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2ct-2, 2ct7 whats the diff?
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i know i can find out there, but im lazy like the rest of u's, and i want everything handed 2 me on a plate. i don't feel like doin a fukin research project 2 answer my question. if u know, just tell me!
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superluminal
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Here's a little more detailed comparison.
2-ct-2 lasts roughly 4-5 hours by oral ingestion, 2-ct-7 lasts 12-15 by the same method. Smoked and snorted routes vary by roughly half that time difference percentage-wise (45m-2hrs for t-2, 1.5-3hrs for t-7).
2-ct-2 requires a lower dose, and has had less negative reports attached to it -- but then it's a far less popular drug mostly just by chance, because t-7 has been more publicized.
Both are expensive to acquire because they're available in quantities usually no less than 250mg. Both are more risky than the more-established psychedelics (LSD, psilocin, mescaline) because they are phenethylamines, and have more of the speed-like effects of the MDxx's than most other psychedelics. Also, they are research chemicals and therefore there is a lot that isn't known about their long-term effects. However, in general they should be safe in the hands of a wise person who excercises prudent caution in terms of starting with small doses and VERY GRADUALLY ratcheting upwards.
I hope this helps.
2-ct-2 lasts roughly 4-5 hours by oral ingestion, 2-ct-7 lasts 12-15 by the same method. Smoked and snorted routes vary by roughly half that time difference percentage-wise (45m-2hrs for t-2, 1.5-3hrs for t-7).
2-ct-2 requires a lower dose, and has had less negative reports attached to it -- but then it's a far less popular drug mostly just by chance, because t-7 has been more publicized.
Both are expensive to acquire because they're available in quantities usually no less than 250mg. Both are more risky than the more-established psychedelics (LSD, psilocin, mescaline) because they are phenethylamines, and have more of the speed-like effects of the MDxx's than most other psychedelics. Also, they are research chemicals and therefore there is a lot that isn't known about their long-term effects. However, in general they should be safe in the hands of a wise person who excercises prudent caution in terms of starting with small doses and VERY GRADUALLY ratcheting upwards.
I hope this helps.
superluminal
Bluelighter
oh, and I forgot to mention:
2-ct-2 is generally reported to be less visual and more euphoric, with less side effects than t-7. However, this WIDELY varies in published reports. Your mileage may vary.
Enjoy whatever you decide to do....
2-ct-2 is generally reported to be less visual and more euphoric, with less side effects than t-7. However, this WIDELY varies in published reports. Your mileage may vary.
Enjoy whatever you decide to do....
bachus
Bluelighter
Do 'em both and let us know.
Shulgin seemed more impressed with 7 so many more people tried 7. Many of those who have tried both disagree with Sasha, and with each other.
Shrug. I guess it's not news that psychedelics are psubjective.
Bachups
Shulgin seemed more impressed with 7 so many more people tried 7. Many of those who have tried both disagree with Sasha, and with each other.
Shrug. I guess it's not news that psychedelics are psubjective.
Bachups
shiney
Bluelighter
please be careful if you have to take 2ct7 -- my friend died on this shit while i was hallucinating wildly, unable to do anything to save him...i kid you not... the dosage he ingested wasnt very big. read about it on erowid. nuff said.
2ct2 and 2ct7, in my opinion are very different in their behavior... not even remotely similar.
The only similarity that I found is that you have to be goddamned careful with the dosages of each one of these compounds. If you overshoot on the dosage... these compounds will put an "ass-whoopin'" on ya.
Happy Trails,
DrWild
The only similarity that I found is that you have to be goddamned careful with the dosages of each one of these compounds. If you overshoot on the dosage... these compounds will put an "ass-whoopin'" on ya.
Happy Trails,
DrWild
shiney, if its the user who snorted 35mg i'm sorry but that's his fault. you're fucking around with research chemicals that we have no long term studies for at all let alone short term. our best resource is a very good report done by murple through a user survey.
cyberfr0g
Bluelighter
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal040.shtml
There is a considerable parallel between 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7, and both have proven to be excellent tools for introspection. The differences are largely physical. With 2C-T-2, there is more of a tendency to have physical disturbances such as nausea and diarrhea. And the experience is distinctly shorter. With 2C-T-7, physical disturbances are less common, but you are into the effects for almost twice as long.
rtfm
There is a considerable parallel between 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7, and both have proven to be excellent tools for introspection. The differences are largely physical. With 2C-T-2, there is more of a tendency to have physical disturbances such as nausea and diarrhea. And the experience is distinctly shorter. With 2C-T-7, physical disturbances are less common, but you are into the effects for almost twice as long.
rtfm
cascadia
Bluelighter
This pretty much says it all:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/article1/
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ct7/article1/
cyberfr0g
Bluelighter
hey, i remember submitting to that survey. that was awhile ago. that'll work too!
SovietContin
Bluelighter
Just for the record, a 7mg dose of snorted 2-CT-2 is WAY more visual than an oral 2-CT-7 dose or an equivellant snorted dose.
One time I snorted 10mgs of it and it was one of the most insane experiences I have ever had. At one point during the trip I put on headphones and a Thee-O mix tape. Not only did I "see the music", but I actually was sucked into my headphones and floating in a universe of sound. Definantly in my top 5 most mind blowing trips.
HOWEVER it has considerable side effects including heavy nausea with a really good possibility of vomitting, pretty intense muscle tightening during the first hour or two, and a god awful hangover as well as a general poisoned feeling that lingers for a day or two afterwards.
7mgs is about as high as you can get without getting really severe symptoms. Although even between 5-7mgs, you're still going to get a lot of side effects.
I'm pretty sure 2-CT-2 and 2-CT-7 are very unhealthy for you from experience.
In retrospect I don't think either of them were worth trying, either.
One time I snorted 10mgs of it and it was one of the most insane experiences I have ever had. At one point during the trip I put on headphones and a Thee-O mix tape. Not only did I "see the music", but I actually was sucked into my headphones and floating in a universe of sound. Definantly in my top 5 most mind blowing trips.
HOWEVER it has considerable side effects including heavy nausea with a really good possibility of vomitting, pretty intense muscle tightening during the first hour or two, and a god awful hangover as well as a general poisoned feeling that lingers for a day or two afterwards.
7mgs is about as high as you can get without getting really severe symptoms. Although even between 5-7mgs, you're still going to get a lot of side effects.
I'm pretty sure 2-CT-2 and 2-CT-7 are very unhealthy for you from experience.
In retrospect I don't think either of them were worth trying, either.
Roxie
Bluelighter
I don't know the difference, but be careful dude. I had a friend almost OD on that shit, and he was in the hospital for weeks. He wouldnt stop screaming and shouting random words at the top of his lungs and he got violent. I wasn't there, but i was posted on what was happening WHILE it was happening, and everyone was scared shitless.
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