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Full-name: 1-(4-methylphenyl)-2-methylaminobutanone-1 hydrochloride
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what is with the random posting of a name and a structure but without any point or question or other data to make the thread worthwhile? anyone can post a name or a structure and end with discuss , all it really is doing is lowering the SNR.

this thread will get a temporary stay of execution for a couple of days pending something advanced or interesting being posted otherwise its thread closed.
 
It's obviously mephedrone with an extra methyl group, but as to the affects or dose (if that is the question) IDK. In the case of bk-MDMA they seem largely unaltered by this addition, but one example does not a rule make.
 
jamshyd said:
Thank you for not calling it Bullshitrone, at least.
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Actually, that would be an outstanding name for this compound. ;)
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I don't see the logic of extending the alpha-chain while leaving the ring-substitution. See also the epic failure that is butylone.

ebola
 
It's fascinating how close this chemical appears to DEET - obviously the PEA skeleton is essential - but one must wonder if 3-MeMABP would make a good insect repellent...

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I think it has already been made mate....

One way or another, pretty much anything with a betaketo group already sucks from the start.

Also why add a Keto when Phenylisobutylamine is already a selective norepinephrine releasing agent by its own?
This stimulant would lack of dopaminergic effects compared to normal amphetamines, it would be mostly a serotonergic-adrenergic enthogen with the only advantage of being less neurotoxic than common amphetamine analogues. However it would be nowhere near MDMA IMO so forgive me if I have my doubts about it's recreational utility.

(Plus it shares awfull similarities with MEPHEDRONE! Though the alpha ethyl would reduce the dopaminergic vasoconstriction in some way)
 
If you replace the N-methyl with a pyrrolidine ring you get a good dopaminergic compound. Still, doesn't matter to me as it's caught in the UK legislation covering cathinone derivatives, making it rather naughty here

The same thing though with a phenmetrazine skeleton and without the alpha ethyl would actualy arouse me...
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All good things come to he who waits... :\
 
vecktor said:
what is with the random posting of a name and a structure but without any point or question or other data to make the thread worthwhile? anyone can post a name or a structure and end with discuss , all it really is doing is lowering the SNR.

this thread will get a temporary stay of execution for a couple of days pending something advanced or interesting being posted otherwise its thread closed.
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well if you must know, I may be getting my hands on some soon. Just wanted to know what anyone else who is smarter than me could say something about it. I couldn't really think of any specific questions, so i just made a generic post.
 
always this rant against mephedrone, mdma is noway more "healthy" but people always speak about it like the holygrail.
Problem with mephe was only that some people couldnt stop themselfs from taking way to much.

Im quiet interested in a compound with "similiar" effects so this one looks promising, hope I can get some of this stuff in the future.
 
Torabora said:
always this rant against mephedrone, mdma is noway more "healthy" but people always speak about it like the holygrail.
Problem with mephe was only that some people couldnt stop themselfs from taking way to much.

Im quiet interested in a compound with "similiar" effects so this one looks promising, hope I can get some of this stuff in the future.
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agreed, if mdma was sold on the internet for the same price as mephedrone was, exactly the same thing would of happened.
 
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Still, doesn't matter to me as it's caught in the UK legislation covering cathinone derivatives, making it rather naughty here
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amen, cathinone catch'all sucks all those possibilities ruined because of meph-madness. having never tried meph it all seems wasteful but maybe to some it was worth it :\
 
alphabetalactone said:
agreed, if mdma was sold on the internet for the same price as mephedrone was, exactly the same thing would of happened.
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I'm not so sure about that. Though people no doubt abuse MDMA - they rarely binge on it for days straight in the fashion mephedrone was often used, also bk-MDMA had been on the market at low prices for years without issue, there was not so much as a single write up in english tabloids. its difficult to argue that mephedrone did not have some special je ne sais quoi.
 
^agreed, the mephedrone madness was a unique phenomenon never before seen in the UK and probably never to be seen again. When things started to get really silly in the 6 months prior to the ban, when it came onto the media radar and the masses of the general public became aware of it, it even had people who would normally have been very casual drug users, who would hitherto not have touched more than an occasional line of coke at the weekend or the odd toot on a spliff, embarking on mid-week, multi day, multi gram sessions whilst still going around their everyday business, albeit somewhat impared. Most people just couldn't and wouldn't do that with MDMA.
 
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The case of mephedrone made me revise my views on prohibition: perhaps, for once, prohibition can be a good thing? Imagine what would have happened if this continued?

Btw, Fnb: Phenmetrazine analogues are the only stims that still interest me these days. It'd be interesting to see research there.
 
always this rant against mephedrone
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It pissed on the party - got all the cathinone derivatives controlled in the UK. Without it the likes of methylone or MDPV would have been legal for years to come (well mephedrone and the literary geniuses at the tabloids that only make the whole thing into a leviathan).

Then again I look at my rants tonight and wonder with evidence like that, how much longer would they have allowed the horrific sex drug that turns nuns into porn stars, MDPV to corrupt the morals of this country (shot themselves in the foot they did. The News of the World would have loved to have published tales of the sordid states MDPV can push people to - the fuckin' alliteration syndrome is getting worse by the second!)

The case of mephedrone made me revise my views on prohibition: perhaps, for once, prohibition can be a good thing? Imagine what would have happened if this continued?
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Made me realize just how accurate Einstein was when he said "there are two things that are infinite in this world; space and human stupidity - and I'm not that certain about space"
 
It could be worse guys - you could live in Ireland. Here its not only cathinone derivatives that are now banned. We had a psychoactive substances bill passed recently which now outlaws everything that could alter your psychic state excluding the likes of medication, alcohol, tobacco, and coffee. Absolute madness. So anyone in another country experimenting with anything psychoactive my advice is .... keep it out of the public domain such as the meph phenomenon was, else your government could look to Ireland as an examplar. And we're known worldwide as heavy drinkers and partyers - how backward are the Irish now!!!!
 
fastandbulbous said:
Made me realize just how accurate Einstein was when he said "there are two things that are infinite in this world; space and human stupidity - and I'm not that certain about space"
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These bans and measures remind me of other Einstein quotes - "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." and "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

Stop banning things and think of something more creative and effective to do for society.
 
Society definitely needs a good ol' daddy spanking. Awareness media turned out to be lamely uneffective. It's sad that the few smart and responsable ones have to suffer the consequences of the uncontrollable ravaging stupid moiety which is unfortunately 'the majority'.
 
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