2c-t-7 (30mg Ins&Eat) - Second time - "Scarry things eating my soul, dont know why!?"

[badbiki]

2c-t-7 (30mg Ins&Eat) - Second time - "Scarry things eating my soul, dont know why!?"

A quick bit of background to start with i guess... Over the past 12 months i've tried (in order) 2c-i, 5meo-dmt, 2c-c, 2c-e, 4ho-det, 2c-b and now 2c-t-7.. I've eaten doses of up to 24mg 2c-e and 40mg 2c-b before without any problems and will go more next time. I do somewhat consider myself a seasoned psychonut now as my dosage level for most 2c's has increased about 1.5x to get the same effects..

My previous 2c-t-7 experiance was with 20mg and was quite impressive, but no where near as impressive as a 30mg dose! There was a massive difference in effects between 20 and 30 mg for me. I've also had two other friends I'll call A and B who have tripped with both 20 and 30mg with me also. Both times i reported massive visuals well before them which indicates that 2c-t-7 is very sensetive with me.

Quick dosage break down w/ time
-1hrs - 12 nurofen plus halfs (~150mg codine)
+0hrs - ~3mg snorted
+1hrs - ~27mg eaten

Here we go! Another Trip Tuesday!

-1hrs -=-
So the plan was to begin with snort the 2c-t-7 in small lines until A and I felt like we were on the right dosage (maximum 30mg).. So in preperation for this we both chowed down some codine to overcome the nastie 2c burn (OUCH!).. i found this very effective the week previous with 2c-b so decided to do it again..
This trip is going to be in my living room again, fairly large room with high cellings, tv and stereo.. The music for tonight is Armin Van Buuren, A state of trance 144->149...

+0hrs -=-
So friend A and myself were ready to t7 trip! we only had one 20mg dose here with us, but friend B was on the way with two further 20mg doses to bring us both up to 30mg in total. So before B got here we decided to start without him and rack up some t7 on the table. I cut up and eyeball divided the 20mg dose into half's then into 3 lines each.. (~3mg/line 10mg/ea)
Up the nose it went and on came the normal 2c nose burn... Not that bad with all the codine, but you cold definatley feel that it was ripping up my nose something cronic! 2c-t-7 also seems to be very very powdery and light.. Straight to the back of the throat alot of it went.. made me cough a bit..
Few minutes later the head and body feeling came on, without much visuals at all.. 3mg... duh.. The feeling was so nastie tho that we both decided to stop and wait for B to arrive with the rest so that we could eat it all up!

+20mins -=-
On a 20mg oral dose i never spewed or felt like spewing.. But this 3mg snorted dose just made me throw up... Ouchies.. I'm now worried i wont be able to eat the rest. B has now arrived and is ready to trip with us! So we cap up the remaining t7 and prepare to trip!. Friend B is tripping on 2c-b instead, trying snorting it for the first time!... nice

+1hrs -=-
Ok! I've finally mustered up the guts, which were previously mustered all over the kitchen sink.. haha.. Time to eat that ~27mg cap! YummiE!

+1.5hrs -=- +
The t7 effects seems to be building now, very slowly but i can notice more and more visuals and head feeling.. The initial snorted dose had worn all considerably and now the oral dose is coming on..

+2hrs -=- ++
No longer are my walls plain or my celling one colour... WoWah! visuals.. Not like 2ce with splotches of colour, or 2cb with shimmering colours or 2ci with colour shifts... But Visuals everywhere... Entire surfaces are one pure visual... But i'm still able to somewhat phase out of the visuals and concentrate on objects...

