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(4-HO-MiPT/18mg, 6-APB/65mg, 5-MeO-MiPT/1,5mg) - Experienced - Simply Beautiful!

Volsam

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I was somewhat stressed and mad at myself and my life lately, an additional occasional stimulant use and almost no regular meditation had negative effect on me as well. Its been a while since I played music too. So I decided to invite an old friend of mine, who is an artist and a psychonaut, and have some fun!

The recipe for fun was:
18mg of 4-HO-MiPT
65mg of 6-APB
1.5mg of 5-Meo-MiPT added later
Music workstation, painting tripod, cannabis vaporizer :)

Two experienced psychonauts, at night, playing music and painting at home. %)

Decided to preload with Magnesium, Potassium and L-Arginine to counter effect any possible vasoconstrictive effects - worked like a charm! There were no negative body or mind feelings whatsoever throughout the trip.

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T=00:00 - Took a capsule filled with 4-HO-MiPT and 6-APB. There was our first time combination of this kind so I decided to keep the dosages low.
Sitting down, chatting and vaporizing cannabis, my friend is drinking a kratom tea.

T+00:30 - First alerts, slowly moving towards + territory. Feels soft and kinda makes you think of an ocean tide rising on an evening shore - the waves slowly roll in and out, roll in and out...slowly rising... Very nice and pleasant!
The body is slowly becoming weightless and my mood becomes sweet and somewhat nostalgic - I feel flashes of happy feelings and memories from my childhood and it washes me over with a shimmering euphoria.8)

T+01:00
- The developing is slow and gradual, very transcendent - at this point I start realizing that I can easily let go of judging and the feeling of need to be in control - I gently let go and start enjoying lazily formed grainy geometric visuals covering everything in a light web. I am at the valid ++ and climbing. As I climb higher, I start feeling intense urge to play music so I take over the keyboard workstation while my friend decides to go for painting. I really enjoy trips like that - when you can play music and someone will be painting correspondingly to what you play and vice versa - IMO it's makes creative juices flow really freely! :D

T+02:00 - We both took 1.5mg of 5-MeO-MiPT - volumetric dosing in ethanol. A while ago I prepared the dropper bottles for DOC and 5-MeO-MiPT and stored it in the freezer - really easy, quick and precise to dose this way.
Just about 10 minutes later - Wow!...8o Now we are talking! There is a roaring +++ and I submerge myself into the psychedelic trance music that surprisingly comes out very effortlessly - the dexterity was unbelievable - I felt really euphoric playing the instrument.

My friend notes that at first he was skeptical of the intensity but now he is definitely "there" :)

T+02:30
- I notice that a lot of times when the trip intensity is peaking, playing music provides some kind of a mental "lubricant" for me to "ski" down and I experience all sorts of transient synesthesia - colors corresponding to music notes just jump out of the keyboard and almost immediately become emotions and mind pictures.
I like using a loop station to produce music and I have enjoyed it a lot during this time as it let me literally build a huge sound with complex patterning. As I move deeper and deeper into the patterns I realize that patterning is another name for God, or God is rather a pattern, an infinite and ever changing pattern and even in it's changing there is a Godly pattern too - everything in this Universe follows the God's patterns!

It also felt like you can never be as good as God in creating those patterns but you can get very close and that's what we humans usually call a "great piece of art" on which the God is smiling at and is pleased with such creations - completely subjective feelings that appeared very valid in my mind and made me smile like a Cheshire Cat.=D
I felt hot and sweaty but it was a good kind of sweaty - psychedelic sweats! :)

T+03:30 - Still at +++ and enjoying it fully! :)
My friend is painting a very cool abstraction and I can definitely see that the 6-APB and my playing had something to do with it as the painting was very uplifting, trippy and heart warming to look at but it had a shadow aspect to it also, which appeared as a necessary force to progress the whole. It was great!
By that time I have gotten two psy-trance recordings done with various instruments arrangements and was in the process of recording the third one!

Sitting down for a cannabis break which shifts my visuals into the higher gear instantly.8(

T+05:00 - Slow and gradual coming down to ++ with a such a fuzzy and warm afterglow!..
Sitting down and talking quietly about the nature of Life, God, addictions, freedom and life choices. I make a remark that I am incredibly lucky and happy to be a human being - I feel like any daily life "problem" is simply another task for my ego to solve and it's totally up to me whether I'm going to stress about it or have fun while doing it - it's simply a matter of choice of what patterned circuit of thinking I would choose. The realization makes me feel marvelous! 8)

T+07:00 - Still at ++ and gradually coming down. My friend had to go as it was a morning already and he had plans. Meanwhile my girlfriend arrives from work and taking shower which starting to make feel horny and decided to join in.
I'm glad I didn't take more than 65mg of 6-APB as serotonin releasers are prone to cause a temporary inability to get a hard-on :)

The sex was great - no problems with getting up at all! It was hard not to finish early because of intensified tactile sensations I was still having. It went on for about half an hour with a fireworks at the end - there was a literal visual neon fireworks in my vision when we climaxed together! :)

T+09:00 - The appetite started to come back, there is a definite feeling of mind stimulation and a great mood elation.
We make pizza, get a few beers and watch Simpsons :)

T+11:00 - Still lingering + one. Took 100mg of 5-HTP to replenish some of the missing serotonin and trying to fall asleep.

