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4-AcO-MIPT - Experienced - Possible loss of potency?

CatfishRivers

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4-AcO-MIPT (notes on possible loss of potency?)

I thought I would write up this experiment as a note on the loss of potency in a sample of 4-AcO-MIPT that had been stored in solution, dissolved in everclear, and store in a mostly airtight glass container, inside of a safe. So, the storage enviorment was cool and dark. However, after only a few months the sample had turned colors, leaving the sample colored a dark purple to black color. The material was aproximatley 1-2 years old at the time of the experiment, depending on how long it was with the supplier prior to being shipped out.

After reading from several intelligent folks that the sample should remain safe for ingestion, and probably without loss of potncy, I began to wonder if this were the case. So, 15 mgs was added to water and ingested.

9:55 am> 15 mg taken orally in water. I've been awake alnight already pulling an overnight shift in the booby hatch. I had taken 100mg of ephedrine throughout the course of the night to stay awake, but felt mostly down from the ephedrine by now.

10:00 am> I swear I feel a first alert already. My salivia is a bit more copius than normal, which is always one of my alert signals that something psychedelic is happening to me. If i fell aslepp I would probably drool all over myself to be honest. I can also already detect something in my cheeks, a sort of energy/muscle activity.

10:12 am> Feeling flushed in the face. I remember this from past trials with this chemical in particular. There is a slight buzz in my chest as well, it feels nice, like when you steal a feather pillow away from a loved one's spot in the bed after they have gotten out of bed to go to work when you have off.

10:16 am> Facial tension begins to set in, backed by a growing sure of energy felt in my cranium. I feel like something wants to shoot up and out of my spinal cord.

10:20 am> smoked resin out of my bowl as i am plumb outta the good green herb. It does the trick though , and I feel a cloud of cohesion begin to form around me and the experience of the chemical. Something about weed that always makes the chemical seem much closer of an experience to me, while without weed the drug always seems to be underlying an empty space from which I can't truely feel it. Weed is truely one of teh Gods of the Gaps.

10:46 am> Increase in intensity. There is a swelling of energy the continues to mount with in me. By this point i feel as if my head is being held in the air by an invisable pair of energy hands, gently cupping my skull at the base behind the ears. It is very relaxing if I can not think of the speedy surging aspect of the rush I am feeling. I feel a slight twinge of pain, probably muscle tightening, in my left arm (which always raises the alert level in my head). My vision is being effected as well. I have a very grainy field of vision, as if everything was made up of tiny hyper vibrational particles that I could actually see in motion, like watching a swarm of gnats in a way. I also notice an erotic body buzz settling in my legs and groin area. I decide not to act impulsively on it and distract myself with music.

I am playing guitar and can feel myself wading in and out of the zone. Everytime I start to focus on the speediness, and the anxiety that accompanies it, I fall from grace. This starts to frustrate me, so instead I sit down on my keyboard and use Reason to make a cool loop called, "Insects standing in line for the elavator to the honey shaft." And I like it! It actually sounds like bees hiving about in a mechanical sorta of order. For the curious I have encluded a link to it:

Here's a link to the loop I made during the experiment (it has since been altered though)

11:24 am> The intesity suddenly seems to drop. It went from feeling like I was headed to a solid +++ to being an underlying feeling, much more sober than not. The suddeness of it is what grabs my attention. It was as if I walked through a door that made me soberer (ererer).

12:04 am> I could drive, go back to work, go to church, meet a stranger in the supermarket, anything normal I could do again now. I feel just ever so slightly off baseline and am a bit dissapointed. I feel as if the rug got yoinked out from under my experience. Just as the rush and push of the drug seemed to be reaching for the top of the hill, it was actually stepping off the bottom. Bummer...



And that is basically all there is to tell. I am not sure if it did lose potency or what, but the experience was much shorter than ever before, and the manner in which it moved from point a to point b to point c was unlike before as well. I wonder who else has had a similar experience with this one...
 
Your experience sounds about right in intensity for 15mg 4-aco-mipt. I find you need 18-22mg for crazy +++/++++ experiences. 15mg is about right for a decent ++.

You can definitely feel the good/god energy flow through you on this one. For me it was the most worthwhile RC I've tried.
 
Yeah, it is just that previously (several months since the last experiment with this material) 15mgs was a much more potent, and lengthy experience. But, I would be happy to come to the conclusion the material is still good. ;)
 
I too look foward to sampling this one. Having found miprocin (4-Ho-MiPT) way too similar to mushrooms, I feel the acetate may hold more promise. I mean, if I wanted a mushroom-like trip I'd just eat mushrooms. Now the only question will be if my sample is still active. I managed to obtain a sample of the 'hygroscopic' material that circulated. I have not exposed it to air since the day I transfered it to the vial (well over a year ago), but when I did so it did turn to a goo. Well, we will see soon one day!
 
