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(4-CMC/Two tests. 50mg's/100mg+100mg) First time: "4-CMC Test Runs"

Sleepwalker18

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Posting this for a friend. For clarity he is 24, male, 130lbs/59kg's. Enjoy.

4-CMC

Test #1
Dose: 50mg
Time of dose 11:56pm on August 1st, 2014
Oral dose (Parachute)
(Times listed are based off the time since I dosed.)

~20 minutes in feel very low level of body temp changing, head feeling warm but very very slight.

30 minutes in sort of feeling a little bit going on in my stomach, possible onset of nausea.

32 minutes in and I can feel my body temp fluctuating. Hands feel warm with sort of a cold aura around them.

39 minutes in slight racing of thoughts.

(Peak) 42 minutes in noticeable change in body temperate, a bit more talkative, thinking a bit faster...overall sort of a "speedy" feel.

49 minutes in and body definitely feels speedy sort of like MDMA with really no or extremely light euphoria. I'm quite talkative but there isn't a yearning to socialize like with LSD or MDMA.

54 minutes in and things feel a bit calmer. My heart rate has barely increased at all.

56 minutes in I looked at myself in the mirror to check on my pupils and they are dilated. It is quite noticeable although I do feel pretty normal now.

(wave 1) 1 hr 10 minutes in starting to feel a little warm again and a slight hint of euphoria.

1 hr 15 minutes in palms are starting to sweat and euphoria starting to increase. Feeling pretty happy and still kind of talkative, wanting a bit more interaction than earlier.

1 hr 26 minutes in my palms are still pretty sweaty, still feeling very talkative, not much body load, sort of having an urge to get a little bit more of a rush.

1 hr 28 minutes body is starting to cool down again and beginning to feel normal, I'm assuming this is just a wave passing.

1 hr 47 minutes in my body is starting to feel slightly warm again but nothing too noticeable apart from that. It tends to start with a cool aura around my hands due to the cold weather.

(wave 2) 1hr 51 minutes in body is only slightly warm and no real feelings of euphoria like the last wave. Feel a slight urge to talk but nothing like the beginning.

2 hours in I still feel a little effect sort of spaced out in a good way although there is almost no euphoria present and I don't feel that rush of excitement from earlier. I do feel good and have enjoyed the experience so far.

(wave 3) 2 hrs 10 minutes in and I feel warm but not like before. Things seemed to have pretty much passed except for the very slight warmth of my body. The urge to talk has passed again, no euphoria, but still feel pretty good. It is a "I feel nice" kind of feeling. The excitement from earlier has also subsided. Pupils are still really dilated.

2 hrs 30 minutes in and there are really no effects apart from dilated pupils. (Trip already ended)

Next day - I was able to sleep fairly easily afterward. There was a little bit of the usual "amped" feeling your body has after the effects have all passed. Please check the "Notes" section for a summary of observations I had during and post trip. These are random thoughts/feelings I had that I chose to keep separate from the time updates, I wanted to keep those for important updates on noticeable changes.

Notes: So far starting out this has had practically no body load at all. The rush of energy at the peak was sort of like MDMA without the euphoria or empathy. It tends to come in waves. Music isn't really affected nor is it something I am yearning for like on other chemicals. No real desire to dance or move all around. There is almost a desire to have body load. It was easy to piss on this and I don't feel it would keep me up all night. Although I did tend to want to ask people about themselves, I'm not quite sure I would consider it an empathetic effect. It wasn't like MDMA where you really have a deep concern for everything to do with anyone, it didn't feel like that for me. I do consider it as a possibility due to the dose possibly being a threshold one, but I feel it could have just been my desire to talk had me asking people anything to keep a conversation going. I did notice a little bit of an afterglow but it is very slight, and I do feel excited to try this again at a higher dose.



Test #2
Dose: 100mg (with 100mg redoses during)
Time of dose 8:00pm on Aug. 9, 2014
Oral dose (Parachute)
(Times listed are based off the time since I dosed.)

