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(4-mec/ 100 mg) Experienced: Epic night of long distance chat and tunes

theotherside said:
^^Well I might have to send you the real version because I will have to edit it down by a few thousand words or so ;) Wouldn't want to hurt any eyes out there by having to read so much matterial.
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Please do <3

Looks like I'm getting some 4-mec soon after all, so I'll probably be in a position to write a TR on it in a couple weeks :)
 
^^I have never tried buphedrone so I can't compare the two. 4-mec does a few things well, and it lacks in many areas. It makes music sound epic...even more so than with 4-mmc. It also puts you in a bit more of a mellow state of mind closer to but better than 4-fmc. It lacks in overall euphoria and doesn't have that epic peak that 4-mmc does. All in all if 4-mmc is a 9 out of 10 for overall effects, then 4-mec would be a 7 out of 10. Worthy chemical but not up to the high standard of high that 4-mmc sets.
 
theotherside said:
^^I have never tried buphedrone so I can't compare the two. 4-mec does a few things well, and it lacks in many areas. It makes music sound epic...even more so than with 4-mmc. It also puts you in a bit more of a mellow state of mind closer to but better than 4-fmc. It lacks in overall euphoria and doesn't have that epic peak that 4-mmc does. All in all if 4-mmc is a 9 out of 10 for overall effects, then 4-mec would be a 7 out of 10. Worthy chemical but not up to the high standard of high that 4-mmc sets.
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whats dosing like for naive 4-mmc people, and whats the better roa
 
I'm not sure what dosing would be like for naive 4-mmc people but I know the best ROA is oral. If you are not acquanted with 4-mmc I would start with a low oral dose of 4-mec and work your way up. Better to be safe than sorry.
 
BananasAndOranges said:
whats dosing like for naive 4-mmc people, and whats the better roa
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Orally is the way to go for a longer smoother ride with less fiending. Insufflation will give more of a euphoric rush (but not on the same level as 4-mmc). Although I did plenty of 4-mmc back in the day, I haven't had any for over six months so I have no tolerance and I would say it requires twice as much for a similar effect, so 150 to 200 mg insufflated and 250 to 350mg orally. I have noticed that it appears more stimulating than 4-mmc, but this may be because of the higher doses involved. My personal way is half orally and half snorted so the oral dose starts to kick in as the nasal dose is plateauing. It is likely that you will redose at least once if there are no distractions.
 
will give results on this and fluroamp in a few days.....todays been icky. Should I worry about feeling like shit and vomiting after this?
 
I didn't vomit but the next day was a little rough. Felt depleted more than I should have from only moving through a gram. Make sure and write up a trip report including after effects.
 
i recently tried about 200mg of this chemical up the nose. it wasnt very special IMO, but i had been doing a decent amount of stims for the days leading up. still, i hardly felt anything. the burn from the drip felt like 2c-i/e and i actually started getting that mdma "headspace" after the drip went through my stomach. still it was light.

sort of like a very very light smooth roll with not too much euphoria and even less stimulation. however still more recreational potential than say MDAI. definitely not much rush at all.

but thats my subjective viewpoints from my trials, and for all i know it wasnt even 4mec, but i did get it from a reputable source.
 
at higher doses it actually became very nice. not a 4mmc replacement, possibly a mdma replacement though,especially if mixed with a little stimulant.

i didnt require doses as high as you and i also had a super high tolerance, but maybe my stuff was cut or who knows.

it was very very MDA-like, with a tad less stimulation, and less visual psychedelia. not much rush.
 
^^Yeah that is what was weird. At 315mgs it became a different beast...not much stimulation but beautiful closed eyes(with lots of pot of course) and music was flowing through my body with electric currents of positivity. Never had MDA myself but 4-mec at the 300mg range ranks higher than 6-APB for me.
 
sackynut said:
at higher doses it actually became very nice. not a 4mmc replacement, possibly a mdma replacement though,especially if mixed with a little stimulant.

i didnt require doses as high as you and i also had a super high tolerance, but maybe my stuff was cut or who knows.

it was very very MDA-like, with a tad less stimulation, and less visual psychedelia. not much rush.
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so Any kind of stimulant including mamp and damp or mixed amp would go well with it or what?
 
BananasAndOranges said:
so Any kind of stimulant including mamp and damp or mixed amp would go well with it or what?
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You probably wouldn't want another stimulant, it is quite stimmy on its own, think no sleep for six or seven hours from the last dose if you've gone up to 500 mg in total (which you will). On the other hand mdai works well with it as it boosts the serotonin side.
 
its totally possible what i got wasnt 4mec but im pretty sure it was and we seem to have pretty similar views on its effects.

i actually slept decently about 3 hours after my last dose without any help from benzos, which i could not say ive done on 4mmc, without the use benzos.

its decently stimmy on its own, but I felt it was much more in the head, more serotonergic, not nearly as "cracked out" as 4mmc, but definitely stimmy.

not sure how amp would mix with it, id probably try d-amp before methamp.

a friend of mine mixed it with a little bit of 4fa, but im waiting to hear back about how much and what he thought of the experience.

after an oral dose it took maybe 10-15 to kick in on an empty stomach, after a nasal dose it was 5-7 tops. it all hit me in a "rush" at once, but it wasnt a euphoric type of rush like cocaine, or 4mmc or anything, just an all-at-once sort of feeling.

i had a lot flowing through my system that week which definitely could have interfered with my trials, thats why i posted in this thread instead of making my own TR for now, because im waiting to clear my shit up for a few more days and doing a real test on it. im sure its better than i make it sound out to be because of my tolerance and what not, but even still it was very nice!

definitely one to try.
 
^ mephedrone and 4-fa combo quite nicely...it is really a very good rush that I quite like a lot.

I finally got some 4-mec and am going to start with 50 oral and see how it hits me...looks like shards and has a strong cathinone scent to it.

i'm sure that with in a week or two I'll have tried it on its own, and in separate combos with 4-fa, mephedrone, and mdma
 
4-mec is a somewhat unique experience...it doesn't really compare to mephedrone, it is kind of its own type of drug.

Almost no body load, clean headspace, like alcohol buzz without the mental dullness. Huge pupils. No compulsive need to socialize like on other substances. Tactile response is nice, music sounds nice. Not super euphoric just relaxed and comfortable. People who love chasing euphoria may find it disappointing, but if you're just chilling out and listening to music it seems like a good alternative to alcohol.

I found it sedating and fell asleep easily on it...I did have pretty annoying vasoconstriction but I tend to get that randomly from other drugs also so I'll refrain from judgement until I have a bit more experience.
 
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girlygrrl said:
4-mec is a somewhat unique experience...it doesn't really compare to mephedrone, it is kind of its own type of drug.

Almost body load, clean headspace, like alcohol buzz without the mental dullness. Huge pupils. No compulsive need to socialize like on other substances. Tactile response is nice, music sounds nice. Not super euphoric just relaxed and comfortable. People who love chasing euphoria may find it disappointing, but if you're just chilling out and listening to music it seems like a good alternative to alcohol.
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this sounds exactly like mdma vs mdea as well, save the fact that mdea is more psychedelic in addition to what was said above.
 
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