My sample was also from the "hygroscopic batch"...I just decided to disolve it in ethanol right away when I saw how the powder clumped up when it came in contact with the air.
 
Winding Vines said:
I too look foward to sampling this one. Having found miprocin (4-Ho-MiPT) way too similar to mushrooms, I feel the acetate may hold more promise. I mean, if I wanted a mushroom-like trip I'd just eat mushrooms.

i remember you saying that your experience with miprocin was only at 12 or 14mg.
I recently tried it at 20-22mg and the experience was very different to mushrooms even though lower doses i founf to be similar to around 2 grams of p cubensis.
 
i have no experience w/ this rc but i really like your description and analogies of the trip. interesting though short acting...
with rc's many times i've felt some kind of tingling or some kind of buzzing or execution happening in my mouth/face/head even though it's only been 5 minutes from drop. i always think its the searching and acute eagerness though ;p
 
Winding Vines said:
I too look foward to sampling this one. Having found miprocin (4-Ho-MiPT) way too similar to mushrooms, I feel the acetate may hold more promise. I mean, if I wanted a mushroom-like trip I'd just eat mushrooms. Now the only question will be if my sample is still active. I managed to obtain a sample of the 'hygroscopic' material that circulated. I have not exposed it to air since the day I transfered it to the vial (well over a year ago), but when I did so it did turn to a goo. Well, we will see soon one day!

I found 4-AcO-MIPT to be not so much like mushrooms. And supposedly with my sample, being that it has turned colors, it is mostly 4-HO-MIPT by this point. I found it to be more like 5-MeO-DIPT than anything else, and also similar to 4-AcO-DIPT. I feel this is a good chemical to work with though, I am just baffled by the rather short duration...I will have to repeat at a higher dose and see what the differences are by this point.
 
Doh! I got to look at who's name I am posting under. Although WV has told me she feels the same way I do about miprocin, and also desires to work with the acetate ester.
 
MGS/WV your batch should be fine. I had 20mg of that "hygroscopic batch" sitting in a gel cap at room temperature for 14 months, it had turned near black, and there was no loss in potency or change in the quality of the experience. Catfish, I doubt that 4-AcO-MIPT degrades into 4-HO-MIPT. If it did it would get more potent, and also change in flavor significantly. I didn't notice either with the 14 month old 4-AcO-MIPT gel cap.
 
Welp, that is just what I had read on, I believe, ADP a while back...so it could be entirely bogus. I was just struck at the brevity of the experience. I guess more testing is in order...
 
I had a dream yesterday that i took 4-aco-mipt @ 16mg for the first time. My other dreams of taking the HO type sure had a different landscape to it.

I'm noticing that 4-aco is more visual, euforic and there was more of a energy to the dream, but it could have been from the eletrical storm we had last night, sitting on my deck watching it coming my way as the lightening continually danced in the sky, was awsome at best. Hopefully next month i'll dream of an 18mg experience.

All 3 of the sphongle CD's and a little "Mars Volta" help too. Mars Volta sure inspired me to plug in my yamaha SE1203 Guitar into my Marshall amp, after reading my fine Catfish's post! that was quite a treat, but having to concentrate on the dynamics of what i was trying to play, kind of brought me to a grounding. So i quit and smoked a dube and took in some N20 listening now to Ozark Tenticals. So to wondered off into wonderland again asking that same ol question of why are we here. Then i woke up with that familer smile of knowingness!
cheers
 
Speaking of strange dreams...had this repeat dream..

Welp, I tried it again at 23 mg last night, and it was stronger but still shorter than my initial few experiences. I ended up employing a 5mg booster around 2:23 into the experience, and held it sublingally (was in ethanol solution) and did indeed feel a significant boost. I also smoked a buttload of greenage, so...but the experience was very "rushy" and erotic, mostly a body buzz with a head full of psychedelic soupy thinking. Felt good and creative, but the visual component was next to none. Not a very strong experience, but a nice one (but I was hoping for a strong one). So I still dunno why my material is producing such short experiences. The whole 2nd experience lasted just over 3 and a half hours...

If this is the course of this one, I still like it, just need to figure out how to use boosters the best.
 
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Re: 4-AcO-MIPT (notes on possible loss of potency?)

CatfishRivers said:
10:12 am> Feeling flushed in the face. I remember this from past trials with this chemical in particular. There is a slight buzz in my chest as well, it feels nice, like when you steal a feather pillow away from a loved one's spot in the bed after they have gotten out of bed to go to work when you have off.

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