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4-HO-DiPT - First time - "Everything in its Right Place"

Jamshyd

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Iprocin - First time - "Everything in its Right Place"

I had someIprocin sitting around for over a month and was itchingto try it, however I was not very excited about it since chemical suggestion and literature, when compared to Iprocetyl, made me not expect too much from this one either. Oh, was I wrong!...

The original plan was to take 20 mg of Iprocin (4-HO-DiPT) rectally in a solution. The high dose is due to the fact that I am a tryptamine hardhead. So, I added my regular amount of water that I used to dissolve similar amounts of other drugs (less than 5 ml). None of it dissolved. So I added more water, and kept adding to find that most of it did not dissolve yet. So now I have about 20 ml of solution with some residual Iprocin at the bottom. I decided that I will drink some of it (20 ml is a bit too much for rectal administration). I would say this made me consume ~8 mg of the drug orally. The rest (~12 mg) was loaded in a syringe, and administered rectally. Hydraulics where good enough to transport the undissolved powder into the syringe and from there to my system.

I then washed and sterilized the syringe and went on to take a shower. The shower lasted about 15 minutes during which I got my first alert. Interesting. I am “hearing” alien noises. The only other drug that does this to me during the onset is cannabis (though the effect is much more intense with that). By the end of my shower (T+00:15), I am feeling light-headed and body feels nice (Identical to Iprocetyl). Bt T+00:30 I was feeling exactly as if I had plateaued on Iprocetyl, save the alien noises. From here, however, things get radically different.

I look in the mirror (naked) and, for the first time ever, I see myself as sexually attractive. I typically have a negative body image, but I never really worried about it. However now I was seeing myself as sexy, and it sure did boost my confidence. After that I put on some clothes and moved around the house. This drug felt very bodily. On my desk there is a copy of Gray’s Anatomy which I had been reading and on the cover is a labelled diagram of the human face musculature. Very fitting for this drug! I am climbing up quickly. Something tells me to go and lie down. By this time, there are the usual Iprocetyl tracers/trailers/colour enhancements. Unlike Iprocetyl though, the grainy ceiling was bubbling (I wouldn’t use the word “rippling” because “bubbling” is more appropriate). There is definitely some sort of auditory sensitization.

Around the half-hour point, I was at a definite +++, but the uncomfortable body-load quickly (and rather suddenly) develops to a nearly unbearable degree. There are some significant GI disturbances, and I think that if I kept moving I would have thrown up. There is a very peculiar vibration… it feels like some old-model motorcycle engine. It radiates from the solar plexus, and so probably increases the nausea. It was rather stimulating as well. I was in a quite uncomfortable place physically, in spite the great tactile enhancement. And then came something I only experienced on 4-AcO-DET before: Jaw tremors – and I hate them.

These where probably due to what I call “the Olfactory Hammer” – this is basically a negative effect that some Tryptamines have on me. I experienced it with this drug, and 4-AcO-DET, and with 5-MeO-DMT (which I hate) it actually seems to be the MAIN effect. It also happened once for a short time with DPT. This is basically a sense of heavy throbbing in the area between the nose and the ears, extending to the throat, jaws, and head. It makes up for half of the physical discomfort for these drugs, the other half being the GI disturbance. Using personal vocabulary make life much easier :).

So far, I was thinking this is a horrible drug. This uncomfortable state lasted till T+1 hr, where things got radically better.

I was, around this time, listening to music to try and distract myself from the body load. There where some abstract CEVs that went along with the music, which sounded very “solid” and alive. At some points there was a “solar burst” effect like the ones I experienced with 4-AcO-DET. On my mp3 player there where many tracks by many different artists, and now it started playing “Everything in its Right Place” by Radiohead. Now I only have recently discovered that I like Radiohead, and this was the first time I ever hear that song in an altered state. I was completely blown away. I felt the music in my body. And I mean this was synaesthesia at its best! CEVs matched the music, which matched the solid sensations that ran through my body. These are not like the nice vibrations on the 2C’s that match the music. This felt like abstract physical “objects” running through the body – and it was orgasmic.