(Come up) 1hr 2min- Starting to get racing thoughts, sweaty palms, warm face.

1hr 7min- Palms are really, really sweaty but nothing else noticeable. My body feels normal and hasn't heated up much.

1hr 10min- Sort of feeling a little empathy and a bit of energy. The come up has been pretty smooth.

(Peak) 1hr 15min- Reached the peak and it was a nice smooth come up. I feel really pumped up, happy, empathy, and palms are sweating more than I have ever seen. No noticeable change in sex drive. Music sounds a lot better and when a song stops it sort of causes a frustration, similar to how I get on 25i.

1hr 24min- I would say this is almost like a lighter version of MDMA, or what I would assume Speed feels like. I feel empathy but not near the same level. It's more of a care for people and wanting them to be alright than a love for the entire world and feeling everyone is an essence instead of human. The euphoria was not overwhelming but very enjoyable. My heart rate feels normal and my thoughts are at a normal pace. And obviously there is an urge to talk.

1hr 30min- There has been no body load at all for me and I have just felt amazing. Palms are still pretty sweaty, but there is still a lot of empathy and I am very talkative. Body feels warmer, but the only part I'm really sweating from is the aforementioned palms. Also, I had removed my hoodie for a moment and noticed that my body was actually very sensitive to any warmth or cold that may come in contact. As soon as I put my hoodie on I had felt normal again.

1hr 50min- Effects are still going pretty strong and have had an urge to hear music. music doesn't necessarily sound better but certainly adds to the pumped up feeling. empathy is still going strong and feeling very thirsty. palms are sweating less.

2hr- I can sort of feel the effects going down and sort of getting a slight urge to redose.

2hr 14min- Still feeling some of the effects, but the sweating has definitely went down.

3hrs- The effects are calming down but palms remain really sweaty. I feel slightly less talkative and much less euphoria.

Comedown: The comedown can really depend on what is going on when it starts. For example, I was dealing with a sad situation so when I started to come down I did not want to speak with people too much and I was feeling a little sad.

Redose: Redosing works well on this but also was taking about an hour to come up. Just like the comedown you need to consider your emotions because until you get to the peak you will be pretty much stuck with that feeling. The euphoria when redosing is still great, but obviously doesn't get to the same point and even less so when doing it various times. I had redosed near the second hour of the trip and it took ~1 hour to get back up. I had also put on upbeat dance music which also helped immensely with the sad comedown. Music seems to have a pretty decent influence on the mood of this.

Notes: This time has been a bit different, things aren't coming in waves like the 50mg dose, though most the effects are the same. Beer tastes pretty damn good on this but I've switched to water to avoid dehydration. Like the previous test there was no increase in sex drive. I still feel that I could easily after this just like the 50mg. I do have a small yearning to keep dosing, which I did not feel that really on the 50mg. I did piss various times on this, more than I would have expect for how much I drank.

I had felt no body load on this nor was the comedown unpleasant. This is generally a pretty smooth ride, especially if you pay attention to my warning about moods/environment while coming up or coming down. This time had cleared up my concerns about the empathy, with the 50mg there was definitely concern for others and not just a desire to talk. With the 100mg this was obviously amplified and also helping others and just talking to someone in general really made me happy. The urge to talk to people had stayed much longer this time.

Aftereffects(based on both trips): Surprisingly there were no noticeable after effects, it was as smooth as the comedown. There was no "hangover" or similar feeling, nor have I felt much of an afterglow. The only thing could be the slight desire to keep going, which actually seems to be more due to the joy felt from social interactions be they via internet or personal. This desire does past quick and this doesn't feel like it would be addictive.
 
Thanks!

Thanks for this. We just got some 3-CMC and 4-CMC. Was your 4-CMC in a brownish crystal? The 3-CMC is clear/white crystals, but the 4-CMC looks more brownish.

A friend will be trying 4-CMC tomorrow and I'll type up a report. Check out my posted report on 3-CMC if you're interested.

-Thanks
 
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