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4-AcO-DET - Experienced - Pain of the World

That was a beautiful read. The words flowed like running water.
Although I have never tripped, I can relate to the intense feelings of pain you described, and how you know it is not your pain, but other's.
Last year I had a really nasty episode of depression and psychosis, i've got bi-polar. And throughout the whole ordeal I turned to spiritual paths to find comfort from the extreme pain I was feeling from those around me. I would pick up negative energy off any person I was near, it was one of the most unbelievably painful experiences of my life.
Every waking moment I was sucking in negative energy from all around me. I would feel the pain of the man standing next to me in an elevator, or the person serving me at the petrol station. It would hurt me to the extent that I would feel ill and just want to curl into a ball and cry.
Eventually the pain subsided and I was able to get on with my life, I still meditate daily, and carry crystals around with me all day to help me weed out the negative energy of the world.
It does sound like you are trying to be told something. And I wish you the best of luck and health in your journey.
If it were me I would open myself up and meditate to see what planes I journey to and what answers I need to find.
 
At some point, my mind turned to the current events of the world, and the trip took a dramatic new direction. Slowly I began to experience some of the most painful and discomforting sensations and emotions I have ever known. I was lost in this endless black sea of uncertainty, fear and misery. It was the pain and fear of the repressed, persecuted, and disadvantaged people of the world. I could see and feel innumerable souls in that space with me, and all were in enormous pain and anguish. And I experienced this pain with them. I experienced the hurt of the world. In addition, I experienced that life would soon change drastically. I felt unforeseen but unspecific dangers, and I felt terrible pain and suffering coming in the future, and I just had the general feeling that something very bad was going to happen. It is actually more valid to say I did not feel these sensations, but in fact my sole existence was the sensations. It was very difficult to take it.
MGS,
I don't know if you'll recall, but shortly after you posted a +4 2C-I experience on erowid, I sent you a brief email about a similar +4 experience I'd had on mushrooms. . ..
Just today I had an experience with 2C-I with a *lot* of similarities to your experience on 4-ACO-DET... I'll post a report sometime shortly....
*sigh*....
 
If I recall correctly, the email you are referring to was in reference to my Giving of the Flesh 2C-I report. In fact, I'm pretty damn sure I saved your email because I thought it amazing we had such similar experiences.
I've been in contact with numerous "psychonauts" that I talk to from a time to time and there seems to be a lot of these type of trips being experienced. It's just the negative energy in the world related with all that is going on I believe.
We are all connected into a universal consciousness; it’s just that some of us are more open and willing to tune into and connect ourselves to this universal consciousness. Those of us who make ourselves receptive to general consciousness of the universe are going to pick up on these vibes. I pray every day now for things to get better in the world. I bid you tend your prayers to keep.
I look foward to hearing of your 2C-I experience.
 
Getting a bit off-topic...
At my job today, I spoke on the phone with a woman who said her cousin had leukemia, and was awaiting a bone marrow transplant.
Any further consideration on your resolution to make a donation? ... not to put pressure on you, of course. I know that marrow donation is nothing to be taken lightly, and I applaud your intentions. Feel free to e-mail me....
 
Really really amazing trip report, well articulated and detailed on your emotions on the drug. Hope sometime you would make sense of the experiences you had on the drug.
 
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