psychoblast
Bluelighter
2ct7 & 2c-c -- not too experienced -- lasted longer than expected
There was a time, when it was legal, that I obtained 2ct7. This was the first time I did it. I'd read a warning that some people were very sensitive to the substance, so new users should start with a small dose. After considering various trip reports, I decided 12 mg would be a safe first trial. I figured the risk was that I would not feel much, but at least I would be responsible.
5pm: I orally ingested 12mg in a capsule (weighted with mg scale) on an empty stomach, smoked some bud, and hung out at home. After about 30 minutes, I noticed something different, but nothing really strong enough to put my finger on. I had a fuzziness to my head and a little tightness in my stomach, but nothing else.
7pm: I am not feeling much of anything, and from what I've read I do not expect any significant increase in effects during the rest of the trip. I'm maybe 1/2 +. At this point, I think of doing something more since I had this time set aside to trip. First, I consider railing a boost of 2ct7. But I've heard it is painful, and I know 2 of the deaths on erowid are reportedly due to that and, most of all, it appeared from what I read that 2ct7 insufflated lasts as long as taken orally, and I wanted to be down by midnight. So I decided not to do more 2ct7.
Then I thought of 2c-c. My experience is that it is fairly mild, some nice visuals at the 50mg range, and lasts only about 4-5 hours, a little less if insufflated. I'd railed it before and found it not to be too painful or bad tasting. From past experience, I found that railing it does not really result in that much stronger of a trip. I've railed 20mg and had a trip similar to taking 40mg orally. This seems different than some RCs where a tiny fraction of the oral dose will get you going strong if insufflated. For 2c-c it seems like for insufflating you would only half the dose you would otherwise be taking orally.
Anyway, given that I was already on 2ct7, I figured I should do a small amount -- so small it would probably have little effect if I did it by itself. I settled on 13 mg, weighed it out, but then only did 2/3 of it, or about 9mg. I just didn't feel like doing the rest and I thought I'd see what this combo did. I'm glad I didn't do the remaining 4mg.
7:30 Okay, there seems to be some synergy here. As an aside, it is possible the 2c-c did next to nothing this night and the following effects are just the normal 2ct7 effects that took 2 1/2 hours to really start up. Having never taken 2ct7 before, I don't know.
Anyway, I started getting strong OEVs, colors looking sparklier, patterns flowing and melting. My stomach was somewhat unsettled, but not too bad. I had some jitteriness, too. I did some weed and that kicked everything up a notch.
Here I got in a sensual frame of mind. Imagining sex seemed to give a pleasant buzzing feel in the appropriate places, and I spent some time exploring this aspect. I was reminded of 5-meo-dipt. I don't recall hearing 2ct7 described as a sensual drug, but I have heard 2c-c described that way, so maybe this is part of the synergy of the two. Anyway, my cat walked by at one point and brushed against me and its fur felt very good and soft, almost like it might feel if I was rolling or on 5-meo-dipt.
Well, for the next 5 hours I had these visuals, some mood lift, and a pleasant body buzz. Negatives were my stomach feeling a little fluttery and some restlessness and some jaw clenching. I would say these were less severe than on 5-meo-dipt.
I watched Moulin Rouge, which I've seen many times and find to be the most beautiful movie to watch when you are in certain less philosophical type trips. It definitely was better due to the substances I was on, though not as intense as watching it on shrooms because I was having lots of philosophical distractions about the nature of love, why I was not married, whether I could love any of the girls I know, etc. But anyway it was very good and I was not bored even on the scenes that I would think drag if sober. On the contrary, it seemed the slower, more haunting melodies had more impact on me than the chaotic, wild scenes and music. They were more piercing and moving. Even if they were sad, their beauty deeply affected me.
Around 9:30pm, I ate some food which tasted fine and went down relatively well. But a couple hours later, I had some stomach cramping that may have been due to this, but it sent away after awhile.
Around 12:30pm, I smoked some more bud and realized that I was tripping as strong as ever, not coming down. This was bad, since I wanted to be down by now. In fact, I could not fall asleep till closer to 3:30am with the help of large quantities of alcohol. Which means that apparently the 2c-c and 2ct7 stretched each other out. I mean, this was 10 1/2 hours after dropping the 2ct7 and 8 1/2 hours after dropping the 2c-c. The hardest part of getting to sleep was the jaw clenching.
Anyway, I had a very restless sleep for a few hours and the next morning I noticed at 8:30am my jaw still seemed to be clenching a little, though I felt mostly baseline (98%).
I was tired the next day, though I'd only had 4 1/2 hours sleep so that could be part of the problem.
Given my inexperience with 2ct7, I cannot compare how the 2c-c modified a normal 2ct7 trip. I do think this combo has some potential for saving money. Rather than doing 30mg of 2ct7 or 50mg of 2c-c, you might be able to do 10mg of 2ct7, wait, then rail 10mg of 2c-c and get a ride similar in strength to either by itself. Of course, this assumes you have any 2ct7 now that it is no longer legal.
Overall, I would compare the trip somewhat to 2cb. There were times I felt a euphoria growing to the point things seemed near roll-like, but it never quite reached that point.
In conclusion, I decided to relate this trip mainly to advise others that this combo has been done and it did not cause me to implode or anything. But keep in mind the trip will last a long time, I think longer than either drug by itself.
One warning is that for about 20 minutes about 2/3 of the way through the night, I felt some aching in my right side. Some thoughts ran through my head like maybe this combo is causing kidney failure or something. Eventually the pain went away and I'm not sure now what it was.
