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Greenlighter
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After reading so many wonderful and intense reports about 4-aco, my boyfriend ordered 500mg.
We proceeded to have very different experiences of this rc than what we read. Whether this is body chemistry, or lack of trip reporters... I feel it is only fair to share our experience with others.
almost-Trip #1 Having no scale we started small. At a low dose, nothing happened, so we insufflated some more. Within 15 minutes of insufflation this rc gave us intense physical and mental anxiety. We sat in my room with knees to chest, only comforted by each other and The Beatles. Although there were some mild visuals, it was mostly a haze or fuzziness and it was difficult to even determine if we were tripping at all, save for all the anxiety.
Trip #2 We did about double the amount we had taken the first time, realizing the dose/effect gradient was supposed to be steep. No physical anxiety this time, nice visuals... very different from any I've ever seen. Things did not move and swell as much as LSD, but had the effect of peeling up off the walls, I saw edges of things curling up as if to reveal something. There was also a fuzziness, once again, and a new dimension to things. For instance, when I looked at my bathrobe hanging from a hook on the wall, it appeared as though there were someone invisible in it, as though the sleeves were full and empty at the same time.
Still yet, to our standards, this was a barely-trip.
Trip #3 Realizing this rc was obviously not as dangerous or intense as we had read, we got a hotel room with a friend and did most of the aco. This was a wonderful, strong (although not intense) and strange trip.
We walked across the street to the beach several times, skinny dipped, interacted with a search helicopter in the water, interacted in public and with each other throughout the night with no trouble. Visuals were mild at a distance, but looking at anything up close I feared overdose because of their intensity.
No ego-loss... not even close. Could remember my name, but had trouble discussing myself (like a low-dose of lsd), feeling as though such details were trivial and inconsequential.
Although this trip was completely free of any physical anxiety, it was as if my our minds were too intact to trip hard. The trip was too clear. This stradling of worlds, for all three of us, created a mental anxiety which we corrected throughout the night by insufflating oxycontin.
At the end of the night, there was little powder left, so it is safe to say we took "enough". We had no scale, but based on how much powder we had to start and how much we finished... this stuff is not as strong as it is made out to be. This is shocking, since every report we read told of 30mg trips that changed people forever. A 500mg bag and only 3 good trips and a little extra
4-aco-dmt was like all the side effects of tripping without that feeling of cleaning out your mind and soul. It was all the fun with none of the force. Lacked .innerspace & euphoria I have come to love in rolls, molly, psilocybin, lsd or dmt.
The fact that people could compare this drug to DMT confuses me. For myself and my friends it was quite the opposite end of the entheogenic spectrum.
In conclusion... this RC is not for heavy trippers. If you want a good time but don't want to explore your mind, this is the drug for you. No ego confrontation or confusion.
For me, and the others who joined me in these endeavors, this rc left out the most crucial element of any good trip... spending time with your mind.
We proceeded to have very different experiences of this rc than what we read. Whether this is body chemistry, or lack of trip reporters... I feel it is only fair to share our experience with others.
almost-Trip #1 Having no scale we started small. At a low dose, nothing happened, so we insufflated some more. Within 15 minutes of insufflation this rc gave us intense physical and mental anxiety. We sat in my room with knees to chest, only comforted by each other and The Beatles. Although there were some mild visuals, it was mostly a haze or fuzziness and it was difficult to even determine if we were tripping at all, save for all the anxiety.
Trip #2 We did about double the amount we had taken the first time, realizing the dose/effect gradient was supposed to be steep. No physical anxiety this time, nice visuals... very different from any I've ever seen. Things did not move and swell as much as LSD, but had the effect of peeling up off the walls, I saw edges of things curling up as if to reveal something. There was also a fuzziness, once again, and a new dimension to things. For instance, when I looked at my bathrobe hanging from a hook on the wall, it appeared as though there were someone invisible in it, as though the sleeves were full and empty at the same time.
Still yet, to our standards, this was a barely-trip.
Trip #3 Realizing this rc was obviously not as dangerous or intense as we had read, we got a hotel room with a friend and did most of the aco. This was a wonderful, strong (although not intense) and strange trip.
We walked across the street to the beach several times, skinny dipped, interacted with a search helicopter in the water, interacted in public and with each other throughout the night with no trouble. Visuals were mild at a distance, but looking at anything up close I feared overdose because of their intensity.
No ego-loss... not even close. Could remember my name, but had trouble discussing myself (like a low-dose of lsd), feeling as though such details were trivial and inconsequential.
Although this trip was completely free of any physical anxiety, it was as if my our minds were too intact to trip hard. The trip was too clear. This stradling of worlds, for all three of us, created a mental anxiety which we corrected throughout the night by insufflating oxycontin.
At the end of the night, there was little powder left, so it is safe to say we took "enough". We had no scale, but based on how much powder we had to start and how much we finished... this stuff is not as strong as it is made out to be. This is shocking, since every report we read told of 30mg trips that changed people forever. A 500mg bag and only 3 good trips and a little extra
4-aco-dmt was like all the side effects of tripping without that feeling of cleaning out your mind and soul. It was all the fun with none of the force. Lacked .innerspace & euphoria I have come to love in rolls, molly, psilocybin, lsd or dmt.
The fact that people could compare this drug to DMT confuses me. For myself and my friends it was quite the opposite end of the entheogenic spectrum.
In conclusion... this RC is not for heavy trippers. If you want a good time but don't want to explore your mind, this is the drug for you. No ego confrontation or confusion.
For me, and the others who joined me in these endeavors, this rc left out the most crucial element of any good trip... spending time with your mind.
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