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Stimulants 4-fluoroamphetamine

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They were just confused man, you're not going to extract this out a random plant.
 
extract the amphetamine from the magic acacia and then put it in some glacial acetic acid and buble fluorine through for a few hours! presto!
 
Next saturday I'm going to an awesome techno event and it will be my first time taking 100 mg there. My expectations are high and several of my friends are taking MDMA which they only do very sporadically, last year was their first one in years actually (also at the same event).

Say I'm not too impressed with the results, and they leave me behind the others rolling balls would it be a terrible idea to combine with some supplemental MDMA ?
I'm talking 50 mg of very very pure crystal MDMA or half a blue triangle mitsubishi which may or may not contain MDA but has probably some 120 mgs of MDMA.
Do you think that would be too big a risk as it is my first try with 4-FMP, or could you traject from known farmacological effects that the combination may only add or synergize. That last one should be good but it can also be harmful I suspect.
Tricky dilemma...
 
It feels similar(ish) to methylone with less empathanogenic ( isthattaword?)/entactogenic duration of action & more of a stimulant action - IMO.

All in all nothing I'd be desperate to take again.
 
I have combined 4FA with MDMA. Took some 120mg MDMA about 2 hours into about 100mg 4FA.... nice combo. A bit wobbly, hehe, but nice. 4FA followed by methylone is also quite pleasant. The trick is timing... the 4FA lasts a bit longer but once it's peaked (after about 2-2.5 hours) it's pretty neutral, eiphoria-free. That's a good time to add the other compound. That way the time of the total high can be stretched to about 5-6 hours... but come down you must, eventually. I don't even find the comedown off either M1 or MDMA to be worse with a bit of 4FA ingested beforehand.
 
I have only tried this compound once, but it instantly became one of my favourite recreational stimulants. I would almost say I like it better than MDMA, especially considering it feels much cleaner and the after effects are not as tough.
The dosage was 130mg, next time I am planning to use 120mg and add a 50mg booster during the peak, to try and extend the empathogenic aspect, which, like Ximot stated, seems to fade after about 2,5 hours, leaving one behind with an amphetamine rush.
 
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i only got the chance to try it once, the dose must have been around 100mg or a little less. it felt nice and i could definitely see potential there but i think 120-140mg would have been better.
since i wasnt too impressed and wanted more after a couple of hours, i took some mdma on top of it which really blew me away! 4-fa seems to boost mdma (and probably methylone as well) a lot, so better be careful with the doses when combining any of those.
 
4fa - i liked it

what i remember is "party like it's 1999" :)

very nice, empathic mood and very good response to people (friends at the party mostly on weed and alcohol). i will give it another try definitely.

comedown ok, almost pleasant ;)
 
I wish everybody, who find this quite brutal stuff nice to try one day 2FA!
4FA is like drunk countryside redneck comparing to intelligent 2FA. Even, if you will shoot it.
 
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I was just asking myself the same thing. Sounds like an "other drug" to me. --->
 
I tried it twice: first time it was a bright white fine powder, second time a brownish paste. I suppose the second time was some kind of "base"? It had a distinct smell too, unlike the first kind which just stung like hell (second kind stung as well).
Twice a low dose: 20-30 mg. Effects were immediate alertness (after feeling quite tired), "easier talking" and an slightly uplifted mood (although the two last effects could be placebo as well).
No comedown, able to sleep when I wanted to, no effects at all day after.

I don't have experience with regular speed though, but I find the effects of 4-fmp very subtle and "kind", although that might be the case with regular speed at low doses as well.
 
hi, i often took this mostly from the same bag i got, always 120 to 200 mg. always oral... the stuff is 4-fmp, but just really felt it once the rest was none to a little bit stimulation. with my friends the same sone find it amazing some felt nothing...how can this be ? no huge tolerance is build up speed, m1, mdma all still is amazing...
need some help

regards
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Boosting works pretty nicely with this. Started with 100mg then have took 50mg every 3 hours. Pretty good staff.
 
What would be nice dose for shopping freely (I get anxious around people)? I have done 120mg doses two last times, and I find them pretty nice, but maybe too good, I mean I really don't need that good feeling, only making me social and good mood.
 
I need quick reply now please. I took 120mg of this yesterday 18:00, so is it safe to take some tramadol now?
 
^ It's going to be hard to get a good answer to that question, there isn't much research into 4-FAM.

I'd give it a miss; play it safe.

Well I took 300mg tramadol 12h after fluoroamphetamine and nothing bad happened. :):)
 
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