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3rd LSD Trip inc. 2 Failed onces, need help.

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Hello bluelighters, I need help. I've tripped on LSD twice before and both times it was not what I was looking for. Both times were off the same batch from my dealer, when I talked to him he said that taking 2 would already be enough. I don't know, I think other people are looking for simply a body high or something to pass the time on drugs, whereas I do it completely for the mental mind opening experience part.

Anyways, he told me that each blotter was 100 ug (I know there is no way to really know, but lets pretend its true). I took 2 for my first time and nothing really happened, it was actually kind of uncomfortable and I really didn't, couldn't, think of anything. The second time I took 3.5 blotters (he said this was a lot), this was a lot more comfortable this time and for the most part I enjoyed it. But this was almost like smoking weed, I had fun for awhile, and it was a nice body high, but I did not really gain anything from it, I didn't really have any wild thoughts or anything, and it was no where near the level that I've been reading on erowid.

Now, I had given up on LSD and decided to just let it find me. My dealer called me about a week ago and said he had a new batch. The blotters are on plain white paper and they seemed to be cut (unlike the design of the first batch with cool colors and had uniform tabs that I could tear apart) I don't know if this matters, but he said these were around 150ug and he said hes done them and they are definitely stronger than the other ones. I purchased 6 blotters.

Ok so on to my question, I need help from experienced people. I am a very "all or nothing" kind of guy. I hate failed drug experiences and I feel like I'm just trashing my body for no reason. I want the ego death and rebirth and the wild thoughts and the full on LSD experience. How many blotters should I take? Should I just pop all 6? I'm going into this with the right mindset, but from the bad trip experiences I've been reading, I just dont want to end up having to call the cops or anything because of the trip being too intense, that would be the worst. Am I worrying too much? What should I do... I guess im just looking for someone to say "FUCK IT JUST EAT THEM" haha. Last question, I use to be an etard and with MDMA lets say I took 2 pills, then 2 hours later i would take 2 more, the last 2 would only really "prolong" the experience instead of boosting it. Is it the same with LSD? I am wondering because I am thinking of maybe just eating 4 then taking 2 1-2 hours later depending on what happens. But I don't really want to prolong the trip at all if it is not enough, I want to boost it to the point where it would be enough. Thank you!!! sorry I know this was long.

Um yeah title doesnt make sense sorry. "2 failed trips" i mean.
 
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No, you should not take 6 doses of what is potentially the first good doses you have received. I'd try to get a recommendation from someone else, or even the dealer, just someone that can give you an idea of what you have. You definitely don't want to take way too much, even if you're an all or nothing kind of guy. A decent 100 microgram dose would be perfect, and since you really don't know what that first blotter even was, you should definitely experiment with this blotter wisely, not pushing your limits.
 
Yes LSD seems (in my experience) to behave similarly to redosing as MDMA. Maybe more so, because of the massive, very fast tolerance increase.

I'd take 3. Of course there's no legitimate reason I can give you for that number, but if I were in your position I'd take 3.

Or maybe 2.5 actually.
 
Thanks for the replies guys, I did actually ask my dealer, he said go for 2 if you want a good one, 3 is borderline intense. The thing is I think hes really different from me, the first batch he sold me he said "take 2 and have a blast" I took 2 and was really uncomfortable and did not like it at all. It wasnt untill the 2nd time where I took 3.5 that I kinda of enjoyed it and had a "glimpse" into what it *could* be (although im sure im far off since people say you never know it untill you really experience it, and youll know). I can't really imagine 100ug being anything fun at all for me. I think I'm going to take your advice, nearjat, and take 3.

My question is, if I feel great but no ego death or anything should I take more maybe 2 hours into it? From most of the stuff I've been reading it seems like LSD is a completely new experience at high doses which is why I'm even here. I just want to be careful.
 
If I buy a bunch of acid and I'm not sure how strong or weak they are I usually eat one tab just to figure it out myself.

I know you said when you took a low dose it made you feel uncomfortable but this is an easy way to guage how much your going to need for a breakthrough.

If you'd rather not take one and avoid possibly feeling uncomfortable then I'd say take 4 or 5 in a trip safe enviroment with a sober, trustworthy sitter. So even if you do go through ego-loss or a mind-shattering experience your sitter can keep you safe and secure.


*In regards to redosing, by the time you figure out you want more it will probably only prolong your trip not intensify it. If your a regular weed smoker try smoking some after the peak and it definelty enhances lucy's effects.
 
