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4 Fluoro-Cocaine

I can obtain a gram of this for cheaper than a gram of cocaine around here. Is it really 60 times as strong as pure cocaine ?

Holy shit, so it would mean that a .1 line would be dangerous and would have to split that .1 line in 6 to have an equivalent of a .1 line of actual cocaine ? I find that hard to believe for the price I can get it....very curious indeed.
 
4-fluorococaine would be considered an illegal analogue of cocaine almost everywhere in the world. I would be wary of anyone claiming to sell this.

That being said, I don't think this is anywhere near 60x as potent as cocaine. Still you should keep your dosage low, and start with 10mg or less.
 
Analogue laws are not so common. In western culture the majority of countries do not have these kind of absurd laws (besides the US, Australia and in some cases Canada or the UK). 4-Fluorocaine would be legal in a lot of countries: France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, maybe even the UK... As far as I know Canada doesn't have an analogue law which could be applied to cocaine.

Keep us updated on your trials THE_REAL_OBLIVION, and try to run some sort of qualitative test to your sample if possible (HPLC, GC/MS...)
 
Apparently cocaine analogs are not scheduled in Canada, I don't have much of a doubt as to the legitimacy of the 4-FC that is circulating. (That doesn't guarantee anything though.)

I would love to hear more trip reports, the one in the trip reports section didn't seem too encouraging. It was speculated that this batch is the free base version which led to no effects at first until the material reached the stomach from the nasal cavity and caused a bad reaction due to way too much being taken nasally.
 
I read recently that 4-chloroamphetamine is ridiculously toxic and is used to selectively kill serotonin receptors.
 
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4-ca beiong, of course, 4-chloroamphetamine

Apparently cocaine analogs are not scheduled in Canada
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CDSA said:
Schedule 1 - Item 2 - Coca (Erythroxylon), its preparations, derivatives, alkaloids, and salts
(1) Coca leaf
(2) Cocaine
(3) Ecgonine
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4-fluorococaine could reasonably be considered a derivative of either cocaien or ecgonine. I am sure if you were caught handling it in canada you would face prosecution. Just because someone is selling it does not make it legal.
 
Since you guys suddenly all got a bit too precise to my taste.... ;)

Yeah, I can buy 4-fc for cheaper than a gram of actual blow, and i got a good connect for that with shit that isnt levamisoled.

There is a grey market/totally legal place in canada selling 4-FC, but they do not sell that one just to anybody.
 
sekio said:
4-fluorococaine could reasonably be considered a derivative of either cocaien or ecgonine. I am sure if you were caught handling it in canada you would face prosecution. Just because someone is selling it does not make it legal.
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A layman's "derivative" and a chemist's "analogue" might not be synonymous, but I'm not familiar with Canadian legal terminology so I won't speculate further.
 
Yea it was presumed to be the free base due to its solubility profile. A sample from a reputable Canadian vendor (for whatever that's worth) was very active vaporized at 1mg. I couldn't manage to form any kind of acid salt with it. Stuff just wouldn't dissolve in water, solutions HCl, H2S04, acetic acid, nothing. It disappeared almost instantly in either acetone or toluene. If someone can try maybe crashing out a fumarate salt from dry acetone that would be great.
My buddy who tried it didn't seem too discouraged. He would do it again at a slightly higher dose.
 
Burn it up said:
How where the effects when you vaporized 1mg?
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I didn't vaporize it but I was sitting my friend who vaporized it. His best description was that it definitely was active at 1mg and it was a bit more powerful than he anticipated (almost immediate onset). It was comfy and stoning. Somewhere between a bit of a roll and a weed buzz he said. Some anxiety and paranoia which was pretty much to be expected. Not stimulating at all (but neither of us ever found free base cocaine to be particularly stimulating either)
A more recent trial with ~2-3mg was somewhat similar to free base cocaine but without the intense euphoria hit, cracked out feeling or the urge to re-dose. Just full-body relaxing for the time it lasted, which was around an hour. He has zero-tolerance to stimulants though and a few trials with other ppl with a cocaine tolerance and at similar dosage levels failed to produce more than a small buzz but were still taking baby steps with it as a precaution.
 
Ligaturd said:
Apparently cocaine analogs are not scheduled in Canada
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Some are, some are not. Of the 21 cocaine analogs listed on the CDSA 6 are Schedule 1 while the remainder are unscheduled. Contrary to rumor, 4-fluorococaine is Schedule 1 since 2010. So while it wasn't controlled when this thread was started, it is now. Those places based in Canada that used to have it have either removed it from the "menu" or grayed out the item.
 
I recall reading one vendor was actually seeling 5f-AKB-48 as 4-fluorococaine, and no independent lab could confirm that anyone hasd *real* stuff.

Just more evidence that you should double-check even a "reliable" vendor.
 
I think that it's important to mention that the vendor which is selling a cannabinoid as 4-FluoroCocaine is a Canadian vendor. We don't want any HauptRC-like incidents happening again.
 
Yes, I now realize this. The vendor in question had to stop selling it because it did in fact not turn out to be what it was supposed to be. They said that once they found out what it really was they would sell it as that. It has been a few months since that was said and it hasn't appeared back on the website so I'm guessing it is potentially dangerous substance or something nobody would even care to be involved with
 
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