+2.5hrs -=- ++
Nangs... What would a trip be like without nangs? Hehe, Well for a quick background.. I use to do a lot of nangs.. and as you all know, when doing nangs occasionaly you drop full nangs into the empty nangs. No matter how well you check this is always the case. On a big enough sample size i found the "rate of nangness" to be aprox 1:160... For every 160 nangs consumed, atleast one full nang is thrown in!
I have a big box of nangs which i recently counted at 1625 which contained 10 fulls nangs. 2 of which were stollen in a fit of nang hording whilst counting them. Almost lost 6 nangs until the culprit admitted to the nang rage and returnd the full nangs from his socks.. Very funny.. haha!
So whats the point to this story? Well.. There is a box of 1625 nangs with 8 full nangs in the middle of the room... We can all barley see infront of ourselfs becuase of the visuals and its a race... Race to find the full nangs.. Whoever finds them gets to have them!
The visuals were now getting so intense, seeing the little ends of the nangs was almost impossible! finding full ones or distiguishing between full/empty ones was damn right difficult!
Friend A found 5 and friend B found 3.. leaving me with exactly none.. damnit! But what a game it was finding them.. Next trip tuesday i'll be doing the same again, putting a full box of 10 in there!

+3hrs -=- +++
There is no mistaking it.. I'm now fully consumed! Wild fractal patterns of blue and orange dominate the scenery!.. But thats not just all.. On previous trips thats all there has been, shapes and patterns... Except for one 2ce trip (my first, and only ++++) where i had dreams/memories appear around my pen as i was writting in my journel.. wow!... I'm now begining to see things..
They go beyond patterns and shapes... People and objects... I'm sitting down on my bean bag looking at A on the couch, when i see another person sitting next to time, he gets up using his hand on the arm rest and walks out into the kitchen and disappears... This was truely amazing!
Its like i've seen a memory of one of my friends getting up and walking away!... But thinds are only getting wilder.. with every minute!

+4hrs -=- +++
Now things are getting freaky.. very very very freaky!... I'm really starting to hallucinate now, or.. I'm in some kind of dream state whilst still awake? And i'm fully visualising what i'm thinking/dreaming... And what i'm dreaming/thinking is very very scarry... From the corners of my eye's these alien/people/monter scarry things are jumping out and attacking me! attacking my soul!!! Its like i'm in a scarry cartoon with things jumping out at me from all sides!.. Like i'm watching a scarry cartoon about 10cm away from a massive tv screen, unable to see anything else!..

"Guys! there are scarry things in my head! AH!"

"What scarring things? there is nothing scarry here"

"Scarry things attacking me.. and i dont know why"

I'm also getting somewhat disassociated with my body, like i'm living in my head somewhere.. There are also wild auditory hallucinations going on,saying wild and scarry things... I'm passing the room fruiting out somewhat massivley.. Thinking everything is spiriling towards death, kaos or destruction.. Its not like i'm just tripping with my mind, i'm now tripping with my life and if i trip out i'm going to kark it!...
I'm getting quite unstable at walking and i'm mumbling all this gibberish... I'm at a ++++ on freak out now! if there was a button i could press to end it all and become normal, i would... I definatley wouldn't be pressing the self administer button!

+5hrs -=- +++
I've now somewhat calmed down and enjoying the visuals and the psychodelicness of the t7 trip! Its now like i have several different minds inside my head... thinking on different tangents about random idea's and concepts...
Now being able to enjoy the visuals, I'm able to imagine and visualise sunlight coming thru the lace style curtins. The shapes and patterns and being displayed in a orange/goldern mist infront of them. Absolutley wild!
Alien space ships and crazy objects are still flying around my vision coming out of nowhere.. But i'm no longer freaking out... But one thing i am doing is spewing... alot... for no reason! This must be the 4th time for tonight already! OUCH!...

+7hrs -=- ++
Visuals still fairly strong but now fading away leaving a nice cartoon like afterglow.... But one big problem, i'm unable to drink anything.. and i can feel a head ache coming on like i havn't had enough to drink!... OUCH!

+10-14hrs -=- +
Still have some effects lingering around.. Massive head ache and unable to eat or drink... Sleep is impossible... This trip has really drained me! Sit in the shower for an hr or so trying to drink down some gingerale... This does remove the head ache...

