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4-ho-mipt- first time- very interesting journey

high on stemz-nseeds

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My friend doens't have a bluelight account so he is giving me his trip report to post:
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This is my journal text that I left open, slightly modified.

This was kind of a spur of the moment thing. I was driving back from my nite class and decided, "i'm going to trip tonite! yea!"

4homipt journey attempt

10:36- cap of est. 14mg (13-16mg), slightly greyish, maybe brownish powder; taken on mostly empty stomach.

1mg loperamine taken due to slight diareah and gas today.

10:50- comfy, got the blacklight on, the laser fireball and some decent techno. i also got winamp on here visually playing.

10:55- not feeling anything indistinguishable from placebo yet. right now i'm not expecting this to be very powerful but I'm trying to let my expectations disappear.

10:57- hmm, i am feeling something slightly, that feels good. very faint. I'm just relaxing, reading over news and stuff. I'll lay down and enjoy the scenery when the trip kicks in a little better.

11:07- i do feel something. slight stimulation, and a stomach feeling similar to but not as bad as being on 2ci (which has been the majority of my trips the past 2 years; before that it was acid).

11:15- ok i'm tripping, but very mildly. i feel shaky and stimulated, not uncomfortable but slightly.

11:17- C**** sent me a nice hibiscus flower pic, its cool to look at. nothing is astounding or anything yet, just slightly tripping.

11:21- visuals are slight; the typical tripping stuff like slight movement and bending of shadows, etc. color is enhanced right now, to a nice extent but not amazing.
I love this song, wow. track 6 of paul oakenfold travels disk 1.

11:22- I'm going to lay back and flow with this a while; it feels good so far but absent in mental effects besides slight generalized anxiety which is easily managed and isnt a bother.

11:57- tripping. ah.. interesting... to say the least. nice visuals on this stuff.. more active than 2ci for sure... i dont need to go into details on how things look ;) swirling, melting and colorful.

(personal revelations details removed- basically about college and my life this semester and how i could have worked a lot harder at it than i did, but i didnt let it eat me up, i just thought I know where to better myself at now)

12:02 i wonder what brownie (my weiner dog who was on my bed most of the trip) thinks of me.. i bet she mostly just reacts to me. yes. wow.. tracers when i close the laptop are unbelievable

brr ive been pretty shivery in a twitchy way. not too annoying though, definitely, most defintaely worth it

12:12- lol was laughing right in brownies face /but not laughing that she couldn't laugh!/ heehhe oh shit

faces at the corner of my eyes, guys in hats in the messy clutter where the weightlift bench is... aaaaaaa. hehee

this is a good trip and would be fun to just sit around and say stupid stuff that would end up being really funny

this stuffs FUN and theres lots of potential.

i keep hearing noises, that arent assicocated with the music i don't think that kinda bother me, make me a little paranoid but nothing out of the ordinary.

blam melt shit affffff hehe desire to type whatever comes to mind psychedelic mindstorm black feet brains neon lights in my neurons. noises outside.. yikes. wow when i type fast my whole visual field vibrates like i'm typing an earthquake- i never experienced anything like that before.

12:17 i wonder if the peak is here or gone, coming or going, i don't know but time to lay back and let it flow

1:11.. well. quite extraordinary. i (had a nice time with myself.. very nice, details removed, this would be great sexual stuff but like usual when tripping it was hard to get hard)

ok damn this laptop is getting hot gotta turn it off for a bit.

!:58 computer back on, wow. i havent seen visauls like this ever this is incredible... 3d fractals layers that go,,, i don't know how to explain.. mental effects deep and there.. oh yea, i smoked 2 hits of weed around 1:40 and that is when this trip lifted off into a new world. haha.. its so fucking awesome i don't have any anxiety or adrenaline like i thought would be required to see the most fabulous firebreathing psychotic visuals right now.. hah.. damn.. the 4d visuals i saw in the ceiling... i hope i can remember how they "bent" tomorrow.. this is fucking amazing. my ceiling turned 3d and there were many dimensions and layers... undescribable. spots on my ceiling that are glowing with the blacklight are moving around, and some look like they are on the ceiling and some look like they are 5-10 feet up in the ceiling.

2:02 still goin good. oooh yea i confirmed things were goin great when i reread that sentence to see it flowing up and downn... hehe MAN. yes. this is... amazing visually and mentally. i just wonder how much the. (pause that lasted a minute as i got distracted); so u can see thinking is 1 thought 2 the next...

i still wont know the impact weed has on this but i think this substance is amazing on its own. i remember back in the acid days weed+acid was like a whole different drug by itself that was incredible, and maybe thats what kind of happened.

in the next dosage trial with this i might bump it up a bunch safe here in my room but if camping this is a great level, perfect level for relaxing camping i bet.

the processing in the brain is different. holy damn what causes these visuals, they are hallucinations not distortions; fractal patterns.. amazing. earlier i got freaked out and thought i could see bacteria on the inside of my contact lenses but then i found that the squiggly things were on the ceiling when i moved. time to lay back and let it flow~~~

2:30 well its still flowing. me trying to learn what the fractal hallucinations are, studying pure hallucinations are hard and strange but its a great sight that i could spend hours viewing.

2:37-heh i was thinking earlier, if someone sober came in here they would instantly start tripping. ahhh this has been a sweet trip i must say and it keeps flowing. but i don't want to be awake too much later due to our academic schedule tomorrow.

