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(3C-P / 60mg) - First Time - Subtlety at its Finest

GingerTripper

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Wow. Well here it goes then.
Me, and my two new neighbors in my new dorm building all were included in this trip. I took 60mg, and they took 45 each, but I hadn't eaten for over a day (I'd just been asleep a lot...I'm not anorexic, lol.)
We all took it around 8:10, and I expected about an hour to an hour and a half of waiting. My neighbors C and T left to go change because they came back from the gym, and I was playing Minecraft :). They asked if I wanted to smoke hookah with them, and their girlfriends, and I said yes, but they asked me to not mention we were on anything because C's girlfriend wouldn't take kindly to it. This is important because had I been in an open environment, I would have acted on a lot of my stimulated thoughts.

Bear with me, I did not have a source of time to get exact times after I left my room, and also, my memory was not too great because I didn't have a notepad.

+1:00 (9:10): In my room, feeling a little bit of a head buzz, kind of a normal pre-phenethylamine come up feeling, maybe placebo. I had a headache all day, but it wasn't QUITE there yet. It just barely was hurting the back of my head, probably from not eating for so long. I have been drinking a decent amount of water to keep hydrated.

+1:50 (10:00): A change of setting to the common room where I met my neighbor's girlfriend was the situation. I usually have horrible anxiety with meeting people, and to be honest, I would usually be a lot more nervous just being around people as new as these neighbors (I've only been in this building for a week). I feel calm, and actually kind of happy to meet someone. Words flow out of my mouth so easily. My neighbor sets up his hookah, and we all start to smoke it while watching Reservoir Dogs. Throughout this whole movie, I was noticing a lot of mental relaxation.

I could feel anxious, and I could tell my heart was beating through my chest, but instead of being frightened, the anxiety just melted into a smooth, mellow pleasure. It was kind of unique for me to experience this. Commenting on the movie made me feel very social, and I was getting along with people great. There was a definite euphoria. My muscles were not notably tense like on substances such as DOC, or even 25i. I feel like ever stretch of my leg is a warm, connected signal that my body is functioning perfectly. Everything just feels right.

While sitting, I get the same urge that hits me with really nice acid where all I want to do is spread my limbs out and stretch as far as possible. I get this pestering thought of just laying on the floor and stretching for the sake of life, but I remained still to not look stupid, and I was fine with that.

+3:00 (~11:00) Lights are turned on, and BOOM. The visual distortion hits. Unlike my experience with 2C-I, the visuals are not screaming in a cartoon fashion. They are VERY subtle, and VERY relaxing. I could start to see in the borders of my total view that there was a pulsating glow of color. It was interesting. The carpet shimmered, and the room felt like it was just one of my limbs; totally connected, and living, and breathing, and just being!

Smoking is starting to give upset my already present headache. Whenever I smoke hookah on an empty stomach, I get horrible nausea, but this time, everything is directed to my head. The top of my head is just solid, and almost in excruciating pain, but it doesn't ruin the experience because I know things like that happen. Why would I stop participating in a social event? Why should I lie down? Why ignore the beauty of life just because I have a headache?

+3:30 (~11:30) We started to watch a third movie, this time I got to choose. I chose the movie "Rubber" on Netflix. It is about a homicidal tire that has psychic powers. The movie was awesome, but the music that came on just stood out like a sore thumb. There was classical, there was jazz, there was electronic. The sounds were just amazing. I could feel every note of the music so much more than on any other trip. The frequencies were like the taste of a tangy candy after eating nothing but dry oatmeal. I'm not sure if that metaphor makes sense, but it's the closest I can come to explaining how vibrant the sounds were. I wanted to experience synesthesia so badly because of how amazing the music sounded, but I just couldn't get that far.

+4:30 (~12:30) We finished watching Netflix, and eventually we all had to stand up. My motor skills felt on par with about 6 shots. I was wobbly, and my arms were freely flowing, but yet again, I felt no worry that anybody wanted to judge me. C tells his girlfriend to check out my drawings in my room (I am an art major and I have psychedelic drawings all over my wall. Here's pictures of them). When they walk into my room, I had my "lights" on which made them all hypnotized. I have a 16 foot ribbon of LED's, and when I trip, I turn all of my lights off and turn on the mode where it fades between every color on the spectrum. All of these people complimenting me on my room just made me feel even more welcome than ever before. This just put me in a great mood. When everybody went in their own room, I sat on my bed, and listened to Zedd's "Clarity", and turned my color strobe mode on, and I felt like I was being pushed into another dimension of time. The song was beautiful, and I felt great. I attempted to play xbox, but I couldn't really think too straight because of my headache, so I gave up pretty quickly.

+7:00 (~3:00) After listening to music and watching YouTube and just enjoying my usually daily rituals on a whole new level, I decide to go to sleep.......hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. The very second I turned my lights off, I felt peaceful, and as if I could just fall right asleep...but wait, what's that little shimmering light in my vision? Is that an eye? Then FLASH! A witch is on my ceiling staring into my god damn soul, and she shocks between an x-ray view of here skeletal system, and a view of her as a natural human. I tried to laugh at it and get it out of my vision like I do on LSD or others, but this was something of pure evil. I couldn't wish her away. I turned the lights on as soon as possible, and decided that I would just not sleep.

