Jakeperson
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That 2C-B dose isn't one to be laughed at.
27.5mg was one of my best psych experiences, waiting for the right time to try higher.
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2ce dosage and environment
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That 2C-B dose isn't one to be laughed at.
27.5mg was one of my best psych experiences, waiting for the right time to try higher.
PsiloSubNaut
Bluelight Crew
You're definitely not mistaken Shiverman. Psychedelics, compared to all other drugs, will produce vastly different effects in the same user at different times. Of all the psychedelics that I have bioassayed, nothing comes close to the synthetic phenethylamines for effects differences.
A few years ago, I played around with the same batch of 2C-I for months on end. After reagent testing (comparing to online info) and then incrementally working my way up to a threshold dose to make sure that it was in fact 2C-I, myself and a close friend took a dose of 20mg. I was nicely high from this dose and my friend was blasted into the stratosphere. At first, I thought I had a natural tolerance, but the following weekend we both took the same dose, in the same environment and this time I was the one 'walking on the moon'. I always dose on an empty stomach, this way food doesn't slow down the absorption rate and it also helps to reduce nausea.
On other occasions, with the same batch of 2C-I, I took 40+mg and got similar effects to when I only took 20mg. My friend sailed smoothly on 30mg one weekend and had a hypertensive crisis on just 15mg the next weekend.
I have experienced the exact same thing with 2C-E, 2C-B, 2C-C and 2C-T-7. In recent times it has become less common, but every now and then I am still bit in the ass by doses that I don't consider heroic.
Little is known about these substances. They just don't have the same user base as say MDMA, which has been used by millions of people for the past 30 years, so the amount of available information is very limited. Different batches can have slightly different potency's. Newly acquired products have a different danger that can be reduced by trying tiny doses at first: as with all black market chemicals, mislabeling or misidentification of a substance are a constant threat to the health of users. A friend of mine got some of the infamous mislabeled 2C-B-fly which turned out to be the much more potent and toxic bromo-dragonfly. We started with a dose of 1mg, which is a massive dose of bromo-dragonly (a common dose is 300 micrograms) and an unnoticeable dose of 2C-B-fly. I can't stress enough the importance of starting low and working your way up. Many people have died from mislabeled RC's over the years and many more have been hospitalized. If we took a common 2C-B-fly dose of bromo-dragonfly we would definitely have been hospitalized from vasoconstriction and could have easily died.
Expect vastly different effects from 2C-*'s on similar doses, in similar environments, in a similar pre-trip head space, especially when you are starting out. Remember that a dose which works for you, could be way too much for a friend, even if your friend weighs twice as much as you! As with all drugs some people are naturally intolerant and will get strong effects from half the average dose. As with all psychedelics, 'less is best' in social environments such as festivals. Losing your shit is a waste of what should be a fun event, so save big doses for intimate settings.
Respect these substances and they will respect you. I have had some wonderful experiences with phenethylamines over the years and I'm sure you and I have many more to come.
And with that rant I am off to bed
MrIbis
Bluelighter
wow, it seems i'm alone in not giving 2c-x drugs the respect they deserve.
I'm known to re-dose, and use up to like 60mg or more to myself of 2C-B nasally over a night.
I did make the mistake of giving a girl a dose of 2C-E once, that would have been over 80mg, mistaking the bag for mephedrone (given that someone said the 2C-E was thrown out by mistake). She had never done psychedelics before, however her boyfriend, a close friend of mine - was an experienced psychonaut - and so tripsat her for the duration of the trip.
2C-E for me was muchhh like acid, not too visual, but extremely mind-altering. i prefer 2C-B and 2C-I over all the rest.
I'm known to re-dose, and use up to like 60mg or more to myself of 2C-B nasally over a night.
I did make the mistake of giving a girl a dose of 2C-E once, that would have been over 80mg, mistaking the bag for mephedrone (given that someone said the 2C-E was thrown out by mistake). She had never done psychedelics before, however her boyfriend, a close friend of mine - was an experienced psychonaut - and so tripsat her for the duration of the trip.
2C-E for me was muchhh like acid, not too visual, but extremely mind-altering. i prefer 2C-B and 2C-I over all the rest.
i tried e and p lots of times n loved them both, i find that e is very visualy intense but then so is p however i find that p is a lot more placid as opposed to hectic like e,
p and lsd is a fantstic combo and the oevs r out of this world, i once took a lil to much e and all i can say is wow, i feel realy sory for the chick who was given 80mgs, the most i took was only like 30-35 but usualy only 20. ii usualy had mabey 15 mg of p, tried 20 once, it was good, but damn it last a long time, i realy only recomend ppls with exp try these to as they r soooooo fucking intense!!!! wish i had the opp to try 2ci but i gues ill have to wait lol. what i realy want is some real nice lsd, n some real mdma instead of these rcs, they r good tho.
