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4-AcO-DiPT (now outside the gates)

BreakingSet

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A 21mg sample of 4-AcO-DiPT was administered yesterday afternoon to a mammallian volunteer who had never exceeded the 12mg mark with this compound. The compound was more than a year old and stored in brown glass in deep cold (showing no sign of degradation).

First effects felt within 30 minutes.
Peak experience began approx 1 hour after ingestion.
Peak experience lasted approx 1.5 hours
Come down effects lasted another 4 hours.

The effects produced from 21mg were overwhelming, yet were not negative. Classical music, which was playing before hand, very suddenly became lordly and full of power. As the experience grew in scope and the compound sank deeper into the mind, everything became very powerful: the color of the sky as the sun set was immense and hinted at being frightening.

It really did hit at this point just like a sonic BOOM. Speaking became almost impossible because the purpose of words was forgotten, morphemes and phonemes were doing a gentlemanly waltz, which one could not help but join. Dancing felt great. Cutting a rug in the living room in the dusty light of dusk, the partners in the dance were the frayed fibers of the rug itself, as everything in view began to line up in a very complex and beautiful symmetry.

As the peak started tremors were experienced, so a hot bath was drawn. With candles in the dark submerged in warm water the body was left behind. Dreams could be entered and altered at will. A rolling sound started in an imagined distance and swept over the CEV's, taking awareness with it as it moved. Eventually, everything condenced down to a point much like an atom, or a part of an atom and it hummed like it was spinning really fast. The hum permeated the whole universe and tickled so good that laughter erupted from deep inside and spilled out uncontrollable, the breath and the movement disturbing the calm candle light. The humming 'thing' was undividable, nothing simpler existed, and it appeared to be some crystalized form of extreme joy.

As the candles flickered under the turbulence of laughter, the dream began to fade and a rebuilding of personality took place. Psychopomp was introduced into the rebuilding and the emurgant personality was not me: it was something calculated and evil and ugly and sexually devious. There was a fear that existed here, also, of the emurgent personality, but it felt so necessary to let it out. Somehow it seemed to twist the joy energy coming from the crystal joy into something not wholely pure. This personality was exercised in stretching and sexual forms and eventually faded and exited the stage of awareness. There is something mean that lives in here; it will need to be examined further at some other time.

Effects remained pretty steady for a couple of hours (the peak roared in and along heavy like iron train wheels for a good hour and a half). During the peak a +4 may have been experienced; being the first, there is nothing to make subjective conclusions from, but much of the experience was so deep and involved and complicated and other dimensional, that it was almost immediately forgotten, the subtlety of the deep brush strokes smoothed over with the insistant and awakening banality of life outside the gates of 4-AcO-DiPT's beauty (when thoughts like "dude, maybe I should write my first trip report" float across the glowing interior heaven-scape mortality crashes down like an iron cage, a fly fighting to rip from the sticky ego strip that has him caught).

Sleep was had after 7 hours, it was not possible before then. Although, there were times when dreaming during the peak that being awake and being asleep were indistinguishable, and didn't matter one way or the other.

I can't hang words on this one. It's a gem, it's beautiful, special, lovely, wicked awsome. It took me somewhere I wish I didn't have to forget, and reminded me of something I will not ever forget- god is love.
 
I usually don't even read trip reports, much less respond. But I enjoyed this simply for that last part, "God is love," something I didn't realize/understand until the first time I tried LSD. Thank you for your contribution.
 
Awsome! I've still not tried this one, but not because of lack of desire. Have you had 4-Ho-DiPT? Would you say they compare, or or they different experiences? Most people volunteer that they are quite different but I always like to ask. Definitely lasts longer...with iprocin little remains after 4hr.
 
Regretably, 4-HO-DiPT has not yet been sampled. The AcO lasted long enough to leave one exausted yet not strung out.

Tremors and tryptamines have never equated to side effects (here), the tremors sometimes feel healing, a forced energy release from the Facia.
 
4-ho-dipt and 4-aco-dipt are significantly different. The ho has a very quick onset and some visuals. The aco comes on more smoothly and feels "friendly" when compared the 4-ho, and is very visually lacking. Both are good materials, though.
 
Great report! Sounds like you had a great experience. I'm glad!

I also like the line about how god is love. This weekend was a wonderful one for me and I was thinking a lot about that. When your energy is flowing properly (improper flow being manifested as anxiety, depression, etc), love seems to be the natural state. This past month I have been able to consistently keep up an outward flow of love and joy from myself, felt in my solar plexus and heart chakra as a radiating force. Our objective in life should be to simply spread love around to every living thing that we can. Not only does this help ourselves out, since making someone else feel good likewise makes you feel good, but it also helps you indirectly, in the sense that every living thing is a separate incarnation of the one universal consciousness, which is also who you are. The idea, then, is that we should make life as pleasant as possible for everyone, because in another incarnation, that person or animal or other form of life whose life you made better is you having your life made better. If we all did nothing but love, then love is all there would be. By being cruel or unfair to others, we are only hurting ourselves in another iteration of life.

Of course that is an ideal situation that seems like it will never happen. But ideals are still good to try to live by.

:)
 
Nice report BreakingSet. The more I read about the uniqueness of 4-aco-dipt and 4-ho-dipt the more my interest is piqued.

BreakingSet said:
During the peak a +4 may have been experienced

You’ll know when you’ve reached a "++++". There will be no question of it in your mind. However, unlike the lower ratings on Shulgin’s scale, I find the ++++ designation problematic. Even using a single substance, there are numerous emphatically distinct and powerful experiences--ego death, rapturous glossolalia, and extra-spatial perception, among others--that one can have that don’t necessarily follow from the dose they took, and that, due to their rarity, cannot be subsumed under the +++ heading. Shulgin’s description of a ++++ is just the most classical variant of these
 
Great report!! 4-aco-dipt is a chem that has always seemed to jump out at me but I've yet to try it...

