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So a year late but considering the post is from a year prior and opens with the year of the events being written about...Yoy mention Korn, how long ago was this report written?
Sorry, I missed this question somehow. I can't say for sure which isomer, but my assumption is the one that was first banned for being too much funThanks for the report Kaden. Any idea on the isomer/s? From what I’ve read 4-MAR can vary quite a bit depending on synthesis route and subsequent isomers formed.
-GC
At the time, the information I had stated it was considerably less neurotoxic than meth, actually considered neuroprotective in some way. I believed the less neurotoxic part, was sceptical about the neuroprotective part.I had a number of grams of 4-MAR many years ago.
It is very smooth, very long lasting stuff. Has a significantly more serotonergic feel to it than methamphetamine, very calm stimulation. I definitely liked it better than meth, but the duration was a pain in the ass. You can sort of get to sleep on it eventually in a way that is impossible with meth, but you wake up still high on it, eyes dilated. The pupil dilation with 4-MAR was definitely more pronounced than methamphetamine presumably due to the higher serotonergic activity.
Probably worse on the heart than methamphetamine due to its more intense serotonergic activity, probably a fairly potent 5HT2B agonist, and like others in the aminorex, probably a greater risk of pulmonary hypertension (relative to methamphetamine).
If you want a *glimpse* of what 4-MAR feels like, large doses of the somewhat related compound n-methylcyclazodone (100mg+), when combined with a benzo to offset the edginess, can produce a state somewhat reminiscent of 4-MAR, minus most of the euphoria. Would not recommend this given the strain it puts on the body.
I haven't tried the halogen 4-MAR RC's for comparison.
At the time, the information I had stated it was considerably less neurotoxic than meth, actually considered neuroprotective in some way. I believed the less neurotoxic part, was sceptical about the neuroprotective part.
I'd heard that the cis-isomer of 4-MAR was the only drug in the aminorex series that didn't have some issue (aminorex, 4,4-dimethylaminorex and a few others had all been cut short, either in sales or development due to serious health concerns) and that the trans-isomer was no more recreational than PPA, but I think opinions on that have since changed.
Have you ever smoked Butylone or Pentylone? They are really only two that are able to do this. They said 4 MAR is no doubt that after trying few time had zero effect and guess that is another misconception. But absolutely MDPV and Pentylone are for sure and worst taste and smell ever experienced. But wow talk about rush....take standard Ready which actually smell very good to me. Smells clean and nice but RCs after being torched with Torch lighter to go vaporized OMG like sucking down Diesel Fuel out of garden hose. Girls I party with start chocking and cannot blame them. But it works like utter magic and keep doing it that is all you can smell for terrible reason for days. But 4F -4 MAR guess should be good ?I have tried the brand new 4F-4'-MAR coming from Nederland!!!
I have a 4F-4'-MAR gram and a MD-PVP, and a MDPEP, new MDPV replacement and I have tried them, I can answer questions from members who would be interested in the first trip report ever possibly made, but, in France ?? this is 6h57am and am so tired, but I'll be back later when I will be ready and really aware of how it works, cause I've three chemical compound, 4F-4'-MAR, MDPEP, which is a MDPV analog, and moreover, I have also some MD-PVP another analog, if this word can be written like that...???
II'm now going to lay down my couch ?, but, I will try to make a subject, when I'll have experience enough, since I'd just tried a shot of each!!!
So, see you later... I'm tired by now!!!
Have a good day américains members....
Please send some (even 20mg in a capsule) into drugsdata.org. It would be interesting to see what impurities are present and I don't believe they have even one sample on their database.Well I have been using pure 4 MAR no question and must say best finest stimulant ever made on face of Earth.
What is m/4-DMAR? Was this available as a research chemicals at some point?m/4-DMAR is almost identical in effect but lasts only 10-12 hours.
I wasn't weighing individual doses, which is partly why I told the story over 10 days of repeat dosing, something I'd never done with any type of amphetamine by the way - this stuff is really moreish. Oddly, I got it cheaper than meth (always got MDA cheaper than MDMA too). The guys who procured it, said they preferred meth. People aren't big on novelty around here.He wasn't saying he took a gram of it at once, but rather, a gram over the course of 10 days.
I was doing some reading on the isomers this week; I didn't know how many potential products there were. I only really knew of the cis, made from phenylpropanolamine, having only heard trans-4-MAR was not good.Interesting regarding the isomers.. Depending on synthesis route you either get the trans isomer or a mixture of isomers. The scant reports on the trans make it sound less desirable like you said, many saying meth is much better than trans-4-MAR.
-GC