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4-Aco-Mipt -- First and Second Experiences -- Yet Another Ace in the Deck.

gloggawogga

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4-aco-mipt - Yet another ace in the deck.

This report is to briefly describe two experiences with this material. My prior psychedelic experiences are broad dating back over 25 years, including hundreds of LSD trips, and also experience with shrooms, cacti, ayahuasca, and various research chems including both 4-aco-det and 4-aco-dipt. Having liked both 4-aco-det and 4-aco-dipt very much I thought I'd give 4-aco-mipt a taste.

When the material first arrived the crystalline material was in a plastic bag with a moisture absorber. Immediately upon opening the baggy the crystals started to get sticky, kind of like glue. I managed to get the material out of the bag into a glass vial and as I did so I noticed the material was changing into a sticky translucent goop with a maroonish-brownish tint do it, kind of like dpt freebase but more translucent and a lot stickier. I realized the only way to weigh the material was going to be to use the bottom half of an empty gel cap as a tare. Doing this I made a 12mg and a 18mg gel caps using a clean small flat tipped screwdriver to to place the material in the gel cap. Do not eyeball this material. What 12mg and 18mg looked like to the eye was a lot less than I would have expected.

I ingested the 12 mg later that evening around 7:00 pm. The setting as at my house with my wife at home. I hadn't eaten since around noon that day. I did have work to go to the next day, but I had plenty of sick and vacation time available if I didn't feel like going.

At the time I was on an IRC channel and I continued to chat for a while and surf the web a bit. At around 7:30 or so there were some definite effects so I decided to lay back and veg for a while and let the drug take its effect. My wife chatted with me for a while, mostly about problems with her job (which she has since quit). At around 8:15 or so she decided she wanted to go out to the store to get something for her self to eat and she left me alone for a while. I got up and went back to the computer to see whats up on the chat channel. Visuals at the point were well developed, especially when I tried to look at things and see what I was doing. With the visuals and some difficulty focusing I just didn't want to bother with irc dialog, so I went and sat down in place where I usually meditate. I proceeded to focus on my natural breathing rhythms and other body energies. I typically do this with research chems to see how a drug's energy is affecting by body. With the 4-aco-mipt I couldn't really notice any body load at all, though granted it was hard to concentrate on things like breath rhythms. So I just sat and let the meditation deepen. For a few moments I felt a familiar entity presence, one which I have experienced many times in my life including many times sober and also vividly other psychedelics such as LSD and shrooms. So its not something I would uniquely ascribe to the 4-aco-mipt, but still a significant and soothing experience nonetheless even though it lasted for less than a minute. My mind felt amazingly clear.

Probably around 9:45 I got the urge to go outside. It seemed the peak was over but I wasn't sure. I figured I'd take one of the dogs for a walk. I still had a lot of difficulty concentrating though and my thoughts kept getting sidetracked. I probably didn't get out of the door with a dog on leash until about 10:15 or so. While outside the visuals were nice, but for some reason not spectacular. It was if the brightness had been turned down on the visuals. Anyways its was a nice walk. When I got back the other dogs (we have three total) wanted walks too so I walked them. During all this (I don't remember exactly when) my wife got home as was cooking in the kitchen. I didn't want to eat so I went back upstairs, smoked some weed and vegged out for a little while and then got back on IRC. Around midnight I went and got something to eat and it was very satisfying. After treating my self to some more weed around 1:30 I went to bed and had little trouble sleeping. I was pretty much baseline at the time. I woke up tired and groggy around 6:30 for work but felt better after a shower. Later that day at work I had to drink some coffee to get through the day.

8 days after this trip, not having used any psychedelics in the interrum, I contemplated the 18mg gel cap. Considering the strength of the 12mg trip I thought about taking a little bit out of the gel cap but ended up not doing so. Looking at the material in the gel cap I noticed that the material had become almost entirely translucent except for a slight maroonish tint, i.e. it looked like a pure flawless material even though that wasn't it original state. I ate the gel cap around 9pm, the setting be at home with my wife home again, this time on a Friday night so I wouldn't have to worry about work the next day.

