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(4-Fluoroamphetamine/100mg's) Inexperienced:Purephoria in a Powder

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On a day like any other, I decided to give 4-Fluoroamphetamine a try. I am experienced with many entactogens such as Mephedrone/Methylone/6-APB and of course MDMA. After doing a solid amount of research as to what dose would produce my desired effects I chose to do a 100mg bomb. There are many reports out about this chemical but I felt like it deserves another one.


I took the 100mg's on an almost empty stomach and went about my normal morning time activities. It took a little longer to kick in than I expected but this could have been because of the breakfast bar I had eaten 2 hours prior. The first alerts of an amphetamine came on around the hour and a half mark. Slight tingles on my head and arms, slightly increased heartrate as well as a wonderful ego boost that reminded me of a very small dose of cocaine. These effects caused me to do a little house cleaning and call my mother whom I hadn't talked to in almost a month. Great conversation much like the kind I have during the first few hours of a mephedrone experience.


At around the 3 hour mark is when the "good" stuff started. While I was reading through a certain online site, I felt a euphoria begin in my feet. It began to creep up my legs and caused me to shiver with excitement. I am big on comparing substances to each other so I would equate this euphoria more to the mephedrone "style". Confidence mixed with an underlying love for mankind. The entactogenic aspect of the experience was mild but enjoyable.


The euphoria increased minute by minute and turned into a mini "peak". Not insane rushes of love like MDMA, but pleasant euphoria that forced you to think positive thoughts. I found myself able to increase the euphoria by doing stretches and by getting a shoulder rub from my g/f. She and I had a good conversation about our relationship and I enjoyed every minute of it. I felt like a better person who was able to listen to what she was saying without just waiting for my turn to speak. The only downside was the dry mouth. My mouth felt like I had smoked a few joints and water wasn't solving the problem.
It was also around this time that I decided to take one hit of some average buds I had. I did this to see if I could meditate myself into any "mind movies" like when I'm on MDMA. The bud didn't seem to mix very well as I couldn't even keep my eyes closed long enough to float away.


By this stage I had determined that this is an extroverted chemical so I decided to play some music. I am mainly a guitar player but playing the keyboard with some Bose headphones on full blast proved to be an epic experience. Music flowed with ease. Each note causing another wave of euphoria to embrace my body and then wash back down. I can't stress how beautiful playing music on 4-Fluoroamphetamine is. My mind felt almost sober, but my creative side was increased to a level almost on par with MDMA. I could focus and I never doubted that what I was playing sounded great. Writing songs on MDMA would sound amazing while high while in reality they would be long/lazy compositions.


By the 4 and a half hour mark my euphoria was still present but it was pushed more to the background. I decided to listen to Beachboys-Pet Sounds and play around some more on the computer. Music sounded good but it wasn't anywhere as epic as playing it was. I tried to listen to some Chemical Brothers and it sounded better. I feel that bass is very important to maximize the music enhancement of 4-Fluoroamphetamine.


What good would a euphoric stimulant be without having it increase sexual desire? So like any upstanding citizen I went into the bedroom and convinced my g/f to help me with my question. It took a few minutes to "get going" but the experience was pretty fantastic. Not crazy like with MDPV/Coke/Meph but stamina was increased and my sexual thought patterns were dipping into the "almost nasty" levels(guys you know what I'm talking about). This isn't a substance that causes you to not stop thinking about sex like some chems...*cough*mephedrone/mdpv, but my body could have made another go at it.


On to the comedown: While it did take me a few hours to get sleepy, I had taken it early in the day and it wasn't a bad comedown at all. I camedown in small amounts each hour instead of all at once. I almost felt sketchy for a few minutes after I went out to the store with my g/f, but it was nothing an experienced stim user can't handle. I experienced no paranoid thoughts either on the comeup, peak or comedown. Sketchy and paranoid are a little different in my book. The next day I was thirsty and had to drink plenty of water but the hangover was a breeze.


All in all this was a worthy chemical if you are looking for a euphoric stimulant with slight tendencies towards empathy. I wasn't as impressed with it as I was the first time I tried mephedrone, but it felt easier on the body. Not sure what a redose or higher dose would do but I left the experience satisfied.
 
^ Absolutely great report!
I can feel it through every letter of your post. :)

I usually don't like reading repots about stimulant, but this one is truly awesome.
 
^ Absolutely great report!
I can feel it through every letter of your post. :)

I usually don't like reading repots about stimulant, but this one is truly awesome.

Thankyou very much :) I like using the made up word "purephoria" when trying to describe entactogens. With opiates the description is more like...feeling nothing means everything. Pscyhedelics are more like.......8o
 
great report!

Personally i find 4-fluoroamphetamine to give very little (if any) euphoria at all. Even at higher doses of 200mg+

Maybe it's just me... Though i'm only 18 so don't think i have lost all my magic already. that just doesn seem possible.
 
very nice report. it seems like you nailed your dose on this go. honestly, i dont think you should go for higher doses if this one seems sufficient for you.
with 4fa there seems to be only slight increase in euphoria with larger doses (imhe), and large increase in side effects, like dry mouth or excessive stimulation, loss of appetite and insomnia.
 
That's strange fluffybudzz. Everyone is different and every batch is different. I read many positive experience reports in the 4-fa thread in other drugs which aided in my decision to try it. It was very nice stuff indeed :)
 
Very thorough report!

