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300mg Ms-Contin safe for non-tollerent user.

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I recently suffered an injury to my ribs and sternum requiring surgery to reattach costial cartilage from my ribs to sternum. I was given Oxycontin for post surgery at 30mg but have yet to take any. Im trying to work myself out of a depression that ive been in for far too long and the last thing i need is to begin taking Oxycontin. Instead Ive been taking 200mg-300mg of Ms-Contin (morphine sulfate extended release) in the morning for the pain. I find that morphine sulfate doesnt give me any kind of euphoria or high to speak of. Im trying to stay away from chemical induced euphoria.

I have almost 0 tolerance to opiates, but 300mg of morphine sulfate doesnt seem to be too strong. Am i safe taking this dose?
 
300mg of morphine is a lot, but I don't understand your question, you're saying you're non tolerant but you do 300mg and feel almost nothing?

Either you need another opiate, or this one is sufficient at controlling your pain, whithout giving you any form of euphoria. In any case, you shouldn't be self-medicating with strong opiates, and it should be your doctor prescribing you the opiate in question.
 
Before this injury i had only taken opiates maybe on 10 separate occasions in my entire life. Nothing impressive either. Ive taken Hydrocodone and oxyxodone. I just remember that the feeling from oxycodone was quite desirable and i dont wish to put myself in a vulnerable spot to get addicted. The morphine has absolutely no euphoric effects, it just gets rid of the pain. It only works for the pain at 200mg or more however.
 
7 days now. The first day i took 100mg with minimal effects. from day 2 on, ive taken 100mg first thing in the morning plus another 100mg about 6 hours later. One day i took 300mg, but i dont think i will go more than 200mg again.
 
Jeez, what quack of a doctor is prescribing you that? I have arrived at the only conclusion that makes sense to me, these were not prescribed to you for this.

Call your doctor and inform them that their pain management treatment is not meeting your needs.

Something I found....interesting?:
the last thing i need is to begin taking Oxycontin. Instead Ive been taking 200mg-300mg of Ms-Contin
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Sounds like the definition of irony. What's so bad about oxycodone, that makes morphine a better alternative? IMO, one of the major differences is that the oxycodone will be absorbed much better taken orally due to it's high oral BA, unlike the morphine which undergoes extensive first pass metabolism AND already has a low bioavailability.
 
Oxycodone is great don't get me wrong. Ive struggled with severe depression and anxiety for a long time and find myself vulnerable to abusing drugs with euphoriant properties. That's why I'm using morphine instead. Im just wanting to know if I'm putting myself at physical danger by taking a high dose of morphine
 
I'm in a similar position having managed to shatter my knee, requiring a fair bit of metal work in order to hold it all together.

Whilst I had IV and oral morphine in hospital in the UK Tramadol is far more popular, ASAIK Oxy is not so widely prescribed in the UK as it is in the States. I can't take Tramadol as I'm already taking Venflaxine for depression so they gave me MS Contin at 60mgs a day ( half in the morning half at night ).

My doctor wants me to taper off but I'm struggling to do due to the pain which is actually worse since they have removed the cast and put a metal support on my leg which allows the knee to move a little.

That dose sounds very high, I have no opiate tolerance either. That said I'm going to speak to my doctor in the week and see if he can switch me to something else as I'm not convinced the MS Contin is working that well for me, he wants me down to 20mgs a day before he switches me down to something else, I suspect a codeine and APAP tablet.

He wants to take 4g of APAP daily now and I've already said I'm not going to take that much and only take 2g, I was a heavy drinker for a good while up until a year ago, my liver needs a rest:)

I'm not sure what a better option is going to be, I'm not convinced my doctor has really been given all the right information from the hospital, I go there and they are telling me that I need to be prepared for long term pain from this mess, hopefully I'll get it sorted put next week.

You have to take this up with your doctor, living in pain will grind you down, but I understand there is a balance. Rock and a hard place:\

Best of Luck
 
I talked to my doctor today and he had me return my unopened bottle of oxycontin to the pharmacy. he understood my concern and prescribed me 100mg of ultram alongside 40mg of morphine sulfate IR. He said i could take the morphine sulfate once in the morning and once before bed. he told me i could take the ultram every 4-6 hours or so. So far, the pain is manageable and im happy to have gotten the oxy out of my possession
 
shreddedlettuce said:
I thought that you cannot return medication to a pharmacy. (unless they are just going to destroy it).
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You are correct.

He wouldnt prescribe me more pain medication without me getting rid of the oxycontin first however. so he had me return them before writing a new prescription.
 
It seems you may have a natural high tolerance to opiates, or maybe you are heavy set and require more medication before pain reduction is at optimal levels. A relative of mine has been on morphine for a few years and the max she has taken was around 170mg a day.
 
I know this doesn't really aide in the discussion, but I seriously cringe when I think of somebody returning a full bottle of Oxycodone 30mg's...

Clearly, it was for the best, and I commend you for doing so...but damn, I could never do such a thing.
 
OnCloud9 said:
It seems you may have a natural high tolerance to opiates, or maybe you are heavy set and require more medication before pain reduction is at optimal levels. A relative of mine has been on morphine for a few years and the max she has taken was around 170mg a day.
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I assume genetics play some in my higher than normal tollerence. I'm 5'11 and 185 pounds, probably only 180ish now. Cant workout for awhile :(

I remember when I was 18 I took hydrocodone for the first time. First opiate at that. I took 4 norcos. 10/325. So 40mg for my first dose ever. I wasn't impressed. I felt slightly warm after about 30mins and relaxed. This died off over the next 4 hours.

My second time I took 5 norcos and 120mg of codeine in cough syrup. This time I felt warm, itchy and semi euphoric. After about 2 hours I hit a wall and just passed out
 
J.Wallace said:
I know this doesn't really aide in the discussion, but I seriously cringe when I think of somebody returning a full bottle of Oxycodone 30mg's...

Clearly, it was for the best, and I commend you for doing so...but damn, I could never do such a thing.
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I appreciate it :)

Sorry to have caused you any pain or sadness thinking about the wasted oxy. If I could I would have dispossed of them in your direcrion ;)
 
lets just say I also commend you, I also felt part of my heart cringe as those oxys were returned. Oh well, the sadness is temporary.

But for harm reduction sake try and not go over 200 mgs of MS-contin. :) Maybe you can try some potentiation methods listed on BL.
 
OnCloud9 said:
lets just say I also commend you, I also felt part of my heart cringe as those oxys were returned. Oh well, the sadness is temporary.

But for harm reduction sake try and not go over 200 mgs of MS-contin. :) Maybe you can try some potentiation methods listed on BL.
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With my new regimen from the doctor i dont plan on going near 200mg again. Those were also extender release tablets. i find the Instant release to be just as effective at 40mg x2 daily. Also the ultram seems to do a decent job. Is 400mg of ultram a decent amount?
 
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