Your experience speaks volumes about its potential i think!
 
Xorkoth said:
[...] Our objective in life should be to simply spread love around to every living thing that we can.
Of course that is an ideal situation[...]
:)

Indeed. I adapted a statement from the Jesus myth to fit more practically into actual life: Judge not, lest you judge yourself also. And I don't mean judge as in purely negative condemnation, I mean if you've judged yourself worthy of the glory that really loving yourself provides, then judge others in the same light. I know the more beautiful I feel, the more beauty I find reflected back.

And the more beautiful you make others feel only adds to their glow which is, in a round about way, your reflection.

In fact and coincidentally, Xorkoth, this experience was decided upon because for the last couple of days something 'poison' has manifested in the heart area. What it equated to in my personal equation is that the only thing that has ever stopped me from achieving, from realizing my dreams, from getting what I need to get out of the situations I build in life- is me. Something in me, an aspect of myself for some reason, is the only force that has ever really stopped me. It has something, well, a lot to do with fear, but I haven't rooted it yet.
 
^^ I think that's true with all of us. I wonder why that is?

In fact, I would go so far as to say that the only force that ever prevents a person from attaining anything they want, other than death, is of their own making.
 
Xorkoth said:
^^ I think that's true with all of us. I wonder why that is?

In fact, I would go so far as to say that the only force that ever prevents a person from attaining anything they want, other than death, is of their own making.

Of Their Own making, indeed. I suppose it's what keeps every one of us separate from others, what allows us to create Identity in separateness. As we are (at least physically) separate entities, we long for connection, hence our need to love. Yet we must remain separate, for this is our (physical) condition - and in "this" (physical) life, that which we consciously know best, where we have our social identity (name, upbringing, personal history, ethnicity, nationality...) we protect ourselves from what we perceive as self-dissolution - in order to affirm our social identity (that which enables us to see ourselves as separate, distinct beings...how most if not all of us on some level define ourselves). hence fear- a prerequisite for physical survival.

Unconditional love would equate total absence of fear and thus, in that logic, utter self-dissolution (in the sense of the separate physical self... all boundaries would literally dissolve on an emotional level and consequently probably on a physical level... our illusion of separateness would vanish and so would our physical manifestations.... maybe). Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
 
I think this might be my favorite 4-xx-tryptamine. How do you hang words on something that is ineffable? To say it's beautiful stuff is an understatement.

Thanks for the report!

Ximot, your comment reminded me of a part of The New Alchemy by Alan Watts that I was reading last night:

To become the sensations, as distinct from having them, engenders the most astonishing sense of freedom and release. For it implies that experience is not something in which one is trapped or by which one is pushed around, or against which one must fight. The conventional duality of subject and object, knower and known, feeler and feeling, is changed into a polarity: the knower and the known become the poles, terms, or phases of a single event which happens, not to me or from me, but of itself. The experiencer and the experience become a single, ever-changing self-forming process, complete and fulfilled at every moment of its unfolding, and of infinite complexity and subtlety. It is like, not watching, but being, a coiling arabesque of smoke patterns in the air, or of ink dropped in water, or of a dancing snake which seems to move from every part of its body at once. This may be a "drug-induced hallucination," but it corresponds exactly to what Dewey and Bentley have called the transactional relationship of the organism to its environment. This is to say that all our actions and experiences arise mutually from the organism and from the environment at the same time. The eyes can see light because of the sun, but the sun is light because of the eyes. Ordinarily, under the hypnosis of social conditioning, we feel quite distinct from our physical surroundings, facing them rather than belonging in them. Yet in this way we ignore and screen out the physical fact of our total interdependence with the natural world. We are as embodied in it as our own cells and molecules are embodied in us. Our neglect and repression of this interrelationship gives special urgency to all the new sciences of ecology, studying the interplay of organisms with their environments, and warning us against ignorant interference with the balances of nature.

... I could see that the intricate organization both of the plants and of my own nervous system, like symphonies of branching complexity, were not just manifestations of intelligence—as if things like intelligence and love were in themselves substances or formless forces. It was rather that the pattern itself is intelligence and is love, and this somehow in spite of all its outwardly stupid and cruel distortions.

There is probably no way of finding objective verification for insights such as this. The world is love to him who treats it as such, even when it torments and destroys him, and in states of consciousness where there is no basic separation between the ego and the world suffering cannot be felt as malice inflicted upon oneself by another. By the same logic it might seem that with out the separation of self and other there can be no love. This might be true if individuality and universality were formal opposites, mutually exclusive of one another, if, that is, the inseparability of self and other meant that all individual differentiations were simply unreal. But in the unitary, or nondualistic, view of the world I have been describing this is not so. Individual differences express the unity, as branches, leaves, and flowers from the same plant, and the love between the members is the realization of their basic interdependence.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/alchemy.htm

If you haven't taken the time to read this, I highly recommend it. Take 20 minutes and read this beautiful essay on the psychedelic experience.
 
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^Outstanding essay. Watts should be prerequisite for any continuing education in psychedelics. In his assertion that, “A chicken is one eggs way of producing others”, he eloquently exemplifies the sense of perfection in the moment and absence of end purposes that the psychedelic state makes so readily apparent. Love that quote. I think there’s more to it than the wow factor being imported to it by the waning effects of this mescaline/2C-E combo I’m experiencing too…
 
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