Thanks for the replies, and yeah both my trips and 3rd one as well will safely be at home with the person that is closest to me (my brother) he will be sober. What I want to know is, just HOW bad is a "bad trip". I consider myself a pretty level headed and strong willed and I'm pretty ready. The only thing thats holding me back right now are these horrifying trip reports I am reading on erowid haha. I would take one to gauge it because I say uncomfortable but its not like unbearable or anything, like being really drunk, uncomfortable but not impossible to deal with. The only thing is I've only done LSD once so I don't trust my ability to gauge it and I also don't want to fail twice again lol. I dont really like taking drugs during school, im on winterbreak right now. So its now or never for me (for awhile haha.)
 
Try and get rid of any preconceived notions of the "ideal trip" you want. You're going in the right direction with your thoughts, but it's just better to accept whatever happens.

Be somewhere comfortable, no responsibilities for the day, and the day following if possible.

Yes, a bad trip can be fucking horrific. But often times these bad trips aren't necessarily "bad", just "difficult". Thats a common saying here lol. Sometimes there are things in our heads that a trip can bring to the surface, that aren't necessarily fun to dwell on. But often times a trip can help you work these things out.

Don't worry about bad trips, you'll be fine no matter what. Unless you dose retarded amounts, or you're mentally unstable, a bad trip won't result in emergency situations.
 
If you didn't trip from 2 or 3.5 hits of the first stuff you got and you're dealer says the new stuff is only 50% more potent, then you may need to take quite a few to get the desired effect. I don't know if I'd trust what he's saying though, as it doesn't sound like the last ones were 100 ug if 3.5 reminded you of weed. :\

Blotter potency can vary a lot not only batch to batch, but even sometimes certain parts of the same sheet have different strengths.

Sometimes 1 hit has sent me to the moon. Some times 4 hits is required. I usually find 3 to be the magical number to get a good trip for most of the acid that I can get.

If you really want to get a good acid experience I would suggest getting a larger amount so you can test how strong it is. If you buy 15-20 hits, you can test out 2 and see how that goes, then 3 or 4 and so on until you reach the desired level. If all of your hits are from the same part of the sheet, they'll likely be very close in strength.
 
OP, you seem as though you might be asking for a bit too much from just one experience. I understand that you're anxious to have what you consider a "psychedelic breakthrough" (not referring to a breakthrough as though in relation to DMT, but simply an epiphany or something equivalent), because I've been in a similar situation before. Just don't weigh it down with too many expectations, you'll be fine. And if I were in your place, I'd take 2 tabs. What if you take 3 tabs, and you're underwhelmed again? You're stuck with a dose of equivalent potency that you know is lower than you want next time. If you do 2 and you're satisfied or underwhelmed then you will know how much to aim for next time and you have room to adjust better. Plus, I think 2 tabs sounds like a fairly safe prospect.
 
If you have a responsible sitter to keep you safe, the worst a bad trip could really get is feeling scared/miserable for a few hours. The most common 'bad trip' is when you get caught in a negative thought loop. If you feel yourself going in a direction that is only going to lead to anxiety/fear/etc., try changing the setting, either by going to another room or simply changing music, light levels, activity, wrapping up in a nice blanket, etc.

How experienced are you with other psychedelics? Aiming right for a high dose experience if you're not comfortable with tripping in general is not the best idea. You can't know that you want the most intense experience psychedelics can offer if you're not familiar with the less extreme levels first. Since you seem unfamiliar with the mechanics of a so-called 'bad trip', I think it may be a bit premature to try to reach heroic doses of a very powerful psychedelic like LSD. Get there gradually.

As for your failed experiences... Most likely it was either bad product or you are very hard-headed. How knowledgeable is your supplier? If LSD is handled improperly it can degrade and become completely inactive relatively quickly. If the previous batch was stored poorly or was contaminated with moisture or something at some point, that may account for him thinking it was strong and you feeling little to nothing. Also, I don't know your source, but 100 and 150 ug tabs are quite rare these days, so either you are blessed with a rather good source or those numbers are BS. I'll leave it to you to decide which :P But unless there is something very odd with your body chemistry or usual mental state, 350ug of LSD (your second 'failed' dose with only a minor body high) should have been a fairly intense experience.

Storing the tabs above around 60-70F for long will cause them to degrade over time. Prolonged exposure to light will do the same, as will condensation. Another common mistake: did you take the tabs with tap water? The minute amount of chlorine present in tap water will completely destroy the LSD molecules.
 
The thing about psychedelics is that your dosage is far from the only element that determines the quality of your trip. I've had life changing 40 mic experiences and utterly boring 250+ mic trips. Apart from taking the drugs, try to make arrangements to be surrounded by beauty, or things your mind will be excited about.

