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2cd - 180mg - Insanity!

funkee

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This isn't my own trip report, but of a close friend of mine.

Also available on at http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=36703

My friend, T, contacted me at work about going to his house after work for a party and I happily accepted. At around 8 o'clock PM I ingested 180 mg of 2CD. My friend T and I had done 2CD once prior to this occasion. We had done 80 mg and it had provided us with quite a fun time. We had mild hallucination (the curtains moved, walls breathed, trees grew) and spent two hours in his room talking about our lives. This experience was very different from that one.

I hadn't eaten much prior to taking the 2CD. I had a hotdog about an hour before. T pilled up the substance and I swallowed it, then everyone went into the bathroom to smoke pot. I myself don't smoke anymore, but I sat on the bathroom floor to be social. After about 15 minutes I could not take sitting there anymore. The patterns on the walls began moving and I felt as if the smoke was choking me. I quickly returned to T's room and collapsed on the couch. I wasn't expecting the 2CD to hit so quickly (which my friends and I now attribute to the fact that I had not eaten much before hand) and to be so strong. I tried to breathe and calm down, but nothing was helping. I had taking 2CI many times prior to this and acid twice, but I've never had a bad trip. But this was the making of a bad trip. I closed my eyes in an effort to escape very intense hallucinations. The doors in T's room were warping in shape, growing, and shrinking. The furniture was moving on its own and I felt that dimensions of the entire room were not constant. The mental effects were worse than the hallucinations. I felt horribly confused. It was so bad that I remember myself swearing off of all drugs (something that did not stick with me).

When I closed my eyes I expected to find a blackness, which would allow me to recompose myself. Instead I found fractals in my head: beautiful designs of red and green spiraling around. Though they were beautiful, they were not what I needed at the time. Then a face emerged from the center of the designs and screamed, which forced me to open my eyes. My friend T rushed out of the bathroom and said something to me, which I could not understand. He then shut the lights off and put a movie on his computer. He watched the movie for a moment then ran back into the bathroom saying something about how I would enjoy this. The movie opened up with a display of colors, very similar to the fractals I was seeing in my head. The entire room changed colors with the screen and I felt as if I was going insane. I don't know how long this went on. T barged out of the bathroom a few moments later and asked if I was okay and my response to him was 'I'm fucking dying'. I felt so confused I could barely grasp reality.

Eventually everyone finished smoking and exited the bathroom to find me dying on the couch. After watching the movie for a few minutes, everyone decided to go out for cigarettes. I managed to get to my feet, but felt an awful pain in my legs. I remembered this pain from my prior 2CD and 2CI experiences. For some reason if you remain seated for a long period of time an then get up while on these two chemicals, you experience a horrible pain in your legs. I don't know why.

I managed to make it to T's balcony after encountering his sliding window door, which messed with my mind. We stood on T's balcony and smoked cigarettes, but I was in no mood to do this. I felt like my legs were going to give way at any second and I was going to collapse. My friends T and Y tried to talk to me, but I could not respond to a word they said. I could understand what they were saying, but I couldn't gather my thoughts and express them in a manner I deemed worthy. Then hallucinations began to get to me. I saw what was perhaps the most beautiful thing in my life that night. The sky was a very dark blue and there were a strip of orange clouds hanging in the horizon (which made no sense because it looked like the sun was setting, but this was at 9, the sun had set a long time ago). I stared at the stars as they began to move over my head. They flew back and forth and eventually began encircling the orange clouds. Then a whirl of orange clouds and light blue stars formed in the sky. It was spectacular.

Then my friend Y tried to speak to me. I looked over at him and noticed that the spiral of stars and clouds were spinning around his head. I tried to express to T and Y what I was seeing, but it was no use. Then I looked at Y and his head began changing shape. This was something I just could not take so we retreated indoors.

