Morninggloryseed
Bluelight Crew
March 4, 2003
Eighteen milligrams of 2C-T-4
9:00 AM: I Wake up and take eighteen milligrams of 2C-T-4. I am both nervous and excited. This is the first time in two years I am trying a new material. And I am choosing to take a fairly high dosage of, for the most part, an unknown compound. At least when I first tried 2C-T-7 back in August of 2000, there were at least a few-dozen reports scattered about the web. There are only two on 2C-T-4 that I know of outside of PIHKAL. I pray before swallowing the capsule and send myself warm and positive vibes.
9:23 AM: I think I feel warmth in the chest. I am also taking a hit of pot so it could be that.
9:28 AM: Definitely feeling it. Warmth thorough the body spreading. Hands a bit unsteady. No visual or mental yet beyond what the hit of pot I took is doing but I do feel the drug in my body.
9:34 AM: Not much more to report. Definite alert but difficult to define. It’s active but slow in developing. But so far no seeable negative. No nausea. No unpleasant body load.
9:37 AM: Mentally I am starting to feel it strongly. There is some time dilation allowing me to look into current activities (listening to music, typing on this keyboard) deeper. This feels different than other psychedelics. Well it feels different than 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. This seems to come on in a ‘different way’ though I am at a loss as to how describe how it is different. Just a very different feeling, Interesting. I’d call this a definite plus one.
9:43 AM: This feels like a psychedelic without the fireworks so far. I feel an ‘opened mind’; I definitely feel it in my body, as there is that warm ‘phenethylamine’ feeling but no visual. Not too many mental games. Just pure opened-minded thinking is what I experience. I really like this so far. It is getting very difficult to type though. Spell-check is going to be needed for this one.
9:52 AM: Much of the same. Seems to slowly be growing in strength. I have a feeling this is going to be a long day.
10:00 AM: Still not much more to report. I am very relaxed. I almost feel sleepy. But I am still only at plus-one and the nature of this drug is still undefined at this point. Again, no discomfort though.
10:11 AM: I’m so relaxed I’m starting to fall asleep I think. I wonder if 2C-T-4 is like 2C-T-7 in that some need to take heroic dosages to feel it. I know one person who took 60 mg of 2C-T-7 and felt nothing. Maybe I am like that with 2C-T-4. I’ll stay at this level though; I’m not going to take anymore. It could also be that it takes a long time to develop and I’m just not used to it. Wait, it has only been just over an hour since I took it. The other 2C-Ts I’ve tried take several hours to hit. I’m sure this one is no different. I just realized. I am experiencing enormous and extreme time dilation. I feel like I’ve been here for hours. Patience my son.
11:54 AM: I seemed to have almost fallen asleep. I went into a trance-like state where I had very little awareness of the outside world. I awoke suddenly feeling very sick and made it to the bathroom just in time to vomit what looked like last night’s dinner. Now I feel better and am tripping fairly hard. Not sure I’d call this a plus-three. Not sure how to classify it; I am just tripping and its not mild but not exactly overwhelmingly intense at this point. There is some visual brightening, but not like that of 2C-T-2 or 2C-T-7. Some trailing on moving objects. No real body-load that I feel, which is a good thing. My hands however are very unsteady and almost trembling. No emotional enhancement or insight, but I am not particularly looking for that sort of thing.
12:18 PM: Very dreamy and trance-like, I keep almost falling asleep. But I’m not sleepy. It is almost dissociative in nature. I keep opening my eyes and forgetting where I am or that I am even tripping. This is a strange material,
1:32 PM: Just got out of a nice shower. Had some nice visuals. Now there is some of the color enhancement of 2C-T-7 and 2C-T-2, but without those substances’ crazy breathing, morphing, and flowing of all objects in view. I observed the wonderful site of seeing all objects painted in beautiful pastel colors. Nice trails too. Some nystagmus. Sitting in the tub was nice, but my mind seems empty. I can’t seem to go anywhere with this trip. Potency-wise, I’d say this is a full plus three, but one very different than a plus three on other psychedelics, There is so little going on to say why it is a full plus-three. But I know I’m tripping hardcore and could not drive or interact with people in the outside world.
3:27 PM: Went back in to a trance-like state for the longest time. My mind was everywhere but nowhere in particular. I truly feel dissociated from my body on this drug, well at least at this dosage. I will be eager to explore much lower dosages. I’ve never felt this way on a psychedelic and it seems so different than the reports of 2C-T-4 in PIHKAL.
Epilogue:
That was as far as my journal went. I spent the rest of the day listening to music and eventually interacted with my roommates when they came home. It was an interesting trip, and the drug turned out to be very different that I expected. It was well worth my time to explore. 2C-T-4 was very easy on my body compared to 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. I experienced little stomach discomfort. I suddenly woke up from this dream-like state around three hours into the experience and needed to puke. After I emptied my guts, I was fine the rest of the night. It was a very mental psychedelic as opposed to being sensual/sensory. One of those deep-thinking trips, with little fireworks to it.
While the intensity of eighteen milligrams wasn't too much to deal with, I went into a sort of dissociated state and felt too out of my body for insights or for the possibility of gaining much from the experience. I'll wager the 'sweet spot' for me is between eight and twelve milligrams but I'm sure dosages will vary from person to person. If I were to ever take 2C-T-4 again, I'd probably go for ten milligrams. One final comment is that the trip didn't last as long as the literature suggested it would. It wasn't seventeen-hour trip I was expecting. There was noticeable drop around the sixth hour. From the eight hour on until I went to sleep I was plus-one at best. Only some residual at the twelve-hour point.