And speaking of which, now that the body load is quickly subsiding, I am at a VERY erotic +++. I continue to listen to music, and think about current issues in my life, with the “Everything in its Right Place” theme permeating through it. Very therapeutic. At this time I could move with only residual nausea, and no Olfactory Hammer. I took my copy of TiHKAL and had a hard time flipping through to find the 4-HO-DiPT entry. I read it all over again and realized that a body load is in fact one of this drug’s negatives, I just never realized it before. I was feeling increasingly horny, and could not resist the temptation to masturbate. As I did I found that looking out the window – the sky, clouds, grass, and trees, though barren, where actually EROTIC. It felt at times as if I where having intercourse with the world. I can also identify with the “Rubenesque” eroticism mentioned in the TiHKAL entry, even though I am gay. It is more of a bodily sensation, possibly one connecting to the mother-goddess archetype. As a note, I usually do not find my reactions to be the same as those mentioned in the P/TiHKAL books, but this one was almost dead on.

Orgasm was intense, with CEVs of what seemed to be two horizons continuously splitting. I can’t really describe it better. Anyway, not too long after the orgasm, my body decided to rebel, and I was struck with Dierrhea, which ruined the mood while it lasted. However, I then decided to go for a walk, and I was extremely euphoric. Movement was very strange. It felt like I was not really moving, but somehow continuously changing position with everything around me. This, too, is also hard to put into words. I soon realized, to my surprise, that I too, was playing with an unexpected ++++ with this compound. I felt like I was not walking at all (no disorientation though). I also FELT everything around me IN MY BODY. I felt the trees inside me. I was also able to temporarily feel how others where feeling in their own bodies. I could feel the birds and the cars and the grass all in my body. I seem to have been in a physical ++++. It was truly amazing.

When I returned home I had a meal with my parents. I was starting to come down, and had somewhat of a hard time interacting with them. I then went to take a last look in the mirror, this time my body was telling me what was wrong with it, and what needed fixing, and then I lay down and meditated on all that I have learned. By the 4th hour I was almost baseline but there was a euphoric, dreamy afterglow which lasted till I went to sleep.

Wow. This was a total surprise. It is NOTHING like I expected it to be, and it was very different than (and superior to) Iprocetyl. There are similarities, but the differences are much more significant. It is also totally different from DiPT. However, I am still enchanted by DiPT. I would explore mixing Iprocin and DiPT in the future. However, other than that, I will wait till I have a partner to experience it again by itself. The biggest problem here is the body load. Otherwise this one is a definite winner. Not a lot of direct insight or introspection, however there is this physical ++++ aspect and I know of no other drug which can do this. It is special because this is the second time I had ever experienced a ++++, the first being the opening of my 3rd eye during an idiosyncratic reaction to cannabis.

The first ++++ opened up my mind, and now the one with Iprocin opened up my body, so to speak. It had inspired me to repair it, and preserve it, because it is the tool to survive the harsh reality of the Demiurge’s world, and something to keep in good shape in order to surrender to a loved one. I am sure my reckless attitude towards my physical body will be replaced by a more careful one after this experience.



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Very rice report. I have also looked forward to trying iprocin for a while, having only tasted iprocetyl and finding it pleasant, but not a real keeper. Many people claim or assume they are the same but I have a hunch they're not.
 
Wow, I also experienced this "one with my body" on Iprocin. It was a definite ++++. Instead of what I get by taking something like mushrooms, one with everything else/the universe/beyond the universe, it showed me that I am really just like the head of a big corporation, and that is my body. I watched with a big smile on my face, as what I was looking at, became clear to me that 'they' were like, little workers, or "entities", all working together to create my vision, I was watching them "take a break" and relax, like they were just chillin', instead of building up the meaning of the letters on the TV screen I was looking at, I let them sort of relax.

That was my last trip, and most intense of them all. The first couple times I did feel very relaxed and also could close my eyes and see CEV's that went along with the music, and felt more emotionally connected to the music. It was like with eyes closed, I would forget I was in a quiet room with others, and get lost, until someone said something or a noise was made, i'd open my eyes, and was back in the room, with no OEV's on those trips other than maybe some color enhancement.

The big theme to the trip was, be good to your body, because you forget sometimes what stress you put it under. Its just like some jobs, when people get overworked and underpaid, and unhealthy, and the dude running the business either doesn't care, or is "unaware" of the overworking... After this trip I was so happy to have been "ONE" with all the little workers, like instead of having a big orgasm with the universe or a big ass hug with everything outside, it was like opening a special door where all the parts of my body could drop by and drop in with their individiual 'complaints', and I got to "hug" them all, and get more personal with "them", and having this door opened they seemed to reward me (meaning, everything, all the 'workers' in my brain also) with extreme happiness, and happy to be alive, and a relief of this long going depression, that has not come back since. I took the drug on a night I was depressed (probably the 'lowest' during that time), but I was sick of it, and I did not know why I was even depressed really, and thought it may give me some help in writing, and maybe some answers, and a "kick in the ass" if i needed it.