Next night (still no sleep from night before)
With eye's closes, still notice big blotches of blue coming across my vision... Unable to sleep very well, must have layed there awake for 5+ hrs of the night...

After Notes...

2c-t-7... What can i say? This is THE most visual 2c that i've ever tried! The hallucinations/visulisations of memories/thoughts was absolutley amazing! That point could be considered a ++++ as far as tripping goes, but i didn't feel the all enlightenment of 2c-e so it's just a very very consumed +++... The visual activity at most points was so wild, that if you were standing 5m infront of me.. I could not see your face!

Its PURE visuals, visulisations and for me, dissociative. hallucinations... Compared to A and B, 2c-t-7 is very very potent to me. I must be super sensitive to it!

In order of visuals from weak to wild i now have, 2c-c, 2c-i, 2c-b, 4ho-det,2c-e then for the wildest.. 2c-t-7!...

0.1mg scales... ~$xxxx
empty gel caps... ~$0.17
Having cartoon vision and scarry deamon/monster/alien things jumping out of the corners of your eye's.. Priceless!

Will i every do it again? Not at 30mg... too scared.. maybe 25mg next time... Wow...

 

[Neo1]

Hi Badbiki. Wow, sounds fun & scary at the same time. I am waiting for a good day to try my first proper T7 experience, and from your report, I think I'll be starting around 18mg oral, because this week, my soul doesn't want to be eaten. It's far too chewy.

Do you think the visuals were so intense that if you were outdoors that you might be in danger of say, getting mowed down 'cos you couldn't see the cars in the street?

So far, the furthest I've gone is the heroic level of 5mg, which I have to say, is fantastic for housework

 

[Blowmonkey]

Re: 2c-t-7 (30mg Ins&Eat) - Second time - "Scarry things eating my soul, dont know why!?&qu

I do somewhat consider myself a seasoned psychonut now as my dosage level for most 2c's has increased about 1.5x to get the same effects

I haven't read your whole report because of this line, I stopped reading right there.. i'd like to comment on it.

Please DO NOT consider yourself a "seasoned psychonaut" because you have a tolerance to psychedelics, tolerance is a sign of excessive usage. If you need to do more drugs to get to the same level, you seriously should consider having a break. Weird thing is, after I've used a drug once or twice, I usually get more out of less, you ought to be able to do the same, if you just take a break every now and then. Learn to use psychedelic drugs sparingly, you'll enjoy them much more, I can almost guarantee.

 

[Juggalotus]

^^^ That is funny as shit!!!! I did the exact same thing and scrolled to the comments... I knew somebody would bust his balls over this statement.

I tend to be very spiritual with my experiences, so each and every one serves a purpose, not to just get "off" and party. I journey with my wife, in the comfort of my own house and also on the 10 acres I own behind my house. Mostly with just us two, but on one other occasion we had another close friend journey with us.

I don't think that alot of people really understand the power and influence that these journeys manifest.

I have had MANY experiences, but will never consider myself "seasoned". Just for the simple fact that, just when you think you have something figured out, it will grab you by the balls, and you will not be ready. I found this out first hand and in a rather difficult way.

Please -- Be careful, and always - Much love!!

 

[bluedolphin]

Re: 2c-t-7 (30mg Ins&Eat) - Second time - "Scarry things eating my soul, dont know wh

+2.5hrs -=- ++
I have a big box of nangs which i recently counted at 1625 which contained 10 fulls nangs. 2 of which were stollen in a fit of nang hording whilst counting them. Almost lost 6 nangs until the culprit admitted to the nang rage and returnd the full nangs from his socks.. Very funny.. haha!

LOL

 

[badbiki]

Hey ease up Seasoned.. meaning.. i've been tripping alot lately And with each other chemical, many many different dosage levels.. Not a hardcore 80+mg 2cp eater... And maybe thats what i was trying to demonstrate here? Eaten alot of different chemicals lately, then a 10mg increase over my last one and it took me to a whole new place! ekkkers....