Miprocin. amazing stuff.............loosens consciousness up, in a 4th dimensional kinda way. i am glad i have no anxiety with this stuff but i expected harsher. i remember shrooms as having more body buzz feeling which i would rather do without. this stuff seems much gentler on the mind and body than cid or shrooms but i guess that would depend on dose.

2:47 ahh got to love track 6..... mmm that is the best work of art i have experienced this month, is that piece of music right there.

i could probably spend my whole trip looking at the ceiling and be entertained here.

time seems like its moving along kinda fast, but nowhere in this trip was there any timefuck like i remember from other trips on shrooms or cid or even the mild timewarping on 2ci.

heh right now im on the internet looking for ads. just ads, to see how they try to get people to do whatever. it was interesting for a half a minute then annoying.

2:55 hmm. i'm going to lay back a bit, fuck the computer for now

3:20- to add something on the subject on using binoculars in here, in this room while tripping and looking into the mirror with them; why the hell didn't we think of this before :) :) :) ??? (i spent a while playing with this and laughing). if you look backwards through the binoculars its still in 3d.

3:35- definitely coming down a good bit but still plenty of visual twists, but they are subtle now. more subtle at least. staring into the mirror is incredibly bizzare. a mirror is a must for trips. so is a sound activated laser unless outdoors.

345-those blue valiums are purple under a blacklight, it was fun to play around with that. they (15mg) are now on their way to my stomach and then brain. reading the news now, such as "university class bars student over poem."

brownie has been a little uneasy tonite, i think she knows i'm tripping. she knows something isnt right. hehe. the fun times tonite.. like laughing in brownies face. hehehe that probably made her uncomfortable. she stared right into me. then i put my hand on her back and shook her slowly back and forth and she breathed heavy like she does when annoyed, and i stopped and laughed my ass off at what i just did and i apologized to her, then realizing she most likely has no idea of the concept of apology and sorry.

4am- damn its 4. i still see trippy stuff. but its calming down now. partys over dude, at least we got some good memories to take with us. we discovered a great chemical tonite.. very deep and fun.

(personal stuff removed-i just told myself to be very careful about something i'm doing and to stop asap)

4:30- valium kicked in; a dose that would make me drunk-like when sober but its just mildly relaxing now.

i shut my visually and audiolly (? is there a word i could use instead of that) appetizing display down and tried to sleep. It didn't work.

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10:20am- i don’t think i slept but i may have been half asleep for an hour or 2.. but no i highly doubt i entered sleep. i feel a very mild headache and a residual feeling of slight stimulation that is very subtle. i feel good compared to what i should.. my diet of sugar last evening and no dinner wasn’t smart.

kinda wish i slept at least a little but im not really sleepy or too mentally warped. just feel a little sketchy in the head.

it was a great trip. i cant wait to do it camping because it will be *excellent*

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at that level it is, but miprocin blasts into full psychedelic realm when you go past 30mg. Good report.
 
high on stemz-nseeds said:

ok damn this laptop is getting hot gotta turn it off for a bit.

God I wish I could be more focussed whilst tripping, I'm guilty of being oblivious to excess heat my pc generates until a) someone else mentions it, or b) it's too late. I'll try a post-it next time.

Good stuff
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anjovis said:
at that level it is, but miprocin blasts into full psychedelic realm when you go past 30mg. Good report.

I'm a newbie to psychedelics (2xDXM + 2x4-HO-MIPT + 2xShrooms) and I'm really puzzled by this statement. Whats does it mean to "blast into full psychedelic realm"? With around 20mg I experienced aztec patterns all over the walls while they were breathing heavily and strong insight that made me laugh and cry. With eyes closed I experiended really wierd and chaotic scenarios, but I was not "really inside them" more like looking at them in a tunnel vision sense and I was always able to let go and just open my eyes. With my limited experience I just don't know if this kind of experience is to be considered an experience into the full psychedelic realm. What should I expect if I choose to up the dose?
 
While not perfect, THIS description of effects seems to capture the general levels of intensity for many psychedelic compounds that are similar to LSD / psilocybin.
Compounds like DXM / Ketamine work in a different manner and tend to have a different phenomenology and different levels of effect.
It is also important to note that some compounds would elicit very great physical discomfort long before reaching ‘level 4’ / ‘level 5’ effects or may not be as safe to push up to higher doses.
Quick synopsis:

Level 1: This level produces a mild 'stoning' effect, with some visual enhancement (ie. brighter colours etc) Some short term memory anomalies. Left/right brain communication changes causing music to sound 'wider'

Level 2: Bright colours, and visuals (ie. things start to move and breath) some 2 dimensional patterns become apparent upon shutting eyes. Confused or reminiscent thoughts. Change of short term memory leads to continual distractive thought patterns. Vast increase in creativity becomes apparent as the natural brain filter is bypassed.

Level 3: Very obvious visuals, everything looking curved and/or warped patterns and kaleidoscopes seen on walls, faces etc. Some mild hallucinations such as rivers flowing in wood grained or 'mother of pearl' surfaces. Closed eye hallucinations become 3 dimensional. There is some confusing of the senses (ie. seeing sounds as colours etc.) Time distortions and `moments of eternity`. Movement at times becomes extremely difficult (too much effort required)

Level 4: Strong hallucinations, ie objects morphing into other objects. Destruction or multiple splitting of the ego. (Things start talking to you, or you find that you are feeling contradictory things simultaneously) Some loss of reality. Time becomes meaningless. Out of body experiences and ESP type phenomena. Blending of the senses.

Level 5: Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measurable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels)

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