2ci ....... disappointed

[television82]

Took my first dose of about 10-15mg.

The setting wasn't exactly ideal to be fair. I was trying to remain at relatively sober state to the observation of my flat-mates, so I always had that in mind which led me to probably not fully enjoy/appreciate the effects.

However, regardless of that, I didn't really get many positive effects. It was FAR too stimulating for my liking. Music didn't sound that much better than usual. Visuals weren't that impressive. I got the pulsing walls sensation. And very limited closed eye visuals. But my mind was racing far too much than I would have liked. I could consciously calm this racing mind down, but its rather annoying to be constantly trying to do this in order to enjoy the trip.

Should i have taken more? Would a higher dose intensify the psychedelic effects, and thus make the stimulation seem mild in comparison? Is there anything I can take to compliment it? Would I enjoy it more in a room with friends/ fellow trippers to talk and laugh with (I did have the urge to laugh on a few occasions). Would it be better suited to a club/rave environment in which case the stimulation could be channeled in a less than distracting fashion? Would it compliment MDMA?

 

[Addam]

2C-I is pretty well known for stimulation. If you don't like this property, perhaps you could try something else? I don't think a higher dose will make the effects that you find undesirable go away.

 

[television82]

2C-I is pretty well known for stimulation. If you don't like this property, perhaps you could try something else? I don't think a higher dose will make the effects that you find undesirable go away.

Well perhaps I'll place more of the blame on the environment setting. A bit of company or a party might have suited the stimulation. I don't mind stimulation, I was just hoping for something a little more from the drug. Which I did get, but it was far too subtle to be very enjoyable.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I do think you dosed a bit on the low side if you were looking mainly to explore the psychedelic side of the effects. Try a little higher next time, but I'd definitely recommend having something to do to make the stimulation more comfortable - if nothing else just go for a walk or jog

 

[monkeyemergency]

the dosage you took was only ever likely to produce stimulating fx, try 20mgs, for moi that has caused great giggly mushroom-esque trips many times. Its innately a stimulating drug.

 

[stirfry]

The setting wasn't exactly ideal to be fair. I was trying to remain at relatively sober state to the observation of my flat-mates, so I always had that in mind which led me to probably not fully enjoy/appreciate the effects.

Is this to imply your roommates didn't know you were dosing, and you were hoping to keep it concealed from them? If that was the case, it's not surprising you didn't get anything positive from the experience. If you have to constantly keep yourself in check, it is very hard to just let the experience take you where you need to go. Also, this situation is bound to cause some degree of anxiety ("Am I acting normal?" "Do they suspect anything?") during the trip. I find anxiety very much manifests itself as physical discomfort while on psychedelics. Perhaps in a setting where you don't have to worry about such things, you would feel more comfortable.

good luck.

 

[llama112]

I haven't done 2c-i recently but that seems to be what it was like for a low dose for me. My boyfriend had a low dose too the first time we tried it, we were both very disappointed, like what the heck was that (I wasn't even experienced in psychedelics then), we tried a second time with a higher dose, we went to a very small club (basement, one washroom, small room, closed off), he absolutely loved it, I hated it (anxiety, closed spaces, did not work well). I enjoy it outdoors, just with my bf and not many other people, wandering around, exploring kinda, yeah. But I can't stand it in a club or party. Not my thing.

 

[superelephant]

The setting is probably what facilitated the disappointment. I am still disappointed with 2c-i though, so it may still be the case even when you dose in a more comfortable setting.

 

[CombatWombat]

Horrible setting. 2C-I is a party drug. At higher doses upwards of 30mg (my pref. 2c-i dosage reaches about 45mg, I usually redose within the first two hours), it becomes excercise for your brain. A real work out for your mind. I think a lot, and become extremely witty when I'm tripping on 2C-I.

Give it another try, at a party, with psychedelic-friendly partygoers. 2C-I can be fun it all depends on what you like. 2C-I was the first 2C I tried and personally, 75% of the time given the choice, I'd take 2C-B over any other 2C-X because experiences with that at 20-30mg are simply overwhelmingly positive and analytic with a massive amount of empathy and euphoria, and it's as if nothing can detract or intrude on the experience.

 

[greenmeanies]

The setting was DEFINITELY the cause of the disappointment. If you are not in a place where you can actually say out loud "oh my god this drug is amazing" how are you supposed to have a good time?

 

[adamski10]

2ci's like trippy speed imho, best psych experience i've had was a half and half ( i cant remember dosages) with 4-ho-met!

 

[sekio]

All of the phenethylamine psychedelics are fairly stimulating.

Would a higher dose intensify the psychedelic effects, and thus make the stimulation seem mild in comparison? You bet.

 

[DwayneHoover]

Agree with remarks on setting. And 15mg is the lower threshold of notable psychedelic effects, before that only stim. I found out that while 20mg can give some mild psychedelic effects, 25mg is the "switch on" level for the best visual effect this compound offers: very long-lasting liquid sometimes strobing trails, as if you were in a VanGough painting. Before 25 I got that effect just a tiny bit but at 25 it really kicks in. Other experienced psychonauts with a good deal of 2C-I experience have noted this too.

Also makes light and colors in general seem brighter with some "color blooming" effects.

Other best part is for me and many others are the mental effects, which, contrary to other psychedelics that make you "think too much" or "think yourself into thought loops and dark corners," 2C-I to some has the very unique effect of LESSENING excessive mental verbiage and worrying... it makes me feel like some accomplished Buddhist monk, just feeling the world flow through my mind, a great feeling of understanding and compassion, without any concrete thoughtforms or words whatsoever, whilst seeing all these amazing trails everywhere. Quite a beautiful and entrancing state of mind. One friend said "this stuff is impossible to freak out on" due to its promotion of a state of quiet positivity and non-wordiness. (Of course YMMV as always.)

So reaching this state can definitely be worth it. AND much much harder to achieve if you are around suspicious roomates or in a busy crowded club or party (which it can also be an enjoyable place to use it but in a different way.)

Stimulation can be a little rough to ride out, for a time, but with the right mindset you can psyche yourself into enjoying it. Try working off that energy by exporing your surroudings, or dancing/swaying to music, etc., this helps to channel the stimulation into the body where it can get USED and burned off instead of just stewing there like a bunch of bottled up carbonation with nowhere to go, you know?

You can also try mild relaxants like one beer, the hops helps and a little alcohol, also a little weed helps too but only a bit.

BUT after oh say 1h15m and 2h the stimulation seems to "dissolve into" the trippier effects, at least in my experience. and it either fades away quickly at this point or I just don't noticie it. Oh you will still be very very awake for a good while, just not all jittery and shit. And YES achieving real trippiness DOES make you feel less annoyed by the comeup, and able to let it dissolve, and make it seem worth it.

It's a well known phenomenon for people on insufficient does of shrooms or LSD to have a higher experience of "bad" or disappointing trips... you get the side effects but not the benefits and it just leaves you feeling aggravated and disappointed. But if you get enough to actually get off to a strong degree trust me you will be enjoying the experience so fucking much that you will not have the wherewithal to feel alot of negativity... at least that's the way it works very very often.