I've gone down the whole, less is more latley with 2c-i and 2c-b... I find 10mg of either is an awesome little go out and have some fun kind of experiance. Higher dosages of either really isn't that fantastic anyway... My best ever 2c-e trip was with 16mg and best ever 2c-b with 8mg snorted. Less is more? *nods*

Outdoors could have been a mission with this one, as i was throwing up a lot! walking at times was quite difficult and the fact i couldn't see infront of myself! Would i see a car coming? or would i think i'm just imagining it? There were aliens space ships and scary monsters coming out of nowhere as it was, so roads and maybe other people? I'm not that gain...

As it was, it really felt like i was tripping with my life rather than a nice psychodelic 2c-e trip where its very introspective and pleasent... I really can understand now why some people have died from this drug before at higher dosages and/or full snorted doses..

 

[tranzystate]

I had a similar experience with T7 a few weeks ago. After having tried MDMA, MDA, MDEA, 2c-i, 5meo-dmt, 2c-e, 4ho-det, 2c-t-2, 2c-b and 2c-t-7 at 20mg and finding that it was quite tame I thought that I would double my dose and try 40mg. At the last minute I changed my mind and opted for 30mg instead, and boy am I glad that I did.

We were chilling at a mated house before leaving to go to a rave. Everybody but me was consuming methamphetamine and we all had MDMA to consume later at the event. Shortly before leaving I ate the 30 mg T7. We then drove around to a few other pre-parties and met other people also on their way to the event. When we were on our way to the event the car ride was making me feel quite ill. We had to pull over so that I could vomit. Then as we continued driving I began to feel sicker and I had a mild cold at the time which seemed to be intensified 100x by the T7. I felt that I was too sick to make it to the event to had to go back to the mates house. When I got there I went straight to the toilet and had a bad case of the runs. I then coughed up blood. My nose wouldn't stop running. Half an hour later when I eventually got off the toilet I told my friends to go to the event without me as I was too sick and would have to spend the night on the couch by myself. I just put on some music, got under a blanket and had some time to myself to enjoy the insane visuals. After a while I felt a bit dehydrated so I went to the kitchen and sculled a pint of water. I knew that it wasn't a good idea and a technicolour rainbow vomit was the immediate result. I saw colours that I never new existed. After about an hour or two most of the effects of the T7 subsided as did my sickness. I eventually made it to the rave, caught up with my friends, and munched down a couple of pills over the night.

All in all this was an amazing night. The sickness was a bit uncomfortable for I while but I had the most amazing journey whilst laying on the couch by myself. I have a couple more 30mg doses of T7 hidden away and I intend on saving them for special occasions, maybe once a year.

T7 is an amazing drug. I think what badbiki meant by the seasoned tripper comment was that he thought that he might be better prepared for the drug's effects compared to somebody who had never tried any psychedelics before. I think that is partially true as somebody who has never tried any psychedelics before would probably less equipped to handle 30mg of T7 than somebody who has spent years working their way up to it. It still means that you should never underestimate the power of any drug. My 20mg experience with T7 was quite lame. I had a deeper experience with 20mg of T2. 30mg of T7 however was like a completely different drug. I was completely consumed.

I just cannot explain how much crazier this drug is compared to any other drug I have ever tried. I am yet to try LSD, or any psychedelic amphetamines like DOM or DOB but their time will come. I was completely overwhelmed by visuals. I couldn't see the time on my phone and even if I could have I probably would have been incapable of interpreting it. Forget going out anywhere on this drug. I couldn't even make it across the living room with out tripping over the coffee table. You would be hopeless outside.

This is an experience that I would highly reccomend however people need to proceed with caution. If there is a drug that you cannot afford to underestimate it is this one. I would hate to think what would have happened had I eaten 40mg. 30mg is definitely the upper threshold for my acceptable dose.