+9:00 (~5:00) I am exhausted, but still slightly euphoric. Visuals are apparent...and almost more so than during the come up or "peak". All I really want to do is sleep, but I remembered that the food hall was serving a good breakfast because it was Friday, so I decided to just start getting ready for that. Until 7 AM, I just watched my Season 4 set of Friends (I love this show.) The show makes me laugh, but I feel more connected to the lives of those in the show. It is the season where Rachel puts on her cheer leading outfit to seduce Joshua and I couldn't have felt more badly for her. It was almost embarrassing for me to watch her go through with it. Eventually, I got out of my bed and I took a shower.

+11:00 (~7:00) I'm feeling a lot more at baseline than before. I am noticing a pretty hefty shift between my loving euphoria, to an almost stingy hatred for the fact that I haven't eaten or slept in over a day, but I am also excited for my breakfast. My shower was amazing. I love the feeling of washing all of the "psychedelic night"-ness off of me. lol. It's just so refreshing.

+11:10 (7:10 AM) In the food hall I feel pretty normal. No anxiety, no over thinking, and no worries. I do feel dreadfully tired, but I just got bacon, eggs, hash browns, sausage, and pancakes. The food was so amazing, I literally called my mom to tell her how good it was (not my best decision).

This whole trip was interesting. It was subtle in every sense of the word. It eased me into it's expansive potential, and let me explore it's depths at my own discretion. The visuals were not overbearing, and were a beautiful compliment to lifted mood I was in. I feel like the main aspect of this trip was my mood, and my sense of sound. Music was the most stimulating feature for me, and my mood followed right behind. I loved the ability to think rationally, and see life in a new way without the anxiety I usually get with other substances. I attempted to sleep at around 9 AM, and I "woke up" at 1 PM, but I don't think I really slept, but rather just hallucinated in an idle state of mind. Whether or not I did technically "sleep" I feel neutral. I do not crave sleep as usual, but I am not as refreshed and hyped up as other times. I am just alive, and being, and happy to be.

This is an amazing compound. I wrote all of this while on my 2nd experiment with a 50mg dose. I will write up a report on that as soon as it's over. I spent this night alone to make sure I could explore everything comfortably, and that made A HUGE difference.
 
A very well writted trip report, thank's a lot. This little gem is pretty rare but one I have been keeping my eye on.

Could you please compare it to some of the 2c-x phenethylamines?

Thanks :D

edit: I just noticed you were talking about 3c-p not 3c-e >.< I am still equally interested though!
 
^ It's worth noting if you weren't already aware that the 3C-Xs don't have much in common with the 2C-Xs.

3C-P is to Proscaline as 3C-E is to Escaline as TMA is to Mescaline. :)

The naming is even more confusing because 3C-P and Proscaline both contain Propyloxy groups, rather than just a Propyl group like 2C-P.

Of course they can still be compared with the 2C-Xs but don't expect similarities between say 3C-P and 2C-P, or 3C-E and 2C-E - there'll mostly just be general similarities that these substances share with a lot of other phenethylamines.

Forgot to mention in my old post but nice report man. :)
 
cool thanks for spelling that out, I had assumed that due to the structures but the information is so scarce I thought I would ask anyway.

I really want to try one of the 3c-x, or the -scalines or a TMA but I cannot for the life of me choose!

...looks like it is going to have to be all of them 8(
 
Yeah. There was very little correlation between any of my 2C-x experiences and my experience with 3C-P other than the colors and slight headspace. Other than that, I would say the 2C's are much more obvious, with a firm grip on your mind. Hope that helps. I must say though. 3C-P feels like a great candidate for combinations with other, less empathetic chemicals.
 
Nice report :)

Regarding the timeline / duration and insomnia (and also anorectic effects), would you say that you might almost just as well use a DOX? Or in between DOX and mescaline?
Remember this question is not about the actual content and psychedelic effects but rather about things like the impact on energy i.e. exhaustion...
 
My last two 3C-P experiences were one week apart. I went to the gym the next day to chase a handball around a court for cardio and I felt like an old man. The vasoconstriction wasn't really an issue the first week like it might have been with a DOX but it was much more pronounced the second week. I'm not sure if that owed to the relatively short interval between the trips or other independent factors. Hitting the ball seemed to be almost painful, like my pain tolerance was lowered, and my endurance was extremely reduced. Like DOX, 3C-P is stimulating and long lived. It may impact sleep, which might explain why I felt so ragged the next day. I really enjoyed 3C-P -- it's about as euphoric as psychedelics get without entering empathogen territory -- but for me it's something to be taken only once in a while and as early in the day as possible.
 
Solipsis, yeah, I'd say it would be more worth it to either take a low dose DOx (or high if visuals are what you want). It seemed like the 3C-P's psychedelic effects wore off about a third of the way into the whole experience. The rest of the time after "coming down" was just being awake but really tired and depressed. I'd rather be tripping til the end like a DOx.
 
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