3 days clean...Questions.

[PerfectoPLease]

So heres a very short and sweet breakdown of my opiate use. Started with hydro at 17, by 19 I had my first habit with methadone. Got semi clean, then back to hydro, and then on to oxy, which I began to aquire in large quantities and solidified my addiction. Moved. Weaned off with hydro. Clean for a year. Heroin, boom, two years. Cold turkey clean, back on the hydros for a few months, then planned on a quick taper with sub. Well ive been on sub at around 2 mg a day, just to feel normal. I tapered for 2 days on 1 mg or less, and nothing since sunday evening. Im shitting foamy fire and egg yolks, my back is killing me and im sooo lethargic. Which sucks pretty bad working 12 hour days when I know just a tiny tiny bump of sub and I would be on the very top of my game (im a cook, I need to be on the top or not there at all). I must say though, its nothing compared to dropping .5g/day tar habit. Barely sweat, I can sleep with a little klonipin, nose run isn't too bad. Even the back pain isn't as bad as dropping the D.


So Sunday morning I get on a plane to Portland till Wednesday. Then a month after that Im going to Burningman, and detoxing on the playa would probably land me in the med tent. So its get clean now, or carry pills through 4 airports, then later drive them halfway across the country. So im getting clean. For now at least. I wish I could say forever, but I know next time Im in a different town and see a sweet black chunk of that vinegary tar, I wont be able to say no.


I guess what I wanted to ask, how do you think ill feel by Saturday night/ Sunday morning? I mean obviously by the time I get to Burningman (providing I don't go back to sub) Ill be fine, I just want to know how ill likely feel for my little vacation. My job is practically exercise in a 110 degree room. Doing it while detoxing has not been much fun. I vomited as soon as I walked into my door last night, and the back pain keeps me walking like Egor.........



So yeah, any advice, thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated. I know this isn't a crazy huge habit, but Ive only used sub for quick tapers off the brown. This time Ive been on it for 6+months.

 

[Carl Landrover]

How long were you on 2mg of sub before you did the two day 1mg taper? Probably would have helped to take around 0.5mg or even less (I've felt noticeable effects from 0.1mg when doing a long taper) either yesterday or today. Taking a very small dose like that might be helpful, but it depends on your answer to the first question.

 

[PerfectoPLease]

Around six months of pretty much two mg daily. Then the two day taper. I really want to feel okay when I go to see my friend this weekend, so no more subs going into my body unless things just get absolutely horrible. But I have a positive mind about it, I don't think things are going to get worse...I took a bit of kpin again tonight, and in just a bit I feel like I will be sleeping fine.

If I choose to stay on subs, I have to walk though 2 airports with a pill in my pocket. I don't wanna do that and I don't wanna do sub anymore. I just keep telling myself that, along with the fact Im going to BURNINGMAN in a month. How awful would that be to be sick there? Im a tattooed, skydiving, hands all burnt up hardcore line cook at the nicest restaurant in town. I wanna whoop this things ass, then go trip my balls off feelin good off good ol L and Molly with some sweet dank in the desert.

 

[Carl Landrover]

I think you'll feel ok by the time you leave, but it's probably going to be a bumpy week. Bupe builds up in your body and leaves slower than traditional opiates, so the next day or two may still be shitty. Leaving your environment and going somewhere fun should really help with the any depression issues that sometimes follow the WD. The physical stuff should be over by the time you leave, maybe you'll have to take some loperamide, but that should hopefully be good by then, so you should hopefully be in good shape.

 

[PerfectoPLease]

Thanks for the help man! I really appreciate a positive outlook on the thing. That was about what I was thinking. I suppose a few past the recommended dose and that would clear up the GI issues, what about the back pain and such.....Also I don't seem to sweat as much on this detox as compared to traditional opiates, but I do still get the chills from time to time.

 

[Carl Landrover]

People usually seem to knock it since it's usually an unwanted addition to hydrocodone and oxycodone, but taking acetaminophen or a likewise OTC pain reliever does help quite a bit with the muscle aches. I know I usually take 1000-1500mg of acetaminophen when I'm WDing if I'm trying to sleep, but can't get comfortable because of the muscle aches or if I have to go to work and can't stand the muscle pain.