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30/5/10: Sixty Minutes Marijuana legalization story

MilliVanilli

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Just a heads up. Just saw before that Sixty Minutes are doing a segment on Marijuana legalization (pretty sure it was this). Heads up to anyone interested.

Hopefully not as biased as Tracey Grimshaw and her posse of sensationalist half-wits.
 
^ What is the relevance of your comment?

Hopefully it is a balanced view on legalisation if they do run a segment on it. I have missed the first half and don't have access to the TV so I will have to check back in here to see how it was.
 
Legalizing Marijuana is not wise thing to do, and i do not see what benefit it could bring to our society and health. It's not rocket science to work that one out
 
^ What benefit is there to locking people up for smoking a fucking plant? Limiting their abilities to travel and their employment prospects when there is nothing even remotely immoral about lighting up hardly seems beneficial to society or the persecuted individuals mental health either mate. Its not just about "benefit" there can be a lesser of two evils, although I do not like to use evil as a way of describing drug use because it has its draw backs but can be and most often is done safely and sensibly. It is about freedom as an individual to do what makes you feel good, so long as your not fucking up anybody else's shit in the process. Its about people having a choice to relax at the end of the day with a substance other than the traditional alcohol.
 
I suppose you'd prefer leaving the profit base from selling marijuana to go to organised crime/bikie gangs without any going to the tax system to help pay for any potential medical problems suffered by people who are going to smoke it regardless of what you think?
 
Legalizing Marijuana is not wise thing to do, and i do not see what benefit it could bring to our society and health. It's not rocket science to work that one out

I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinion. To look at things that aren't beneficial to society and our health, then you may look no further than Alcohol. At least Marijuana has medicinal benefits, and lacks pretty much all the social nightmares that Alcohol carries with it.
 
^ What benefit is there to locking people up for smoking a fucking plant? Limiting their abilities to travel and their employment prospects when there is nothing even remotely immoral about lighting up hardly seems beneficial to society or the persecuted individuals mental health either mate. Its not just about "benefit" there can be a lesser of two evils, although I do not like to use evil as a way of describing drug use because it has its draw backs but can be and most often is done safely and sensibly. It is about freedom as an individual to do what makes you feel good, so long as your not fucking up anybody else's shit in the process. Its about people having a choice to relax at the end of the day with a substance other than the traditional alcohol.

What evidence do you need? There are many risk factors, it can cause brain damage and memory loss, possibly anxiety if you use it for a long time. I once thought it would be nice to legalize the drug but i asked my self the question when i have children do i want my doctor prescribing a drug that is heavily abused by many potheads in this nation? At the end of the day i think it sends the wrong message to children or teenagers who are most vulnerable.
 
What evidence do you need? There are many risk factors, it can cause brain damage and memory loss, possibly anxiety if you use it for a long time. I once thought it would be nice to legalize the drug but i asked my self the question when i have children do i want my doctor prescribing a drug that is heavily abused by many potheads in this nation? At the end of the day i think it sends the wrong message to children or teenagers who are most vulnerable.


ok, the doctor will just prescribe the usual opiates, painkillers, anti depressants/anxieties/psychotics. idiot.

every prescription med that has any potential for abuse has and is being abused... weed is the bottom of that dangerous pile and its not even legal(yet!)
 
What evidence do you need? There are many risk factors, it can cause brain damage and memory loss, possibly anxiety if you use it for a long time.

and alcohol/cigarettes/prescription meds don't?

[/QUOTE=lynnie;8428246]I once thought it would be nice to legalize the drug but i asked my self the question when i have children do i want my doctor prescribing a drug that is heavily abused[/QUOTE]

like oxys, morph benzos diazys and other prescription meds etc



[/QUOTE=lynnie;8428246] At the end of the day i think it sends the wrong message to children or teenagers who are most vulnerable.[/QUOTE]

If they want to do anything they will regardless of prohibition
 
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ok, the doctor will just prescribe the usual opiates, painkillers, anti depressants/anxieties/psychotics. idiot.

every prescription med that has any potential for abuse has and is being abused... weed is the bottom of that dangerous pile and its not even legal(yet!)

Morphine and Codeine Phostphate and many other drugs are locked in safe in the chemist and not many doctors would prescribe these sort of drugs unless under extreme circumstances or close to death. Morphine can be used as a pain killer, Codeine can be used for pain or coughing. But on the subject again i do not think any politician's would take the risk of legalizing this drug because there are many psychiatrist/psychologist who disagree on this because they deal with potheads and i think it's fair enough because they are the ones doing the dirty work in the end.
 