T+14:00 - I am up and getting ready for work! Despite only a few hours of sleep, I feel really great! Like a huge weight was lifted of my chest and mind last night and now I feel in peace with myself, very calm, balanced and satisfied.

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Conclusion:

Yes!..:D A very good combination, definitely what I needed and one of those rare moments that I also got what I wanted from the trip. It was moderately visual, very heart opening and it tickled my creativity in just the perfect way, providing an outlet for my emotions to run freely as a music expression. Simply beautiful!

It was very similar to the other time when I took Psilocybe mushrooms with MDA - very good for creativity IME!
I would recommend this combo to anyone who likes a gentle touch of entactogen and a smooth trip throughout, make sure to prepare means for self-expression! ;)

The reason for selecting 4-HO-MiPT was that it's slow on the come up (could be up to 1,5-2hrs for me), it's rather slow in developing and it has a calming aspect to it. I suppose taking 4-AcO-MiPT instead of 4-HO would provide more of an energized and hypomanic trip which is on my list to try.

Next time I would do 90mg of 6-APB taken about 1,5-2 hours before taking 15-20mg of 4-HO-MiPT or 20-25mg of 4-AcO-MiPT. Addition of a little of 5-MeO-MiPT provides an almost instant pick up during the trip and adds additional geometry and "sparkliness" to this combo!


Thank you for reading and be safe guys! :)

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Great report on what sounds like a wonderful experience! :) Since many people describe 4-HO-MiPT as having a distinctly empathogenic character, I imagine that it would synergize intensely with something like 6-APB. Especially with a creative outlet.

I like using a loop station to produce music and I have enjoyed it a lot during this time as it let me literally build a huge sound with complex patterning. As I move deeper and deeper into the patterns I realize that patterning is another name for God, or God is rather a pattern, an infinite and ever changing pattern and even in it's changing there is a Godly pattern too - everything in this Universe follows the God's patterns!

I love this. The idea that patterns underlie everything in the universe comes up very frequently for me when I'm tripping. I often think about how things like chemistry and physics are based on observable patterns in measurements of mass, charge, position, temperature, etc.
 
Sounds like a great experience, thanks for sharing it, Volsam! :)

I haven't taken an empathogen in years now, nor 6-APB at all, but if I did and wanted to combo with it I have to imagine that it would make a pretty fantastic pair with 4-HO-MiPT, basically for the reason TheAppleCore said. I also haven't mixed 4-HO-MiPT and 5-MeO-MiPT, and I honestly don't mix psychedelics much, but I have to say that one does sound like it has the potential for a pretty interesting synergy... and I also suspect that for me at least it would be super visual. I might have to keep that one in the back of my mind, could be worth exploring one of these days....

I love that Cheshire Cat smile too.... Gotten plenty of those on good tryptamines before. =D

Thanks again, it was an enjoyable read!
 
I'm glad you guys liked the report, it sure was a a very pleasant trip worth repeating! %)

I kind of went back to the combos I knew after I mixed in with 4-aco-dmt.. Uhg that was a weird feeling. Thought the ups up the 5-meo would balance out the downs of the 4-aco. They were definitely just both present at the same time and it felt pretty weird.

I've had some combos that were not successful and I also felt that substances were pulling me apart. Mixing 4-Aco-MET or 4-HO-MET's with MiPT's is not going well for me, each one pulling me apart and making it hard to enjoy the effects.
The most uncomfortable trip was combining 100mcg of LSD mixed with 150mcg of ETH-LAD and 200mcg of AL-LAD - there was absolutely no synergy and I felt very confused for hours...8(

I had it in my head that 6-apb/mdma + 5-meo-mipt was a dangerous combo? Not sure why I had that in my head but imma do a little more research for sure because I'd love to give this one a go ^^
I did not notice any possible neagtive interactions but mind that I only took 1.5mg of 5-Meo-MiPT that time. Going over 5mg of 5-Meo makes me feel uncomfortably strung up and feeling poisoned or something like that, so I usually keep the dosage for it on the lower end and enjoy the it's entactogenic sparkling effects, especially in combos. YMMV. :)

Also, if it's your first time trying APB or APDB, please try them by themselves first to see how your body will react to it - there are numerous reports of people feeling pretty sick after taking benzofurans. I consider myself lucky as I enjoy them fully without any negative side effects! %)
 
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