We returned to T's room and watched cartoons on his computer for awhile. I could not grasp a word of what was going on. The cartoons made no sense to me whatsoever. The pictures were constantly morphing. Eventually we decided to leave T's house and go to the beach. At this point my trip became tolerable. We left at 10:30. I was amazed to find out that everything that had just happened to me took place in less than three hours. It has seemed like an entire day had passed. The end of the trip was very mild and pleasant. I had slight hallucinations, but the confusion was gone. Instead I was left with an empty head. Not an extra thought entered my head except for what I was doing. It was a nice way to end a crazy experience.
 
That was a ridiculously large dose, and then on top of that add lack of food in the stomach... recipe for disaster.
 
Yeah, 40mgs was enough for me. ..The perfect dose. Beyond that, I think the compound would be too stimulating.
 
Well really, although 180mg is high there is in Pihkal:
(with 150 mg) A truly remarkable psychedelic, one which could compare favorably with 2C-B. There are intense colors, and I feel that more would be too much.

I think the most i've taken was around 80mg. I'd still go for 100mg though, i find 30-40mg too weak for me, 50-80mg is more like it, but, i may try 100mg sometime.
 
Has your friend taken 2C-E? I'd love to hear how 2C-D at a high dosage compares to 2C-E. I've only taken high dosages of 2C-E, but I could see a smaller amount (like less than 10mg) being similar to the pleasant 30mg experience I had with 2C-D the last time. Interesting to compare the similarities between the two, as they are so close molecularly.
 
Good read, thanks for posting.

I could have easily gotten five good doses out of that amount shoving it up my ass though. =D

Seriously folks, for those of you who haven't tried it rectally yet, be careful if you do. It's a completely different ballgame than taking it orally. I'm guessing it's at least three times more potent by this route.

-gp
 
yaesutom said:
Well really, although 180mg is high there is in Pihkal:


I think the most i've taken was around 80mg. I'd still go for 100mg though, i find 30-40mg too weak for me, 50-80mg is more like it, but, i may try 100mg sometime.

This is exactly how I am when it comes to 2C-D, I believe that the true maybe 'breakthrough' level is somewhere above 100mgs. The highest I have gone is 80mg, but I did not find it any more compelling than my 50mg dose.

I don't think 180mg is too extreme, I don't think one would be able to distinguish the effects between 150mg and 180mg very well. One, for the simple fact that it proved difficult for me to find anything better with 30mg more (when I tried 80mg). And the dose to reach the 'next level' seems to increase by 50mg at least for me.

Just my thoughts

Much Love!
 
Juggalotus said:
This is exactly how I am when it comes to 2C-D, I believe that the true maybe 'breakthrough' level is somewhere above 100mgs. The highest I have gone is 80mg, but I did not find it any more compelling than my 50mg dose.

I don't think 180mg is too extreme, I don't think one would be able to distinguish the effects between 150mg and 180mg very well. One, for the simple fact that it proved difficult for me to find anything better with 30mg more (when I tried 80mg). And the dose to reach the 'next level' seems to increase by 50mg at least for me.

Just my thoughts

Much Love!

If you don't have anything against plugging, try it with 2cd. I'm telling you, it's a completley different drug.

You mention about getting to the next level, well this is a quick way to do it without using much material. I can't give an exact equivalent, but my max oral dose so far has been 70mg. I did 32mg rectally a few weekends ago (my second time plugging it) and I will never take it orally again. The 32mg rectally blew away my 70mg oral expereince like it was a threshold experience. It was still very short acting, but the depth was not at all unlike 2ce when it was peaking.

I'm guessing it's at least 3x as potent rectally, so I would assume my last experience would be similar to 90+ mg orally. I have never expereinced 2cd this way and it really freaked me out at first. There was a massive time dilation where the intensity kept building and I didn't think it was ever going to stop peaking for a while. Of course in reality, this was only 15-20mins.

Anway, personally I consider oral use of 2cd a waste anymore. My next experience will be via plugging again, probably at the same dose (32mg) to see if I get a repeat of last time or not. My first time plugging it was at 22mg.
 
I think this has convinced me to try 'plugging' 2C-D. Personally, I find it fairly strong orally. 40mg will get me to a plus-three. But it is a weak drug still when compared to the other 2Cs I really like, and I'd love to conserve on the amount used. I assume this does not burn too bad? Or does it?
 