What evidence do you need? There are many risk factors, it can cause brain damage and memory loss, possibly anxiety if you use it for a long time. I once thought it would be nice to legalize the drug but i asked my self the question when i have children do i want my doctor prescribing a drug that is heavily abused by many potheads in this nation? At the end of the day i think it sends the wrong message to children or teenagers who are most vulnerable.
As everyone has already said your parts of your argument are flawed for reasons which are horribly obvious, it does send the wrong message to children but then again what doesn't? Just have a read of the TV guide and look at how many hours of programming could be considered detrimental to a child's upbringing... It's not up to society or the government to look after these children, it's the parents!! Dam I may sound like a broken record but the government should not be held responsible for how fucked up some of these kids turn out.

Morphine and Codeine Phostphate and many other drugs are locked in safe in the chemist and not many doctors would prescribe these sort of drugs unless under extreme circumstances or close to death. Morphine can be used as a pain killer, Codeine can be used for pain or coughing. But on the subject again i do not think any politician's would take the risk of legalizing this drug because there are many psychiatrist/psychologist who disagree on this because they deal with potheads and i think it's fair enough because they are the ones doing the dirty work in the end.
Hypothetically how would you educate your children on the effects of certain drugs namely legal ones such as alcohol and tobacco? Why do you think this couldn't be applied to cannabis?

EDIT: Video Link
http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-a...BBD9-1C7BD912A62C&p=AUnews_AU60minutes&t=m163
 
As everyone has already said your parts of your argument are flawed for reasons which are horribly obvious, it does send the wrong message to children but then again what doesn't? Just have a read of the TV guide and look at how many hours of programming could be considered detrimental to a child's upbringing... It's not up to society or the government to look after these children, it's the parents!! Dam I may sound like a broken record but the government should not be held responsible for how fucked up some of these kids turn out.


Hypothetically how would you educate your children on the effects of certain drugs namely legal ones such as alcohol and tobacco? Why do you think this couldn't be applied to cannabis?

EDIT: Video Link
http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-a...BBD9-1C7BD912A62C&p=AUnews_AU60minutes&t=m163

I agree with you on many parts as for the TV there are the good and the bad and i know where your getting to about parents but it is also about the environment you are in and the type of social life you have that plays a huge contribution to your lifestyle and the way you are.

You can't compare alcohol and tobacco, society already knows the risk involved, and i don't think they even prepared to know or wanna know the risk of legalizing marijuana because in the end it is about calculating the cost and risk and also the public/media.
 
What evidence do you need? There are many risk factors, it can cause brain damage and memory loss, possibly anxiety if you use it for a long time. I once thought it would be nice to legalize the drug but i asked my self the question when i have children do i want my doctor prescribing a drug that is heavily abused by many potheads in this nation? At the end of the day i think it sends the wrong message to children or teenagers who are most vulnerable.

Brain damage? I dont know what you've been using to acheive that level of idiocricy but I doubt any amount of pot could do that to you.

I among countless other australians use cannabis on a daily basis with next to no negative side effects. And considering your very flawed arguement here, I'd feel its safe to say that my intelligence far exceeds yours, cannabis abuse and all ;)

Anxiety and other mental conditions are not directly caused by cannabis abuse, they however MAY (big if there) be triggered by use. But for that to happen the condition has to be pre-existing but is usually underlying and is only brought out by the cannabis. And that is all a very rare occurance.

Memory loss is a given, you get past that quickly and its only tempoary, I find that after two days most symptoms of abuse start to subside, and after a full week of absinance all symtoms have entirely dissapeared. If any of those sympoms manifest to a level where its in any way debhilitating to the idividual, then the level of use must be well past excessive and getting towards to the point of stupidity. In which case, its no longer the plants fault, its the idiot that pushes it that far.

All substances have that limit where you use it to much, it will have un-desirable effects. But this is more true for other legal substances, alcohol can destroy the body and mind in a single binge. Nicotine is highly addictive and to this day remains the only chemical I've ever had issues ceasing use. Of all the evils in the world cannabis would have to be one of the most innocent.

Its more harmless than panadol, yet I still remain a criminal for using it.

Fuck that flawed argument you put forward, thinking like that is what puts innocent people in jail. Good people shouldn't have to hide for the sake of enjoying themselves in a safe and responsible manner.
 
lynnie i completely disagree with your point of view and believe you are part of the problem go back to church
 
You can't compare alcohol and tobacco, society already knows the risk involved, and i don't think they even prepared to know or wanna know the risk of legalizing marijuana because in the end it is about calculating the cost and risk and also the public/media.

If you're really serious about this and I'm not really sure you are?

......... If you really believe that comment please go and have a read of this brief document written by a leading Australian Doctor and world expert on drug related harm, you might find it beneficial. It's not a huge document, it's actually just a newspaper article.

Ten things you should know about drug prohibition
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/ten-things-you-should-know-about-drug-prohibition1/
 
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