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Opioids 3 oxy 30mg vs 7 4mg hyrdromorphone

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which should i choose if my preferred ROA is internasal? like which will i get more bang for my buck? (no pun intended since i dnot use needles lol)
 
Are you guys fucking serious saying to take the oxy. Insufflated hydromorphone is much better than 90mg oxycodone. And even with oxycodone, snorting it versus eating it doesnt increase the effects by very much, if at all, only a quicker onset. Bioavailability for oxycodone is great when taken orally, bioavailability for hydromorphone is great while taken intranasally and even GREATER when IV'd. I would take 28mg of hydromorphone over 90mg of oxycodone any day. My 2 cents
 
um yah... seeing the charts , from experience sure OXY is a bit more euphoric but bang for buck, this guy is getting way more with the hydro lol....
 
They feel different. I too would say pick the oxy In my experience tolerance seems to go up faster with dillies... jn ogher words, you may not need to dose ALL at once but the next time/s you may need a lil more to feel how great you do/did that 1st time or first cpl times. With oxy, you can stay at that great place with the same dose for longer. (long as not habitual-as tolerance IS inevitable regardless)

Hydromorphone has a lower BA (orally, intranasally) than oxy. It DOES feel great though, until you develop that annoying thing called tolerance, which is a bitch.
 
Honestly I think high wise oxy is better, way more up beat.. but also way more addicting and way worse when it comes to withdrawals I heard :) always something to keep in mind

for every up, theres a down and vice versa
 
I'm glad this came up, as one of my dealers called the other day to tell me he's got the 8 mg dillies. I just don't know if it will even be worth it. We don't IV, so we'd end up sniffing these things, and while the intranasal BA is decent, well, I've been told that hydromorphone has no legs and needs to be shot in order to be worth it at all. Opinions?
 
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I'm glad this came up, as one of my dealers called the other day to tell me he's got the 8 mg dillies. I just don't know if it will even be worth it. We don't IV, so we'd end up sniffing these things, and while the intranasal BA is decent, well, I've been told that hydromorphone has no legs and needs to be shot in order to be worth it at all. Opinions?
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When I was doing like 120 - 150 mg of roxis to get a good nod going, I found hydromorphone to be really lacking. I only blow my pills. I snorted like 32 mgs and was not really impressed. The high that did come on was extremely short and the amount of powder I had to snort wasn't fun. IVing is apparently like taking an entirely different drug; needle users in my area go nuts everytime they hear dillies are in.

I personally say stick with Oxy and Opana.
 
intranasal hydromorphine is very underwhelming imo, even with i had a smaller tolerance i could easily sniff 32 mgs and hardly catch a nod
if you're not iving the dillies, take the oxy imo

though i have heard if you are putting your hydromorphone in a nasal spray bottle and sniffing it like that you will get much better effects though i can not attest to this method as i only iv my hydromorphone nowadays
 
If you IV'd id say hydromorphone....but since u dont and your ROA is sniffing id say go for the oxy.....just cause i could sniff all 7 of the 4's and not feel that good (somethin like 30% BA, where oxy is around 60% i believe, snorted.) but if i banged 2 of them id be flying....Hydromorphone is pretty much a ripoff if u take it orally/sniffing.

NOT RECOMENDING TO IV ANYTHING!!!! STICK TO SNORTING!!! im just saying why most people love hydromorphone, becasue they probably bang it. Ive never heard anyone who only sniffs there opiates care for hydromorph
 
I find it pretty funny that the guys who take between 80mg-150mg of oxycodone per dose can snort 32mg of hydromorphone and not get much of an effect. Snorting 12mg is roughly equal to taking one 80mg orally, (which has a higher BA than nasally for oxy, for the record) which makes snorting 32mg of hydromorph at least 50% more than the highest amount (150mg) of oxycodone. I don't know about the rest of you, but when I take at least a half more than my usual equivalent dose, no matter what opiate, I'd be high. Anywho, I'm interested to hear more on this; feel free to fill me in.
Also, there are people out there who prefer hydromorphone for it's more sedating properties, even when taken nasally. I know most people around where I am do at least.
 
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"Snorting 12mg is roughly equal to taking one 80mg orally"

I was recenty prescribed Opana Er 40mg (2 pill twice a day) and prior to this switch, I was on Oxycontin (320mg daily). The doctor told me that the Opana is exactly twice as strong as the Oxy. I realize snorting may make a difference but really... Over six times stronger, not two times? That doesn't sound right to me. Where did you look that up? I'd love to see some conversion charts that are easy to read!
 
BeachBum4u said:
"Snorting 12mg is roughly equal to taking one 80mg orally"

I was recenty prescribed Opana Er 40mg (2 pill twice a day) and prior to this switch, I was on Oxycontin (320mg daily). The doctor told me that the Opana is exactly twice as strong as the Oxy. I realize snorting may make a difference but really... Over six times stronger, not two times? That doesn't sound right to me. Where did you look that up? I'd love to see some conversion charts that are easy to read!
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Opana is oxymorphone, not hydromorphone. They're two different but related drugs. IME some people prefer one to the other, everyone is different.

To the OP: I would get the hydromorphone for "a change of pace", hell what am I saying. If my goal was to get high I'd get both! But doesn't sound like an option for you so ignore that advice. ;) I have good memories of hydromorphone, but I never used it much so it always kicked my ass when it came around. Oxycodone on the other hand was an every day thing for me, so 90mg would have just been more of the same.

Like I said everyone is different. If you're in a position where you've tried one and not the other I'd get the one you haven't had before just to see what its about.
 
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