I have no problems with plugging, my fiance' does however, so it is hard to be on the same level if we are using 2 different methods of administration.

I would like to try this method being I only have about 300mg left :( . My other half doesn't really like the thought of putting 'drugs' up there.

One day I WILL try it this way, as I normally administer all (most) of my opiates in this manner to avoid queezy tummy (she isn't exactly aware of this ;) ).
 
I've read and reread this report a few times, each time coming back and finding I still don't know what to say in order to capture my exact thoughts on this concisely. I've never taken 2CD, I'd not honestly ever planned to, yet I find this report rather eye opening, and somewhat confirming of my original decision - it's not for me.

Thankyou for this addition however :)
 
Oh MGS, there's no other way to go with this. Especially if you are trying to conserve a limited supply.

The dose response curve is steep though. Doing 22mg rectally was intense, but 32mg was a completely different experience. At least for me. The peak was short which is expected for 2cd, but there was an extreme time dilation and it was very similar to my 2ce experiences during the peak.

If 40mg orally does a good job for you, try 14-16mg plugged and see how you like it. I just plugged the capsule itself and didn't notice any uncomfortable burning or anything like that. If 14-16mg doesn't do it for you, bump it up next time, but I tell you what, this is the route to use if you are trying to conserve your stash.

-gp

Oh yeah, if you decide to give it a try, let me know how it goes. At 32mg, everything was just flowing like liquid for me during the peak and it kind of scared me that 2cd could really take me as far as it did. The depth of the experience was incredible.

Personally I'm going to give it a try again at 32mg one of these weekends. I got a new scale and I want to make sure my 32mg was correct and I get a similar experience. If so, I have no plan to go any higher with it after the second time at this level. I don't see the point. At least short-term. If I need something more than that, then I'll use a different drug. =D

I'm really starting to fall love in love with 2cd and it's becoming one of my favorites. I just wish I had more of it. However, this is one way to stretch it out. I haven't tried 2cc yet though, so I'm interested to work with it some perhaps starting this fall. I will be using it rectally as well for the simple fact of the increased potency. Other than that and 2cp, I've sampled most/all of the other commonly available 2c's, and 2cd is really nice. At the upper experience levels, there's nothing like it.
 
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Ok, so just to verify with you pluggers – are you plugging the actual gelcap or just inserting a solution with a baby syringe or something? Didn’t’ realize you could count on a gelcap to dissolve up there..
 
santadog said:
Ok, so just to verify with you pluggers – are you plugging the actual gelcap or just inserting a solution with a baby syringe or something? Didn’t’ realize you could count on a gelcap to dissolve up there..

Every time (so far) that I've done DPT, I've plugged it and I always made a solution and administered it via and oral syringe.

However, the last two time I've plugged something, it was 2cd. I decided to just try the capsule. I just shoved the capsule completely intact and it did a wondeful job. Trust me, it will dissolve. Using a bit a lubricant helps, but make sure it's water-based (something like KY Jelly) and don't use anything greasy like vaseline. That would more than likely interfere with absorption.

I'm guessing that using a solution would probably absorb a bit quicker since the drug is already in solution and there's no capsule that has to melt, but I had no problems using an intact gelcap either. It seemed to work just fine.

The jury's up in the air as far as I'm concerned to determine if one method is better than the other. I will probably try the solution method again at some point in time, but just using the capsule is so much more simple. I've read other threads where people removed one half of the capsule to make sure the drug would 'come out', etc but it's not needed in my opinion. Both of my 2cd experiences in this manner were with a completely intact whole capsule and it hit FAST and HARD. I myself wondered if part of the geltain capsule would block absorption of a small amount of the material and I guess it's possible, but it seemed to work fine for me.

Either way seems to work fine, having to dissolve the compound and load it into an oral syringe is just a bit more time consuming than using the capsule in my opinion.

Perhaps others will have other opinions...
 
^^^ This is the best route as far as I am concerned, with the oral syringe. I have administered many opiates in this manner with great success. Much quicker!!
 
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