I'm not sure why I chose that drug, but the whole night fit together. I believe I had eaten some 'bad' fast food that night, and well, I do have a fast metabolism, well this fast food, 'bad' or whatever (LOL), just didn't seem to move through my system. I took (before I had my good scale, don't do what I did of course) an 'eyed' dose in a capsule, and the Iprocin I had at the time, was really fluffy and took up a lot of space (compared to what I have now, huge difference). Well I ate one eyed dose, an hour later, was not feeling like I thought I should, said fuck this, took maybe another 'half dose'. Not much, so, another full dose that looked like the same as the first capsule. I put on headphones going to a computer running the "bwgen, brainwave generator" program with a deep-meditation setting on, and seemed to either fall asleep or go unconscious for a while. I wake up, going from very depressed the night before, to having a big box of 'complaints', or more like, 'suggestions' in a big box in my head, even though I was unaware of this process, whatever happened it happened while I had the headphones on and was not conscious. I was the complete opposite of the night before, I was so incredibly happy I was crying (and this is something that just NEVER happens with me), I opened up the blinds in the windows, to let the sun come in, since it was becoming day light. I even said outloud, quietly "thank you". I wanted to then spend the day relaxing, and get to sleep. Well since the fast food had finally made its way through, and I was tripping hard, amazing visuals, sound echoing loudly, I spend some time on the toilet that day, making beautiful (well, anyone around the bathroom would have been saying, whoa, sounds like he's going to be on there for a while, or on and off) sounds of, well, i'll just say I got quite a "CLEANING" that day, haha! I was on the toilet, laughing my ass off, big smile on my face, tripping hard still, now knowing why I was tripping so hard (good though) and why the trip had lasted so so long ("slow release Iprocin" that night, i guess you could say!). I was sort of hungry, and thirsty, so either water, or a big glass of milk I would drink, only to be running back to that toilet 5 minutes after chugging some milk, doing the same thing, out it goes, laughing watching the room move all around, and laughing at the noises coming out of my ass. For some reason I would mostly drink water, but then drink milk, feeling like my body wanted this or something, cause once this "cleaning" of my digestive system was done, I was able to drink lots of water and milk, and felt very relaxed, and ready to rest, while the trip intensity was coming down, finally falling asleep on my bed once I realised the "cleaning" was done, although I do remember seeing some visual's and was still tripping a little that didnt matter, as the little workers were not going to be 'fighting' off the rest that I needed, and a nice break "they" needed.

Since that is the only trip I can say was a definite ++++, even though i've learned a lot on many many trips before that, maybe thought i've almost reached a ++++ here and there, this one was the "most intense, best" ++++. Meaning, most beneficial and life-changing, for a single trip, that I still have today. Although I do forget often, and since I have some new Iprocin, I do think I need to open that door again soon, as doing things like, staying up too long, letting an amphetamine tolerance build up sometimes (was Adderall, have dexedrine now which is a LOT easier on the body and mind, although I do not use nearly as much, I still occasionally take it for a dumb reason, I was never one to take it to 'get high' though, i've never 'binged' on these things, but when you build up a tolerance what a bitch it is to get going in the morning! - just 10mg dex usually does well), or smoking cigs even though I am a "light" smoker compared to most people who do smoke.

It seems very gentle, it is like opening up a door that "your employees" are very happy that you let them do, that you let them tell you whats wrong if anything, or what could be beneficial to your body. I think next time I take it, I will say something to myself maybe just in my head, something like here ya go 'everybody', i'm opening this door again, and I want you all to take a break, relax, and any complaints or problems, you know where to pass that information and its all welcome! Things like diet, lack of sleep sometimes (sometimes I am unable to fall asleep, when I do, hard to wake up, strange sleeping patterns lately), maybe a lack of "the right kind of" exercise lately, I think that door needs to be opened again soon for me!

