slight changes.
 
^^^ my thoughts exactly. I take it that the majority of those liking 4-meo-mipt are taking them after dozens (if hundreds?) of psychedelic experiences and in quiet/meditative surroundings with at most one other person.
 
These are all very true statements. I now realize that it was rather careless of me testing such an obscure chemical, but it was a spur-of-the-moment choice.

I can say now that after resting a complete 24 hours, there truely was something different about myself. I can't explain it to it's entirety, nor will I waste your time trying to; but I suppose now that I look back, it was a basic euphoric feeling.

I also do promise to be more hesitant on the choice I make the next time I decide to adventure with another compound.

Perhaps, if and when I become more experienced, I will be able to adventure with this compound again and better expound the experience I have.

--reuters
 
I also do wish to add something that, at first, seemed rather trivial, but now, it no longer seems so.

Yesterday, I did nothing out-of-the-oridnary, aside from dosing; it would seem today that sensitive glands on my body and areas around my anus are very sore (including the head of the penis.) The lymph nodes in the upper portion of my legs and groin areas seem to be rather swollen, while the lymph nodes of my neck and upper portions (arms, etc) are normal sized. Also, I have trouble urinating as it is somewhat painful as a result of this pain--same goes with moving my bowels.

I'm going to have to say that said pains could be direct side effects as, like I said, I did not do anything different yesterday that could have affected me so negatively today.
 
I can see the headline now: "4-MeO-MiPT Causes Infertility"

On a serious note, I'm sure they will dissipate over the next few days.
 
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