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Eighteen milligrams of 2C-T-4
9:00 AM: I Wake up and take eighteen milligrams of 2C-T-4. I am both nervous and excited. This is the first time in two years I am trying a new material. And I am choosing to take a fairly high dosage of, for the most part, an unknown compound. At least when I first tried 2C-T-7 back in August of 2000, there were at least a few-dozen reports scattered about the web. There are only two on 2C-T-4 that I know of outside of PIHKAL. I pray before swallowing the capsule and send myself warm and positive vibes.
9:23 AM: I think I feel warmth in the chest. I am also taking a hit of pot so it could be that.
9:28 AM: Definitely feeling it. Warmth thorough the body spreading. Hands a bit unsteady. No visual or mental yet beyond what the hit of pot I took is doing but I do feel the drug in my body.
9:34 AM: Not much more to report. Definite alert but difficult to define. It’s active but slow in developing. But so far no seeable negative. No nausea. No unpleasant body load.
9:37 AM: Mentally I am starting to feel it strongly. There is some time dilation allowing me to look into current activities (listening to music, typing on this keyboard) deeper. This feels different than other psychedelics. Well it feels different than 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. This seems to come on in a ‘different way’ though I am at a loss as to how describe how it is different. Just a very different feeling, Interesting. I’d call this a definite plus one.
9:43 AM: This feels like a psychedelic without the fireworks so far. I feel an ‘opened mind’; I definitely feel it in my body, as there is that warm ‘phenethylamine’ feeling but no visual. Not too many mental games. Just pure opened-minded thinking is what I experience. I really like this so far. It is getting very difficult to type though. Spell-check is going to be needed for this one.
9:52 AM: Much of the same. Seems to slowly be growing in strength. I have a feeling this is going to be a long day.
10:00 AM: Still not much more to report. I am very relaxed. I almost feel sleepy. But I am still only at plus-one and the nature of this drug is still undefined at this point. Again, no discomfort though.
10:11 AM: I’m so relaxed I’m starting to fall asleep I think. I wonder if 2C-T-4 is like 2C-T-7 in that some need to take heroic dosages to feel it. I know one person who took 60 mg of 2C-T-7 and felt nothing. Maybe I am like that with 2C-T-4. I’ll stay at this level though; I’m not going to take anymore. It could also be that it takes a long time to develop and I’m just not used to it. Wait, it has only been just over an hour since I took it. The other 2C-Ts I’ve tried take several hours to hit. I’m sure this one is no different. I just realized. I am experiencing enormous and extreme time dilation. I feel like I’ve been here for hours. Patience my son.
11:54 AM: I seemed to have almost fallen asleep. I went into a trance-like state where I had very little awareness of the outside world. I awoke suddenly feeling very sick and made it to the bathroom just in time to vomit what looked like last night’s dinner. Now I feel better and am tripping fairly hard. Not sure I’d call this a plus-three. Not sure how to classify it; I am just tripping and its not mild but not exactly overwhelmingly intense at this point. There is some visual brightening, but not like that of 2C-T-2 or 2C-T-7. Some trailing on moving objects. No real body-load that I feel, which is a good thing. My hands however are very unsteady and almost trembling. No emotional enhancement or insight, but I am not particularly looking for that sort of thing.
12:18 PM: Very dreamy and trance-like, I keep almost falling asleep. But I’m not sleepy. It is almost dissociative in nature. I keep opening my eyes and forgetting where I am or that I am even tripping. This is a strange material,
1:32 PM: Just got out of a nice shower. Had some nice visuals. Now there is some of the color enhancement of 2C-T-7 and 2C-T-2, but without those substances’ crazy breathing, morphing, and flowing of all objects in view. I observed the wonderful site of seeing all objects painted in beautiful pastel colors. Nice trails too. Some nystagmus. Sitting in the tub was nice, but my mind seems empty. I can’t seem to go anywhere with this trip. Potency-wise, I’d say this is a full plus three, but one very different than a plus three on other psychedelics, There is so little going on to say why it is a full plus-three. But I know I’m tripping hardcore and could not drive or interact with people in the outside world.
3:27 PM: Went back in to a trance-like state for the longest time. My mind was everywhere but nowhere in particular. I truly feel dissociated from my body on this drug, well at least at this dosage. I will be eager to explore much lower dosages. I’ve never felt this way on a psychedelic and it seems so different than the reports of 2C-T-4 in PIHKAL.
Epilogue:
That was as far as my journal went. I spent the rest of the day listening to music and eventually interacted with my roommates when they came home. It was an interesting trip, and the drug turned out to be very different that I expected. It was well worth my time to explore. 2C-T-4 was very easy on my body compared to 2C-T-2 and 2C-T-7. I experienced little stomach discomfort. I suddenly woke up from this dream-like state around three hours into the experience and needed to puke. After I emptied my guts, I was fine the rest of the night. It was a very mental psychedelic as opposed to being sensual/sensory. One of those deep-thinking trips, with little fireworks to it.
While the intensity of eighteen milligrams wasn't too much to deal with, I went into a sort of dissociated state and felt too out of my body for insights or for the possibility of gaining much from the experience. I'll wager the 'sweet spot' for me is between eight and twelve milligrams but I'm sure dosages will vary from person to person. If I were to ever take 2C-T-4 again, I'd probably go for ten milligrams. One final comment is that the trip didn't last as long as the literature suggested it would. It wasn't seventeen-hour trip I was expecting. There was noticeable drop around the sixth hour. From the eight hour on until I went to sleep I was plus-one at best. Only some residual at the twelve-hour point.
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