Once I was able to move past "wanting" my high, I got so much farther. When I was focused on wanting more, I didn't notice what I was actually being given.

I'd start with one or even half of one blotter (to be economical) and then go about my day. That will give you some sense of what you are in for when you decide to trip for real. This is also safe(r) as a general rule for all substances, especially considering what your dealer is telling you isn't matching up to your own experience. Not to imply he's not honest, but you can really only 100% trust test results, not people. There are materials that fit on blotter that can be unpleasant at 6x the base dose.
 
The first tabs might have been stronger when your dealer took them than they were when you received them.
 
I think you should take 2 to start with as the above poster said. If time is allowed then you can wait about 5 days for your tolerance to go down and then you will hopefully have enough to get as far as you want to go. If 2 tabs gives you the same feelings as your other trip, then 4 on your second try with this batch will probably give you the whole spectrum of a psychedelic experience on LSD. It's such a beautiful chemical. I hope you get to experience a full blown trip! Happy trails.
 
Thanks a lot for the replies guys, I guess I'll go with 2, hopefully I'll see some tracers this time :) I'm fairly experienced with drugs, smoked weed for 3 years, done a fair share of MDMA, only a little shrooms, and salvia (only once though lol!). My setting of course is going to be at home during winterbreak with my brother as a sober trip sitter.

I think I'm just expecting too much maybe... I mean my first drug other than weed was MDMA and it really changed my life so drastically that I cant even imagine myself without it.. Probably just some dumbass kid lol, I was hoping LSD to really open my mind up like MDMA did and more, thats why I'm so eager to do high doses, because to me my previous trips are like doing MDMA and not getting the magic, kind of a waste of time to me because you dont really gain too much from it. Also of reading stuff like the high dose appreciation thread and erowid reports :). But I am going to take everyones advice and go for 2 first.

Can someone that has done high doses (~1000ug) clarify for me? How different is a low dose from high dose?
 
When it comes down to "life changing" trips, dose has little to do with it. Literally everything comes into play. Where you are, who you are, how you feel, who you're with. The acid trip that did to me what you're describing was with only 2 hits, with close friends, in a nature reserve :)
 
At ~200 mics I see well more than tracers and I'd say I have a significant tolerance. LSD is far more intense than MDMA in terms of thoughts and visuals (and feelings, although it can be scarier). You can't really be prepared for something you haven't experienced yet, but the main thing is to let go & trust yourself.
 
Your blotter probably is not as strong as you are told it is.

Unless you have a very high body weight, 200 micrograms of clean d-LSD should have made you TRIP, not just feel like weed or something. However, there are those who start out with 200 mics, and it really isn't what they are looking for, what they are looking for is the high dose effects. But you DEFINITELY don't want to jump straight to a high dose without even tripping on low dose before.

Smoke weed, it will enhance the visual aspect. And the regimen recommended above sounds good to me, take 2 first and see how that goes. Then, you will have 4 left, so if it wasn't nearly as intense as you wanted, you can take them all. However, 2 might be totally sufficient, it just depends on the strength. DO NOT REDOSE with LSD, like if you want to trip harder. It WILL NOT WORK, it is a WASTE OF ACID. Tolerance shoots up 45 min. after ingestion, and ingesting more after that will just increase the duration and not the intensity, in general. Wait at least 5-7 days between doses, to make sure you avoid tolerance.
 
At ~200 mics I see well more than tracers and I'd say I have a significant tolerance
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What do you mean? You have natural tolerance and need higher doses than most? I am assuming that you DID NOT mean that your tolerance is high because you are dosing every 3 days or something.

To the OP: You will know when you are where you want to be. The lysergic bliss will take over.
 
What do you mean? You have natural tolerance and need higher doses than most? I am assuming that you DID NOT mean that your tolerance is high because you are dosing every 3 days or something.
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Lately I take tryptamines around once a week and other drugs with cross-tolerance once every two weeks. So most of the time when I take acid I have some tolerance going on. I was referring to OP's comments where he said he'd thought he'd taken around 200 mics (2 tabs) and hadn't even seen tracers. I was just basically trying to say the same thing you said in your above post but not as clearly.
 
Just take one to see if you trip. It's the only logical, non-arbitrary number. I've had mind blowing experiences off just one hit of really good acid.
Then don't re-dose that same night as it will most likely be a waste of the acid. Take the remaining hits at a later date.
Being "all or nothing" doesn't really make sense in this case because you don't even know what the true potential of just one blotter is.
If the one hit works out for you, then sure why not take the remaining 5 at once and your mind will be really really blown.

Whatever you do have fun :)
 
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