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2ce - experienced - disaster by proxy

Pathogen

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I have never had a bad trip off of any of the 2c-x compounds, until this past wednesday. It was horrible. The only worse experience I ever had was with Datura, which was at least 10,000 times as bad as my experience this past wednesday. Let me get to the story...

So, a friend of mine who I have known for a long time came over, and we dropped 2c-e. He told me he had taken it before, so we took a very high dose. We each took a capsule with 70mg in it. After a while (before it even kicked in) he started to freak out. He went to the bathroom, and forced himself to throw up, to get the pill out of him. At this point it was about 45 minutes after we dosed, so I knew it was too late. He was in for a trip. It crept up on us, and hit us like a sledgehammer to the face. This is where it goes bad.

My friend began to FREAK OUT, badly. He was thinking that his heart wasn't beating, and he thought that he was having trouble breathing. I put my hand on his chest to feel his heart, and assured him that it was beating, and at a fast pace. I also assured him that he was in fact breathing. Every 10 minutes or so, he would get this really sad look on his face, and he thought his heart had stopped. I had to convince him at least 60 times during the night that his heart was still beating, and everything would be fine.

We were tripping really hard and he just began to flip out and rip his clothes off. It was no fun at all. It was actually very scary, cause I've never seen this guy freak out, and we have done alot of hallucinogens together. I babysat him through it, and I let him play wii. that seemed to occupy his mind, and calm him down through the last hour or so of it. His bad trip put me into a bad trip, and we both vowed never to do 2c-e again.

I have been experienced with the 2c-x compounds, but least of all with 2c-e. I've taken it about 5 times over the past month, but that night really spooked me. I don't think I will be taking that compound anymore. I know it is not the chemical, it was my friend who ruined it for me. But now, I just feel bad vibes when even looking at the capsules. I watched my friend dump about 100 capsules down the toilet.
 
That dose is just far too high. I topped out at about 50mg with 2c-e, and troubling physical symptoms were begining to manifest. I will no longer go avove 40mg.
 
I had taken the dose about 3 times before with no ill effects, just a very enjoyable trip. It was probably too much for my friend. Seeing him freak out like that caused me to freak.
 
Ghettotastic_bong said:
70mg's of 2c-e is simply irresponsible. Your sheer disregard for your own health and well-being negates any sympathy I'd have for you.

You must remember that there are sources out there that cut their product. Some folks may have never sampled pure (98%+) 2C-E. Depending on the amount of the cut, some of these huge doses people are claiming to metabolize, they may only be experiencing a 20mg or less trip.

I would place the blame of dangerous irresponsibility squarely in the capitalistic laps of the sources that misrepresent what they're providing to people who most likely only have a modicum of real knowledge about what it is they're actually dealing with.

Because I believe if this person had pure 2C-E, 70mg would have at the least caused memory loss.
 
Ghettotastic_bong said:
70mg's of 2c-e is simply irresponsible. Your sheer disregard for your own health and well-being negates any sympathy I'd have for you.
I'm not looking for any form of sympathy. I'm just sharing my experience. Like I said, I had taken this dose a buncha times, and my friend had taken insanely high doses of other chemicals. We thought he could handle it, he couldn't. No fishing for sympathy.
 
When I read shit like this, I can almost be convinced by some of the drug warriors' arguments. But then I remember that real freedom includes the rights of imbeciles to kill themselves.

Point taken F&B, but I believe that to use RC's (cola to you MSG--like it or not, it's here to stay) responsibly, one must take all the variables into consideration:

1. The substance sent to you might not be the substance you ordered. At the very least it should be tested with an EZ-Test type reagent or reagents. If the tests look good, I still dose 1mg just in case it's DOI and not 2C-I.

2. The weight sent might not be the weight ordered. So regarding dosage control, one needs to use an appropriate measuring device.

3. Use the Shulgin method to test new batches. Start at 1/2 the minimum PIHKAL dosage. If no adverse FX, try the minimum. If it still seems "weak," work your way up from there.

Pathogen, I realize it's not your fault that drug law creates many dangerous situations. And it's also not your fault that Evolution created malaria, but if you go to Africa without taking your prophylaxis I will call you stupid. :|
 
Whenever you freak out about it you get a bad trip. Its a meta-choice thing, and it can happen on 5mg.
 
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