ps-i tried a 20mg rectal dose once-equiv to 60 oraly, fuck that was soooo overwelming it was crazy, n it hits within minutes, i found myself wondering what the hell is goin on 15 mins later, then realised it was kicking in already, if you like to get real messy then try plugin it lol,
have sum sleepin tabs on hand tho incase u need to cut it short,
just be careful with these two as i have seen first hand what a 2c psycosis looks like and its not pretty for anyone, its somthing ill never forget
p and lsd is a fantstic combo and the oevs r out of this world, i once took a lil to much e and all i can say is wow, i feel realy sory for the chick who was given 80mgs, the most i took was only like 30-35 but usualy only 20. ii usualy had mabey 15 mg of p, tried 20 once, it was good, but damn it last a long time, i realy only recomend ppls with exp try these to as they r soooooo fucking intense!!!! wish i had the opp to try 2ci but i gues ill have to wait lol. what i realy want is some real nice lsd, n some real mdma instead of these rcs, they r good tho.
ps-i tried a 20mg rectal dose once-equiv to 60 oraly, fuck that was soooo overwelming it was crazy, n it hits within minutes, i found myself wondering what the hell is goin on 15 mins later, then realised it was kicking in already, if you like to get real messy then try plugin it lol,
have sum sleepin tabs on hand tho incase u need to cut it short,
just be careful with these two as i have seen first hand what a 2c psycosis looks like and its not pretty for anyone, its somthing ill never forget
That 2C-B dose isn't one to be laughed at.
27.5mg was one of my best psych experiences, waiting for the right time to try higher.
yeah the 25mg dose did chuck me round a lil bit, im quite new to the 2c-X scene and im trying to get a real deep understanding of the substances, they do hold a true power which i enjoy. its great
i am not quite sure on how i would go on 25mg of 2ci, i think that would be too much for me personally
Sustanon
Bluelighter
1. I prefer to do psychs and etc alone so i can explore but for 1st timers i recommend a sitter someone who can look after u if sumfn does go wrong.
2. I would do it a home then see how well i could handle it outdoors. I find that dosing outdoors is fun but can be very over whelming and scary at the same time if there are unexpected friends around sober or not
3. Depends on dosage. 1st time i took 20mg i felt it decently but anymore and it would be noticeable.
4. Id drop 20mg in total and re dose if its not that strong after 2-2.5 hours. Takes about 1.5-2h to kick in
My opinion:
I have tried many forms of 2C's. 2CB being my favorite out of them all but 2ci, 2ce i just didnt like and would never consider trying it again. Felt like coming down acid and mdma at the same time. My mind was sober the whole time and was very boring. The only way i would do it if i would combine it with sumfn. Good luck and report back.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Most phenethylamines are quite boring by themselves. If uve experimented with most of them ud know what i mean. Having a sober mind but heavy body load isnt my cup of tea. I dont condone polydrug use either unless its a sensible amount. I wouldnt say mixing 2c's with most drugs would be extremely dangerous if used carefully. Not saying its safe either but on its own it just doesnt do it for me but thats just my 2 cents.
MakersTable
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Seen large doses of 2c-x's, in combos, mixed with other hard stimulants, IV'd. Very, very stupid and messy (what after all the vomit flying everywhere) considering people have died from amounts that weren't astronomical. Don't freak out if your first time is overwhelming, if you stick to the recommended dosages and ingestion method then remember you haven't overdosed and you won't die, the recommendations are in place for your own enjoyment as higher doses don't even seem to make the effects stronger past a certain point, you will just get sicker and risk serious harm.
That being said, I think the 2c-x's are best used under no expectations of effects (other than knowing that it will probably be intense) since it seems to affect everyone differently, and are more appreciated the 2nd time onwards once you get a feel for them. 2c-e had me in uncontrollable stitches laughing and I couldn't stop, it was crazy fun. Also a lot of people seem to get sick on it so take it at home near a toilet the first time to see how your body accepts it. And also stay near a bed or something, during the peak I feel sweaty and just need to lay down as there is a weird, vacant head buzz that I can't really explain, just needed to stare at the trippy morphing patterns and shadows til I could stop laughing for at least 10 seconds and regain myself
2c-i was a bit different, way lighter on visuals but had a similar 'schitzophrenia' type of mental effect that reminds me of LSD a bit, lights also seemed more dazzling, but it gave me a killer headache afterwards.
That being said, I think the 2c-x's are best used under no expectations of effects (other than knowing that it will probably be intense) since it seems to affect everyone differently, and are more appreciated the 2nd time onwards once you get a feel for them. 2c-e had me in uncontrollable stitches laughing and I couldn't stop, it was crazy fun. Also a lot of people seem to get sick on it so take it at home near a toilet the first time to see how your body accepts it. And also stay near a bed or something, during the peak I feel sweaty and just need to lay down as there is a weird, vacant head buzz that I can't really explain, just needed to stare at the trippy morphing patterns and shadows til I could stop laughing for at least 10 seconds and regain myself
2c-i was a bit different, way lighter on visuals but had a similar 'schitzophrenia' type of mental effect that reminds me of LSD a bit, lights also seemed more dazzling, but it gave me a killer headache afterwards.
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puffNfresh
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Thanks for all feedback. Still haven't tried it yet. I have lined up a friend to do it with... But won't be for a few weeks yet.