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4-ho-dipt, 1st time, 17mg

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I've been really into phen's for the past year or so, mainly the 2c series. For some reason I've been intimidated by tryptamines--having built up an idea that they are more of a mind fuck, a bit deeper into the subconscious/unconscious and more likely to free up dark material. But too much 2c usage has left my brain a little frazzled and I decided its time to give some different receptors a work out.
Ingested 17 mg of 4-ho-dipt on a not entirely empty stomach, felt it coming on within 15 minutes or so, in the form of a wave of energy and slight disorientation. Also felt a bit of nausea (not too much) and wild body temperature fluctuations which continued throughout the experience.

Once the drug had manifested itself a bit more, my friends and I took a walk to the park to look at the Christmas lights display that the city set up there. It was a good decision to take a walk, because it gave me something to do with my energy and I felt that strange trippy floaty feeling as I was walking uphill, matching the upward trajectory of my trip. Up up up...

There was a lot of laughing and a drunken euphoria. Staring at the lights I felt self-conscious that I maybe looked deranged because staring at the blinking lights made me feel like I could easily go crazy. The cobblestones that made up the pavement appeared starkly in relief form, each one outlined perfectly. The walk home was even more full of hilarity and at a certain point I sort of drifted into nothingness--all the noises and things I was seeing were just a maelstrom of impressions and the wind whipped all around me until it wasn't really important to hold on to my subjectivity. This part of the trip lasted about 10 minutes, ending when I got back to my house. In the nice warm house I was still tripping pretty hard, in a way that's not dissimilar to a mushroom trip, but I was more in control of myself than I had been during the peak when I could easily have run around screaming if I wanted to.

About 4 or 5 hours after I took the 4-ho-dipt I was mostly sobered up, but still felt mildly trippy until bedtime and even a bit the next day. Actually, the 4-ho left me feeling more fried than most 2c chemicals usually do, I don't know why. And as to feeling intimidated by tryptamines, I think I'm over that because the deepness of these materials is more related to their ability to mobilize a greater appreciation for deep symbolism, identification with archetypes, etc. than any intrinsically "dark" nature of tryptamines themselves.


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Yeah I really doubt switching from phens to tryps is going to make you feel less frazzled.

For that try a combination of meditation yoga and cardio excercise while working out your brain by learning something new every day. (computer programming web design musical instrument short story writing)
 
thanks for writing,
i also got burnt from phens (2c-i) and switched to 4-ho-dipt to try something new
did it feel confusing to you? At least with 2c-i I felt mentally enhanced, endowed with power so to speak. 4-ho confused the hell out of me, like I was constantly forgetting and remembering something at the same time.
 
It's interesting that you mention you found 4-ho-dipt confusing, as opposed to the mental enhancement or powerful feeling of 2c-i, because my friends and I were remarking that the 4-ho felt so much less "intellectual" than the 2c's we've been taking, I even felt like I was losing my mind for a couple of minutes--although not in a scary thing.
I think too much, so getting out of my head even for 10 minutes is probably beneficial.
 
Sounds like 4-HO-DIPT is something I would like to try. I have tried 2C-I, 2C-T-2 and 2C-E and also consider them as intellectual psychedelic stimulants. I enjoy to play a multiplayers video game while on psychedelics (Continuum). The one I enjoyed the most to play on was 2C-T-2, it made my hits perfect, I could, I don't know, perceive my enemies moves and aim without concentration. 2C-T-2 makes me feel into things - partying, watching tv or movie and playing video games in Samadhi state-like, that has you enemies wondering how the fuck you can do Matrix moves like. And you feel so connected to other gamers, you keep starting conversations, even making friends on chat and saying funny things. 2C-I and 2C-E are far less interesting for this. They make me feel more out of it, especially 2C-E, it decreases considerably my skills and interest, thought after a deep meditation, it's a whole different story. Pretty much any psychedelic will increase your concentration and intellectual process after a good session of meditation.
 
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