Like the other trip I started out in front of my pc on a chat line, and just reading the news on the web. I got into a serious talk about something on irc (but I don't remember what it was so maybe it wasn't that serious), and of course people were asking "how's the 4-aco-mipt" to which I couldn't answer as I was just coming up. Anyways by around 10 pm I was way too high to sit in front of the machine. I went to the bedroom and tried to do this meditation on breathing thing again but I was almost totally unable to concentrate on that so I just sat for a while. One of the dogs started to bother me and needed to go outside but I didn't want to walk them so took them out into the back yard. I sat out in a garden chair in the back yard under a couple of pecan trees as the dogs ran around and did their thing. It was a beautiful evening, clear, maybe about 70 degrees outside, no insects at all, and just real peaceful. I once again felt that familiar entity presence and became very contented. The visuals were much more developed this time, but were still strange in a way, sort of alien but still pleasing. I just took in the sights and sounds. There were squirrels around coming to get the pecans which had been falling from the pecan tree and the dogs would see them and chase them. Chasing one squirrel up a tree the dogs would be all absorbed in that and not even notice other squirrels on the ground near by, which as kinda funny. The combination of a natural and man made sights and sounds made me think about the underlying connection between humanity and nature. I thought how human nature is just nature taking another course, one which is very different on a superficial and material level yet strikingly similar on deeper levels that few people are aware of. I see that in a way humans are just more blind than the rest of nature. Anyways I probably sat for an hour and a half or so, thinking about this that or the other thing. Basically I just surrendered to the effects: my head would remain amazingly clear as long as I didn't try to focus on anything or try to think about anything too seriously.

When I and the dogs came it was about 11:45 or so. The dogs were thirsty as ever. I should have taken water out for or let them in sooner. I was definitely beyond the peak. My wife had been at her PC for a while writing a letter and she took a break from that and we chatted for a while. I seem to be able to talk to her in almost a completely normal way when I'm tripping, to a point were she hardly believes I'm tripping. I told her how nice it was in the back yard (something she encouraged me to spend a lot of time and money on landscaping and gardening and she never goes out an enjoys it her self). Anyways around 12:30 my wife went to bed so I got online for a little while and then cooked up some pasta. I smoked a large bowl and got in the sack around 2:15 am. There were still some lingering effects and I knew I wouldn't sleep right away but I didn't care. I probably fell asleep around 3:30 or so. At 6:30 the dogs woke me up to go out and have their breakfast, as they do every morning. I felt tired as ever but after finishing all that around 7:00 I went back to bed and slept till about 1:00 pm with some very vivid dreams in the late morning. I felt well rested.

Overall I am impressed by this material. I thought was very similar to shrooms and very similar 4-aco-det, yet different from each. It was definitely more potent than 4-aco-det by weight, and has perhaps a more intriguing flavor to it as well. I will definitely visit this material again, though probably not every soon as it seems one of those things that would be enjoyed more the less you do it.
 
thanks for the report glog! fantastic to hear more about this little known chem.
 
Re: 4-aco-mipt - Yet another ace in the deck.

gloggawogga said:
It was definitely more potent than 4-aco-det by weight, and has perhaps a more intriguing flavor to it as well.

Thank you for this. Wow! More potent than 4-AcO-DET! 4-AcO-DET can kick my ass in the 14 to 16 mg range, so I will be very careful with this one. I am very sensitive to tryptamines.

Is there any more you can add to the differences between this, 4-AcO-DET, and 4-AcO-DiPT? I know such words are hard to describe, but if you could add anything I'd appreciate it.

Good report.
 
extremely well written, great report !!

gloggawogga said:
There were squirrels around coming to get the pecans which had been falling from the pecan tree and the dogs would see them and chase them. Chasing one squirrel up a tree the dogs would be all absorbed in that and not even notice other squirrels on the ground near by, which as kinda funny.

i envy you, squirrels in the backyard. :) i can watch them climb trees for hours, they are amazing little animals..
 
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