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4-Ho-DiPT (10mg) - 2nd Time - OK

Hellbilly

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Story and Subject Background

The subject is a 33-year-old Caucasian male, 5’11” (180.34cm), 230lbs (104.3kg).

More details about the subject and how these reports were discovered can be found here: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=256006

This report occurs in the fall, maybe the beginning of September, some year.

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Set and Setting

500mg of 4-Ho-DiPT (4-hydroxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine) was obtained from a fine chemical supplier in Asia.

After experiencing some anxiety and panic attacks after a 4-AcO-MiPT trip, the user wanted to see whether a low dose could be handled without ill effects. Everything seemed okay.

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7:00pm

T -1:30 Ate some corn chips and salsa.

T 0:00 10mg 4-hydroxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine (4-Ho-DiPT) disolved in Yogi Tea Stomach Ease formula. Added a little vinegar to help it mix in. Sipped over the course of the next 10 minutes. Vinegar taste was nasty. Should have used orange juice.

T 0:35 General feeling of effects. Nothing definable, except some energy. Put on Delerium, Karma CD.

T 0:36 It's building.

T 0:50 Took a crap. Nothing noteworthy.

T 0:52 Wondering what to do? Put in a movie? Meditate? Haven't been following my meditation routine in a l o n g time. Seems like too much energy for it at this point. I think I'll bring the lights down and chill with Delerium.

T 0:54 Talked to girlfriend on phone. She's out doing errands, on her way home.

T 0:56 Last comment was only 4 minutes ago? Hard to believe. I thought I was on the phone for at least five minutes. Definite trippy head-space going on. No visuals. Music is nice. Quite a bit of energy. Keep having moments where it seems like a lot more time should have passed than actually has. At a clear +1. Could totally function in public on this dose.

T 1:12 Some neck/jaw tension. Only the most subtle OEV disturbances. Not even clear enough to define. No CEVs.

T 1:14 Put on Frente!, Shape cd. I think this is a very under-rated, psychedelic cd. Song "Sit on My Hands" is reminding me of the Beatles.

T 1:17 Girlfriend arrived.

T 1:34 Either plateaued or coming down. We'll see.

T 2:02 Coming down, for sure. Spent the past forty minutes or so cuddled on the couch with gf. Sleepy in a way, yawning, but too much stimulation to fall asleep.

T 2:11 So much neck/jaw tension. Applied lavendar essential oil on jaw.

T 2:34 Still buzzing a little, but long past the peak. Feeling a bit of a tension headache across top of head.

T 2:45 Ate some fresh mixed fruit.

T 3:20 Not baseline. Headache.

T 3:36 Took a shower. Showers make everything better, or at least make you feel better about it. Made an anti-oxidant, bedtime cocktail: 3mg Melatonin, 100mg 5-Htp, 1000mg Vitamin E, 1000mg Vitamin C, 50mg B6, two bags of Bedtime Tea (contains Valerian & St John's Wort), 1/2 bottle Miller Lite (couldn't finish it, tasted awful - I'm more of a vodka or whisky drinker). Overkill?

T 4:00 Some diarrhea.

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Post: Trouble sleeping, tossed and turned for an hour, CEVs finally appeared along with intrusive thoughts. Did get a few solid hours of sleep. The headache mentioned above remained the whole next day.
 
Hellbilly said:
neck/jaw tension. . . Headache.

Took a shower. Showers make everything better, or at least make you feel better about it. ... Made an anti-oxidant, bedtime cocktail:
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Trouble sleeping, tossed and turned for an hour, CEVs finally appeared along with intrusive thoughts.

sounds like you didn't have fun. I get this sort of experience with a lot of these compounds from time to time, but more with 2C's than with tryptamines. I have also found that set/setting make a HUGE difference. I can relate to your restlessness and your wishing that you'd meditate more regularly. When I take psychedelics on a whim rather than well-prapared spiritually (or at least mentally) then I tend to get experiences not unlike yours. Kinda vaguely unsettling and all that, resulting in mild to moderate muscle tension and circulation problems that leave me with a (sometimes stiff) headache.

For me, what works wonders as a bath rather than a shower, and I also go for the anti-oxidang cocktail, haha- Though I tend to do the anti-oxidants just after the peak already. And I do some breating exercises unless I get stuck in a headspace and just go to the computer or stare into space... Going to sleep in such a state is something I don't even envisage any more as it is too uncomfortable.... I just try to ride it out.

I have been getting better and better at fixing such trips though... I find that there comes a point after which all the blockages just kinda resolve themselves and it all starts flowing and the experience becomes rewarding.

And sometimes the most incomfortable trips have been those where the dose was simply too low... it gets me going btu not properly, and I don't fulyl break through and am left with an uncanyn feeling that I'm missing something and that all is not what it seems.... when I take more, the chances of this uncanny feelign resolving itself are bigger for me. I like to think there's a "sweet spot" for every drug and person... at that amount it's neither too much nor too little but "just right" . . . YMMV :)
 
thanks for the writeup
does any one else have any experiance with this chem?
thanks
 
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