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4-aco-dmt + 4-fa together?

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Friedsushi87

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Just wondering if this might be a good combo, or if the 4-fa would ruin the 4-aco-dmt trip. Or if they reacted violently.

As I recall, last time I administered 4-aco-dmt to my plants (20 mg apiece), at about T+2:00 or T+3:00 the plants felt very lethargic and tired. The plants experienced crazy open eye visuals for the first 2 hours, re-dosed with 10mg, then experienced (while feeling wholly compelled to remain motionless on the ground/couch) the plants enjoyed closed eye visuals.

My thoughts, as a researcher, is that the effects of 4-fa might help counteract the lethargy and allow a more stimulated and up-beat trip.

By no means, though, did any of my plants not enjoy the lethargy of laying down and enjoying COV...or the experience in general (except for 45 minutes towards the T+4:00 to T+4:45 mark where one of the plants got the hiccups violently, which thoroughly ruined the experience).

(Also, on a side note, has anyone's plants ever laughed uncontrollably, giggled for the stupidest reasons, on 4-aco-dmt? I didn't expect that to be a side effect. But it was quite enjoyable to the plants. I think that the hiccups might just be a reaction to the large amount of laughter, but one cannot be certain...)
 
I'm sorry but we don't allow talk of administering drugs to plants or animals here, that's wrong and shouldn't be done. We also don't allow SWIM or anything similar as it does not protect you from the law in any way, and simply makes your posts hard to read.

Please don't do this again.

As for your question, 4-FA might help, but I'd advise experimenting with a combination of extremely low doses of both to see whether they synergise or not before jumping in at a higher dose.
 
Nephtys said:
You shouldn't poison your plants with drugs...
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Agreed, and even less poison such a marvelous tryptamine with amphetamines.

An extremely small dose of a weak stimulant to counter the strong sedative effects of 4-AcO-DMT works, I've done it a few times, but I've learned to enjoy and accept the nature of 4-AcO-DMT. However stimulants always take away the depth to a varying degree.

If you want a stimulating trip there are more suitable compounds for that which are both very visual and very deep.
 
4-FA would change the character of the 4-aco-DMT trip to basically be so un-heady that you can't call it a trip. Just visual psychosis to some extent. And with likely an increased amount of psychological stress and body load.

In my experience and also opinion, do not insult serious psychedelic drugs by combining them with shallow stimulant drugs.
 
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