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4-FMP - First Time - A Wonderful New Discovery!

Mariposa

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4-Fluoroamphetamine-First Time-A Wonderful New Discovery!

This experience is a few months old, it occurred just after the New Year. I took notes during the experience but have subsequently lost them, so please forgive any gaps in my memory.

I had the good fortune to experience this compound with a girlfriend, her fiance (also a good friend of mine) and his friend of many years from out of town (who I had never met, but was very nice). I had tripped in this environment on other substances before. My mindset was good, I had a good day beforehand and strangely, I wasn't terribly apprehensive about trying a chemical for which there is not much information. I was looking forward to an enlightening experience, and I was not disappointed.

I will have to make a follow up post with the dose in mg I took after I ask one of the abovementioned friends, as I stated I am working from memory and the experience was awhile ago. We all took the same dose to the best of my recollection and the purity of the substance had been satisfactorily measured. I had eaten a big vegetarian lunch, as I usually do when I anticipate taking a trip. (I am not a vegetarian but have an aversion to eating meat/flesh before tripping for some reason).

The drug hit all of us fairly quickly but, unlike MDMA, I felt ZERO nausea and came up very comfortably. I always feel comfortable around these particular friends, but the sense of empathy was dramatic. I found myself thinking about the people in my life who have come and gone. One of the most salient features of this journey was that I felt I gained a greater understanding of people and situations.

The friends who are a couple were feeling "in the mood" so they went off into the bedroom to do their deed. Neither of them smokes cannabis and the guy who was in from out of town does, so I made the suggestion to go outside and smoke some cannabis. I wasn't sexually aroused per se, but I could certainly see the potential of this substance to be a useful adjunct to a sexual experience given the right company and set of circumstances.

Cannabis tends to dull the feeling of MDxx class substances to me, and I don't often smoke until I feel myself starting to come down. Smoking really brought up the feeling of empathy and oneness with the world on this substance, though- not to mention it made the euphoria I was experiencing quite intense.

My trip lasted about as long as an average MDMA trip. Like the comeup, the comedown was fairly easy. I took something to get to sleep (don't remember what), eventually fell asleep and woke up the next day a little tired but nowhere near as chewed up as back in the day when I used to take dirty, untested pills. ;)

Overall, this was a phenomenal experience for me. I did a search and found no reports of this substance on Bluelight and only one on Erowid, so perhaps this is my contribution to history. ;) I had originally titled my report in part "Like MDMA, only better." It was almost as if the "magic" of MDMA that many, if not most, of us have lost over time was brought back. A MDA trip I took about 3 months later was particularly intense. Perhaps 4-fluoro brought the magic back for me? :)

I am no chemist but 4-fluoroamphetamine felt a lot more specific and "clean" in its effects than other substances with which I have had experience. Does anyone have any comments on the neurotoxicity of this compound? That "chewed up" feeling I have from MDxx was nonexistent and I felt no decline in cognitive function whatsoever.

Barring unforeseen health or other consequences, I would enjoy revisiting this substance in the future. The others with whom I shared the experience would, I'd imagine, say the same. I recall one having slight nausea, but it passed in a short time.

:) Cheers, and be safe, all. :)
 
What a shame you didn't oblige yourself and get in on your friends action ;)

I know this is your first time on this substance, but what's your track record with other Amphetamines? And how much weed did you smoke? I gather from your old posts you're quite familiar with the old smoke.

Good to see you posting in TR as well as everywhere else :D
 
Great! Thanks heaps for the rare report. :)

Did your eyes become dilated on this chemical? And what was the comedown like and when could you sleep.
 
Mean Girl- I've used meth a handful of times and Adderall and Ritalin here and there as a study aid, but don't care much for amphetamines in general. The high from this substance was a lot more like MDxx than meth. I do like the green stuff- that night just a few bowls of the good stuff were smoked and that is the only substance I use regularly, the treats are for special occasions. :)

Splatt- My eyes were substantially dilated. I doubt I would have been able to sleep if I hadn't taken something but the insomnia was not as marked as I have experienced from amphetamines and cocaine.
 
did u get mdxx type body high aswell, how was music ? Any jaw clench/eye wiggle? What was yer dosage?
 
^^ Yes, please - more on this!

I've since viewed two other reports of this compound on erowid (seems like they're just popping up now). 4-fluoro doesn't sound very psychedelic, but rather a mildy trippy and euphoric stimulant...

Can you elaborate on the effects a bit? I'm interested (as I always am). ;)

Best,

...Ad
 
Yes, nice to see a report on this. You should submit it to Erowid, after you've found out what the actual dosage was, ofcourse. :)

mariposa420 said:
Does anyone have any comments on the neurotoxicity of this compound?

This hasn't been researched as far as I know.
 
ER0X said:
did u get mdxx type body high aswell, how was music ? Any jaw clench/eye wiggle? What was yer dosage?

I did indeed get a body high like MDxx. Music was very enjoyable- we did it at someone's home, it probably would have been very enjoyable at a live event.

I will have to get back to you on dosage once I ask the person who weighed out the powder and placed it in the capsules. I lost my trip notes (regrettably). I can give an eyeball estimate from memory of amount with which the capsule was filled and I would estimate it at 100-120 milligrams. I will confirm this ASAP.

I didn't get much in the way of visuals of the kind I would get with LSD or 2c-b, but the world somehow looked intangibly different. No real open or closed eye visuals at all- more of a "vibe."

As for additional comments on the effects- it was VERY euphoric and had substantial empathogenic/entactogenic qualities. I truly felt "in touch" with the friends who also dosed, but they are my friends for life without the aid of substances. As I stated above, it was almost as if the "magic" of MDMA had been brought back, and this feeling somehow transferred over to a subsequent MDA experience several weeks later.

This trip had the most profound effects on me since the first times I had respectively taken MDMA and LSD. I read the older report on Erowid describing "flulike" feelings, but the body load for me was less than MDxx or especially 2c-b, which tends to give me dull headaches and backaches. I completely disagree with that report on all counts; my experience was entirely different and wonder if the writer of that report took something mistaken because the drug I took was NOTHING like that! Alternatively, it sounds as though he'd had a bad night and as we all know set and setting are EVERYTHING, with ANY form of trip.

(I don't know if the guidelines permit me to post the link to that report but it's available by typing the name of this substance into google and using your brain a bit ;))

Blowmonkey- that's the plan after I've done my homework and finished editing- this was/is very much a work in progress. :)
 
Wow this is alot different than the other reports Ive read. I had written this one off completely.

How was the erotic? Im assuming it was present as your friends felt the need to retire to the bedroom. Did they have anything to say about the ol' sex test? =D

Please do let us know about the dosage level Im very interested in that.

Thanks for the report! %)
 
NOICE! After reading the very few reports on this substance I had pretty much lost all interest in trying it but this has sparked a new interest. Maybe U were more sensitive to it or sumthing, perhaps I'll try 100mg insuff'd. Damn so many substances, so little money.
 
there's 1 or 2 @lycaeum and 1 @ "that chemical site", and 2 new ones @ erowid.
 
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Glad you had a good time on the stuff!

Mariposa420, I'm gonna change your title to "4-FMP....etc" for consistency and searchability's sake. We already have a few reports using "4-FMP" so I guess I'll stick with that.
 
A lady never discloses her weight, but in the interest of science what the hell. ;) Want my measurements too? (j/k)

At the time of this experience I was probably just over/under 140 lbs. I am approximately five feet seven inches tall. I don't feel like converting it so you can do it for me. ;) After some time on the Atkins diet and cutting down on alcohol use, I weigh less now not that it is material to this report. ;)
 
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