Now play nice.
~psychoblast~
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There was a time, when it was legal, that I obtained 2ct7. This was the first time I did it. I'd read a warning that some people were very sensitive to the substance, so new users should start with a small dose. After considering various trip reports, I decided 12 mg would be a safe first trial. I figured the risk was that I would not feel much, but at least I would be responsible.
5pm: I orally ingested 12mg in a capsule (weighted with mg scale) on an empty stomach, smoked some bud, and hung out at home. After about 30 minutes, I noticed something different, but nothing really strong enough to put my finger on. I had a fuzziness to my head and a little tightness in my stomach, but nothing else.
7pm: I am not feeling much of anything, and from what I've read I do not expect any significant increase in effects during the rest of the trip. I'm maybe 1/2 +. At this point, I think of doing something more since I had this time set aside to trip. First, I consider railing a boost of 2ct7. But I've heard it is painful, and I know 2 of the deaths on erowid are reportedly due to that and, most of all, it appeared from what I read that 2ct7 insufflated lasts as long as taken orally, and I wanted to be down by midnight. So I decided not to do more 2ct7.
Then I thought of 2c-c. My experience is that it is fairly mild, some nice visuals at the 50mg range, and lasts only about 4-5 hours, a little less if insufflated. I'd railed it before and found it not to be too painful or bad tasting. From past experience, I found that railing it does not really result in that much stronger of a trip. I've railed 20mg and had a trip similar to taking 40mg orally. This seems different than some RCs where a tiny fraction of the oral dose will get you going strong if insufflated. For 2c-c it seems like for insufflating you would only half the dose you would otherwise be taking orally.
Anyway, given that I was already on 2ct7, I figured I should do a small amount -- so small it would probably have little effect if I did it by itself. I settled on 13 mg, weighed it out, but then only did 2/3 of it, or about 9mg. I just didn't feel like doing the rest and I thought I'd see what this combo did. I'm glad I didn't do the remaining 4mg.
7:30 Okay, there seems to be some synergy here. As an aside, it is possible the 2c-c did next to nothing this night and the following effects are just the normal 2ct7 effects that took 2 1/2 hours to really start up. Having never taken 2ct7 before, I don't know.
Anyway, I started getting strong OEVs, colors looking sparklier, patterns flowing and melting. My stomach was somewhat unsettled, but not too bad. I had some jitteriness, too. I did some weed and that kicked everything up a notch.
Here I got in a sensual frame of mind. Imagining sex seemed to give a pleasant buzzing feel in the appropriate places, and I spent some time exploring this aspect. I was reminded of 5-meo-dipt. I don't recall hearing 2ct7 described as a sensual drug, but I have heard 2c-c described that way, so maybe this is part of the synergy of the two. Anyway, my cat walked by at one point and brushed against me and its fur felt very good and soft, almost like it might feel if I was rolling or on 5-meo-dipt.
Well, for the next 5 hours I had these visuals, some mood lift, and a pleasant body buzz. Negatives were my stomach feeling a little fluttery and some restlessness and some jaw clenching. I would say these were less severe than on 5-meo-dipt.
I watched Moulin Rouge, which I've seen many times and find to be the most beautiful movie to watch when you are in certain less philosophical type trips. It definitely was better due to the substances I was on, though not as intense as watching it on shrooms because I was having lots of philosophical distractions about the nature of love, why I was not married, whether I could love any of the girls I know, etc. But anyway it was very good and I was not bored even on the scenes that I would think drag if sober. On the contrary, it seemed the slower, more haunting melodies had more impact on me than the chaotic, wild scenes and music. They were more piercing and moving. Even if they were sad, their beauty deeply affected me.
Around 9:30pm, I ate some food which tasted fine and went down relatively well. But a couple hours later, I had some stomach cramping that may have been due to this, but it sent away after awhile.
Around 12:30pm, I smoked some more bud and realized that I was tripping as strong as ever, not coming down. This was bad, since I wanted to be down by now. In fact, I could not fall asleep till closer to 3:30am with the help of large quantities of alcohol. Which means that apparently the 2c-c and 2ct7 stretched each other out. I mean, this was 10 1/2 hours after dropping the 2ct7 and 8 1/2 hours after dropping the 2c-c. The hardest part of getting to sleep was the jaw clenching.
Anyway, I had a very restless sleep for a few hours and the next morning I noticed at 8:30am my jaw still seemed to be clenching a little, though I felt mostly baseline (98%).
I was tired the next day, though I'd only had 4 1/2 hours sleep so that could be part of the problem.
Given my inexperience with 2ct7, I cannot compare how the 2c-c modified a normal 2ct7 trip. I do think this combo has some potential for saving money. Rather than doing 30mg of 2ct7 or 50mg of 2c-c, you might be able to do 10mg of 2ct7, wait, then rail 10mg of 2c-c and get a ride similar in strength to either by itself. Of course, this assumes you have any 2ct7 now that it is no longer legal.
Overall, I would compare the trip somewhat to 2cb. There were times I felt a euphoria growing to the point things seemed near roll-like, but it never quite reached that point.
In conclusion, I decided to relate this trip mainly to advise others that this combo has been done and it did not cause me to implode or anything. But keep in mind the trip will last a long time, I think longer than either drug by itself.
One warning is that for about 20 minutes about 2/3 of the way through the night, I felt some aching in my right side. Some thoughts ran through my head like maybe this combo is causing kidney failure or something. Eventually the pain went away and I'm not sure now what it was.
Now play nice.
~psychoblast~
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