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2C-T7 Sensitivity and Toxicity

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LF24

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I recently acquired some 2C-T7, and after reading about the deaths and hospitalizations that occurred on it, I wanted to be extra careful. I started at 10mg, no noticeable mental/visual effects, slight nausea. At 35mg, some visuals, nausea but no vomiting. At 55mg, nausea+vomiting near the beginning, moderate/decent visuals, but nothing like what I've read about in others' trip reports. (All doses oral and several weeks apart) It's from a reliable source, so I figure I'm just insensitive to the chemical, and this isn't because it's cut with something.

I'm worried about going higher than 55mg. Does anyone know if being insensitive to the psychedelic effects would also mean I'm insensitive to the toxic effects too, or would it be as toxic for me as it would be for someone who is more sensitive to the other effects?
 
hi LF24,

welcome to bluelight. your first post will be my first time modding it up. i am super excited for both of us.

because 2C-T7 is a "psychedelic" drug, this thread belongs in the Psychedelic Drugs forum. also, I bet they have a 2C-T7 "mega thread" you might want to check out.

so,

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(PD mods, not sure what you do and do not want sent your way. and how. i will be learning. let me know if you have any suggestions.)
 
Well I would try another 2c to see if tolerance is the issue...

If you don't have a similar tolerance to say, 2c-t-2, then I would think the t-7 you got was cut/impure.

Have you ever tried LSD or another psych? If so, do you usually require higher doses than most people?
 
This sounds really suspect to me. If you haven't been doing psychs regularly, you should be getting a more pronounced experience than what you described. Yes, it is possible you have some kind of superhuman tolerance to 2C-T-7 but I think it is more likely that you have a degraded, impure, mislabeled, or otherwise "incorrect" product. 2C-T-7 is pretty difficult to come by these days, my inclination is to believe it is degraded in some way over a long period of time or that it is cut / something else.

You need to get ahold of another 2C - 2C-E will be easier to find than 2C-T-2. Give it a shot and see how it goes. You can't draw a 1 to 1 comparison between the two, but it should give you an idea of what this family is supposed to be like.
 
You could try plugging it.

I'm of the mind that it's impure. Did you acquire from a street dealer?

55mg should have given you some out of this world visuals and earth-shattering revelations. I'm suspect.
 
Arh, 2ct7 isn´t that super rare, imo.

Anyways, I have heard of people before who had naturally really high tolerance for phenethylamines, and who needed super high doses compared to other people. You might be one of those.

try giving a normal dose of the material you have to some one you know ,who uses psychedelics, and you can establish if it´s the product you have that´s at fault.

Your question about toxicity, I don´t think that any one can answer, as I don´t even think it was ever established how t7 caused the deaths that it did. But take notice that, as far as I know, all the deaths came with insufflation as the ROA.
 
Fagott said:
Arh, 2ct7 isn´t that super rare, imo.
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For me at least it is impossible to find compared to 2C-I,C,E,P,D,T-2...

The fact that it is explicitly scheduled moves it from the realm of easy to find yet shady grey market vendors to another level, one where you need connections beyond a computer and a credit card.
 
ive noticed that i have a natural tolerance to phenthylamines, but not to their toxic side effects. everyones differnt but thats my personal experience. i suspect it may be because i was prescribed adderal and concerta when i was young. i need a higher dose to get equal psychedellic effects off of phens. now tryptamines is a differnt story.
 
"Have you ever tried LSD or another psych? If so, do you usually require higher doses than most people? "
I've tried shrooms and several 4-ho/4-aco tryptamine RCs, and had normal reactions.

"I'm of the mind that it's impure. Did you acquire from a street dealer?"
No, I ordered it online from a reputable vendor. 9.something SoS rating, the other 3 RC's I ordered from them were fine. Others that received 2C-T7 from them said they got the expected results.

I think I can get some 2C-I soon, I'll try it and see if I have a high tolerance to that too.

Thank you all for your help.
 
2c-t-7 can be one of the most difficult 2c-x to dose. Its past has proven that so i wouldnt go as far to say what you have is impure or anything else. I got some from a reputable vendor once and after 35mg only producing very mild effects i thought something maybe wrong with the product but then i weigh out 5-10mg for insufflation because i thought another ROA would tell me more and sure enough the LITTLE bit i did snort proved 100% effective. I couldnt even snort the whole 5-10mg i wieghed. Thats just my experience. Erowid has one the the largest dose range for this compound compared to other 2c-x's also btw. Its a stellar compound though. It not part of the magical half dozen for nothing.
 
JBrandon said:
For me at least it is impossible to find compared to 2C-I,C,E,P,D,T-2...

The fact that it is explicitly scheduled moves it from the realm of easy to find yet shady grey market vendors to another level, one where you need connections beyond a computer and a credit card.
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Keep in mind not everyone lives in the US, and that if you live in say, Canada, it's actually quite easy to find vendors for this stuff.
 
Tried 2C-I (20mg), 2 hours ago on an empty stomach, barely any visuals. Same batch worked fine for a friend, so it isn't cut with something, it's just me--I guess I'm just very naturally tolerant to phenethylamines.

I'll try snorting a very small amount--thanks for the tip, Inzo.
 
IamMe90 said:
Keep in mind not everyone lives in the US, and that if you live in say, Canada, it's actually quite easy to find vendors for this stuff.
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Ha ha ha, precisely.

Why do Americans always think that the whole world revolves around them?

LOL I say.
 
Actually, he was right, I do live in the US. There's a Canadian vendor that ships it here.
 
Say you got a few possibilities, one is that you are insensitive to all the effects and you have just been underdosing, another possibility is that you are only partially insensitive to it namely to the psychedelic effects but not the nausea and other side-effects.
Because 2C-T-X compounds are fickle / erratic / more unpredictable than other 2C-X compounds I would personally make sure the second possibility is not disregarded, and either try again at the same dose of 55 mg or just leave it at that. 2C-T-7 has been unreliable for me in terms of dosing and proportions of effects, though I have certainly been able to trip off it.
What I am saying is: don't push it. Just stay at this dose and see if there are any different sides to it another time, also take care to notice the side-effects and how they warn you not to proceed further at some point.
I cannot tell you how many shots it's worth giving after this, at BL we do not tell other people what to do as a rule. On the one hand 2C-T-7 is IMO worth checking out carefully, but reactions vary immensely and pursuit should be abandoned in time rather than too late.

Trying other 2C-X compounds just to check general tolerance won't do you any good. You'd need quite a bit of experience so venture an educated guess that all phenethylamines act weak in you, it is possible that you are sensitive to one of them but not another. Of course, you can try other 2C-X compounds for the sake of trying them, that is certainly not against my recommendation.

It would help if you had friends who had tried the same batch, to see if there at least are other people who get more accurate results from it. But if there aren't any, then that's just that.
 
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