To those who have tried 4-fmp more than once: would you say its effects/side effects are more like an entactogen or a stimulant? I don't do well with the after-effects of MDMA, mephedrone and other serotonergic drugs and would like to know how 4-fmp compares in low doses. I love the empathy and euphoria but can't deal with the suicidal depression/exhaustion/mental clouding that comes after an entactogen high. Regular stims cause me no problems.
 
i found 4FMP to have a comedown later in the week like mdma but it was more of a serotonin depletion/emotional instability vibe than anything else.

the high can be pretty boring on 4FMP unless alcohol is involved
 
That's strange fluffybudzz. Everyone is different and every batch is different. I read many positive experience reports in the 4-fa thread in other drugs which aided in my decision to try it. It was very nice stuff indeed :)

It is strange indeed. there are acertainly many great reports on it. meh, i have half given up on stimulants now anyways tho. Think i sucked up all the serotonin and dopamine i had :(.

Anyways glad to see people can still get some euphoria out of the grey market at the moment.
 
Thanks pofacedho. That's what I was afraid of :\

I adore entactogens, but the serotonin depletion thing makes it not worth it for me.
 
Thanks pofacedho. That's what I was afraid of :\

I adore entactogens, but the serotonin depletion thing makes it not worth it for me.

I know exactly what you mean lady codone. The worst in this regard IMO is
6-APB. While I enjoyed all three experiences I had with it, my serotonin levels were off for a while. So much so that I did some meph(quality that I had already taken) two weeks later and got stimulation with little to no euphoria.
 
damn dude. i dig your understand behind substance. if one respects and loves substance, it can't be abused.
 
great report! i think that 4-fa is a great chem, not as euphoric as meph but still very nice and rather gentle even in higher doses (I usually do 160mg or more). Unfortunatelly euphoria lasts only first 2 hours, then its more just pure stimulation.
 
well, maybe it is entactogenic, but ive found set and setting to affect trips quite a lot so maybe next time you try it be in a more social environment.
 
Ye first time I tried this stff was at work and wow bam!
Took me by surprise, much stronger than expected
 
4-Fluoroamp is a good chemical. I agree that people should want to try this drug.

However, I cannot see that it would ever grow as popular as MDMA.

It is important that the 4-FA is very pure. It is not a drug where you would want to tolerate any dirty impurities.

Another chem I was thinking of that is probably also up there with 4-FA is 4-MTA. I cant think of a more appropriate place to stick a para-thiomethyl group than on amphetamine.

4-FA didn't feel anything like MDMA for me. I tried 10g in total (spaced out over a few weeks on continuous use) and all it was like was an amphetamine type of high with some serotonergic stimulation. The effects, in fairness, are mainly dopaminergic. Hence, 4-FA is mainly a dopaminergic based stimulant and is only weakly serotonergic.

I would dab my finger directly into the pile of 4-FA and place it on my tongue. I know this method of dosing isnt recommended because you can accidently overdose but I found that I was able to keep taking dabs of the 4-FA spaced apart by a few minutes until I felt the right level of intensity. You just have to be careful not to overdo it. It is probably not very safe to dose like this because you can overstep the mark by taking too much.

I found the best time of the day to take the 4-FA is in the morning and then the effects of the drug last all day long until you need to go to sleep at night. I dont recommend taking the 4-FA in the afternoon and certainly not during the evening as this will keep you awake and interfere with sleeping. Ofcourse if the user doesnt mind missing an entire nights sleep and staying awake for 48hr that is quite possible. I missed an entire nights sleep and went to sleep only very late the next night when I took my first dose of this stuff. Future doses were probably less manic though.

4-FA actually made my interest in sex/porn slightly less than usual. One thing that the 4-FA did that is particularly notable is make me want to brush my teeth repeatedly until they were 'ice' white.
 
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To those who have tried 4-fmp more than once: would you say its effects/side effects are more like an entactogen or a stimulant? I don't do well with the after-effects of MDMA, mephedrone and other serotonergic drugs and would like to know how 4-fmp compares in low doses. I love the empathy and euphoria but can't deal with the suicidal depression/exhaustion/mental clouding that comes after an entactogen high. Regular stims cause me no problems.

To me, its both, but the SERT depletion after *binging* was HORRIBLE. I *binged* though - I went through a couple grams in a couple weeks.. Tolerance develops rapidly..

After binging and trying to use lower doses daily, they didn't do anything so I started trying to IM 200mg at a time for a high, which still barely did anything. After I ran out of the 2 grams, I had horrible depression for a couple weeks. I would hear songs on the radio that just about had me crying at work lol.. very depressed.

But its a good chem to take once in a while, just one dose.. I imagine it would be similar to MDMA afterwards. For me, it takes at least 150mg (without using any sert releasing drugs in a while) to get the rolling feeling.. 200mg is better (orally). 100mg (for me) would mostly feel like regular amphetamine, although a tad more relaxed.
 
Excellent report man, I wish I had been playing music for long enough to know what I'm doing/have fun playing on stims. I love making art on stimuants and psyches, nothing beats it. But I know the feeling, and now I'm stoked to be trying 4-FA soon.

Not crazy like with MDPV/Coke/Meph but stamina was increased and my sexual thought patterns were dipping into the "almost nasty" levels(guys you know what I'm talking about).

LoL, indeed. MDPV, for example, takes your thoughts into the HORRIBLY NASTY SEX-CRAZED LUNATIC department.

I always enjoyed the sexual tones thats amphetamine's provide.
 
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