Medicine for helping you connect to your body, to become more aware of the "power" everything inside of you has on "YOU" - instead of an awareness of the "power" of what nature and the outside world has on "YOU". Thats my take on Iprocin now. I think this drug has a lot of potential for people with any kind of 'abuse' to their body. Whether its the kind of diet you eat, a drug addiction causing harm, too much stress, etc. Many other problems I can think of that other people have, not just your 'body', but, your brain is a part of that too. I certainly was "rewarded" after that trip, and maybe a 'session' like what I had that causes certain behaviour changes, the person will be rewarded with a mood lift, a relief of pain, relief of whatever, by any problems the person has helped 'correct', or at least go towards that way. I am typing this now remembering how happy I was, and how that feeling alone could get someone to easily toss out a carton of cigarettes with a smile (if that is a bad particular problem for them), and I wonder now if this Iprocin has the ability to even possibly stop or help with withdrawl symptoms? It seems like I was showed that these 'workers' inside of me are capable of a lot, and I could see the long lasting depression lift it gave me, having potential for something like alcohol abuse, where a person on Iprocin who has this problem.. I could see them tripping their balls off, dumping out bottles of hard liquor or whatever, with a big ass smile on their face, and the person being rewarded at least then, by what I experienced as 'cheering' and this signal of being told "thank you boss!". Maybe several of these 'sessions', separated by a couple weeks or whatever, could really work wonders with this kind of thing... If the person goes back to their alcohol (or whatever) after the trip, on the next session they will be reminded again, or maybe told the information in a different way or something.. Maybe with certain drug addictions, where tapering should be done, while the person is tapering, but might be going through some distress, a "session" every x often would help boost the mood and motivation to continue..most likely if the person is tapering down and helping in any way, they will probably be "told" this and sort of "rewarded" to continue the tapering and to not give up. If they said fuck it and stopped the tapering, they would be told again how much better they will be and feel if they don't give up.

I see a lot of potential with Iprocin and body/mind problems.. especially now after reading others reports, also mentioning this body-mind oneness thing that I experienced. It is not like opening a door, where a bunch of angry workers are going to come in and kick your ass and make you feel like shit, it seems "gentle" in that instead of an ass-kicking, they are just happy to have this door open so that they can let you be aware of these problems on a more, how would you put it..."personal" level. You might know smoking 3 packs of cigs a day is doing something bad to yourself, but Iprocin is like opening a door between you and the little workers that have to work on these problems inside of you, and let you shake hands/hug them and sit down and have a conversation about it like they are people themselves..entities themselves..REAL living things, just like you are a living thing, working at your job. These workers are stuck with their 'job' though, they cannot just say, fuck this body, i'm going to go work for that body over there that takes better care of their workers. Its a great door to open...

Well dammit, i'm going to write a trip report on this, as i've wrote others and that one trip being the most beneficial. I will do this soon maybe copy and paste this and change it around, and maybe then just edit this post to a link to that report. But for now I must go!
 
Iprocin was amazing for me, yet not the subtle or gentle psychedelic people refer to it as. In a way, it was definitley not overwelming, but it was intense. I tried it once at 15mgs and was very pleasantly surprised by the intensity of what I thought was such a low dose, and I tried it once at around 30mgs. That was also very intense. I can say that there is a considerable amount of energy during the onset, which can be uncomfotable if you are just sitting or laying down. A walk works fine. Iprocin was extremely visual as long as I was alone or with one other person, but when I got around a group, I only saw tracers. The sexual aspect it had was incredible. It caused extreme tactile enhancements, and it caused an explosion of mind, body, and spirit during the peak of sexual experience. After trying Iprocin, I lost interest in Iprocetyl. I figure Iprocetyl is more mellow, and accents more of the sensual aspects of Iprocin rather than the hard hitting psychedelia.
 
I always see myself as a sexy man when ever I take trypts.
 
Excellent!

Thanks heaps for the follow up info too, appreciated.
This sounds like a very interesting compound :)
 
Re: Iprocin - First time - "Everything in its Right Place"

Jamshyd said:
I am still enchanted by DiPT. I would explore mixing Iprocin and DiPT in the future.

Yes, iprocin is my "foxy." I never had a good body-feeling with 5-MeO-DiPT, I just felt shitty. But this one, every touch was orgasmic. And I'm not too into combinations, but I too would love to mix DiPT with iprocin. Both DiPT and iprocin are probably my favorite synthetic tryptamines that I've tried.
 
Gold! I truly enjoyed this report (I suspect the sexual content is to blame for that) :o ;)

The idea of 20mg of 4-ho-dipt is still a bit daunting though. I confess to not knowing too much about this though, do you think it was because of the rectal administration that you encountered the diarrhoea?
 
Thanks for the compliments everyone :)

Mean Girl: Yes, 20 mg is a HUGE iprocin dose, expecially that 2/3 of it was taken rectally, it would be like taking 34mg orally! :S). However, I would not link taking it rectally with the Diahrroea, since this struck hours later.
 
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